Valve responds to gamers complaints of "don't turn off console"

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Because it seems like these forums are only trying to spread misinformation without bothering to look up facts. And btw it only shows up when auto-saving, if you were to go into menu's and press save it appears as "system.

In fact if you were to read the thread here as posted previously in another thread it would show that Valve hasn't always given us the ability to change FOV i.e. CS:S so unless CS:S was a console port then I see no reason for this overexageration.

That doesn't satisfy many people still. There are even people in that thread who are still nitpicking over it, that think that was simply an excuse to get people off of their case. People don't care that the game runs flawlessly on PC, and feels like a PC game instead of a console port. What they care about are little things, like not being able to change the FOV, even though the FOV is already fine. And the wording it has when saving. People don't care about the games themselves anymore.

Honestly, it just seems like people are trying to pick holes into a serious GOTY contender. Iantheone

That doesn't satisfy many people still. There are even people in that thread who are still nitpicking over it, that think that was simply an excuse to get people off of their case. People don't care that the game runs flawlessly on PC, and feels like a PC game instead of a console port. What they care about are little things, like not being able to change the FOV, even though the FOV is already fine. And the wording it has when saving. People don't care about the games themselves anymore.

Deathykins

Gamers are just reallllly whiny sometimes. Here's what it sounds like to me;

"This PC game... Has the word console, on the saving screen!?

... This... THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! We, the loyal PC gamers, have been betrayed by those sellouts at Valve!

My brothers! For too long have we had to deal with the word console on the saving screen! The rest of the game is simply unplayable as long as that damned saving screen has that putrid word smeared on it! Our money was wasted! I have never been so disgusted! This game is a joke!

Quickly, to the Metacritic user scores! This is a crime against humanity... Give this piece of CRAP a 0/10, my fellow PC gamers! We will not stand for such rubbish!"

Derp

Yeah...

[QUOTE="Deathykins"]

That doesn't satisfy many people still. There are even people in that thread who are still nitpicking over it, that think that was simply an excuse to get people off of their case. People don't care that the game runs flawlessly on PC, and feels like a PC game instead of a console port. What they care about are little things, like not being able to change the FOV, even though the FOV is already fine. And the wording it has when saving. People don't care about the games themselves anymore.

Godofnerdyness

Gamers are just reallllly whiny sometimes.

"This PC game... Has the word console, on the saving screen!?

... This... THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! We, the loyal PC gamers, have been betrayed by those sellouts at Valve!

My brothers! For too long have we had to deal with the word console on the saving screen! The rest of the game is simply unplayable as long as that damned saving screen has that putrid word smeared on it! Our money was wasted! I have never been so disgusted! This game is a joke!

Quickly, to the Metacritic user scores! This is a crime against humanity... Give this piece of CRAP a 0/10, my fellow PC gamers! We will not stand for such rubbish!"

Yeah...

only pc fanboys should care for stuff like this :P

i could care less even if it says "pls turn off your 360"

the game is amazing. aparently, a lot of pc gamers dont care about having fun anymore.

maybe it's just this particular forum :P

It's easy for strings like this to get mixed up during development. On the console versions we can fail cert for not having a string warning the user not to shut off the console. We can also fail cert if the string says "Please don't turn your PC off...". So as such the strings get changed to be appropriate on the console (usually during the phase where we are heavily testing consoles and working to pass cert late in development). In this case it looks like a bug that the string was also changed on the PC version.

That really has no bearing on which platform is the "lead" platform, all of the platforms are important to us and it's certainly not true that the game was built for consoles and then ported to PC. Like most of our past titles PC in fact tends to be the most used platform internally during much of development, though consoles get plenty of love too since we want to ensure quality across the board.

Valve Rep

well said, Valve. Now, if the haters will please exit to the right.

only pc fanboys should care for stuff like this :P

i could care less even if it says "pls turn off your 360"

the game is amazing. aparently, a lot of pc gamers dont care about having fun anymore.

maybe it's just this particular forum :P

Batang_X990

no, youre right...it is PC gamers. And frankly, it is getting to the point where I am ashamed to call myself a "PC Gamer"...I feel like I should just refer to myself as a "gamer". I used to be able to say "PC Gamer" with pride...not so much any more.

Seems like in the past few months all rational thinking, forgiveness, understanding, and compassion has left these boards and been replaced with hair-trigger rage response.

"RAH RAH RAH this game cost 59.99!"

"Rabble rabble rabble this game has taken a step forward and improved enjoyment while requiring less effort, I DEEM THEE CONSOLIZED!"

"SAY WHAAAAAAAAAA?! A trivial fault ("dont turn off your console") has been allowed into our PC game! TAINT! I sense a demonic console taint in my beloved PC Game! Rabble rabble!"

Its getting out of hand folks. My advice is to grab a beer, get a massage, go for a run, lift some weights, work hard at your job, go to ****..and come home and unwind with a good game, and overlook whatever minor, trivial, unimportant, noninfluential faults it might have.

After all, my brothers and sisters of PC gaming....nothing is perfect, but we've been blessed with dozens, if not hundreds, of exclusive and multiplatform titles that have come close. Quit biting the hand that feeds you. And if something rubs you the wrong way, well, go play something else instead of campaigning against it.

I completely forgot about this (played it for 5 to 6 hours today for the first time) and never even noticed it :P. Amazing game!

Maybe people are pissed over the dissapearance of Episode Three and use Portal 2 to vent their frustration ?

What difference does it makewhy the error occured? What I want to know is why they didnt fix it. Theirs no way they didnt catch this before release and common sense tells me getting rid of a message is easier than fixing a bug.

My guess is they left it in as a joke, especially with the whole Crysisstart messageoutcry.

What difference does it makewhy the error occured? What I want to know is why they didnt fix it. Theirs no way they didnt catch this before release and common sense tells me getting rid of a message is easier than fixing a bug.

My guess is they left it in as a joke, especially with the whole Crysisstart messageoutcry.

Cranler

If it's a joke... they're probably laughing their ass off

Gee nerds will moan about anything. Valve is the best thing that happened to PC gaming and honestly if all some people have to complain about is the word 'console' appearing in their PC game they had better crawl out of their hole and start to live a little!

Yeah it's a really silly thing to complain about, but it's ironic nonetheless ;),

I love Valve, but it seems people are forgiving when Valve pulls something like this. But if it were any another developer, it would be an all out war. ;)

These petty complaints about Portal 2 are so desperate it's hilarious.

Makes me rather ashamed to be a PC gamer. So many self-entitled morons out there looking to pick at the most inconsequential things.

Honestly it seems to me like they try to cover it up and lock threads about it rather havign an actual reason for it. Excuses FTW.dakan45

Honestly it seems to me like they try to cover it up and lock threads about it rather havign an actual reason for it. Excuses FTW.dakan45

These petty complaints about Portal 2 are so desperate it's hilarious.

Makes me rather ashamed to be a PC gamer. So many self-entitled morons out there looking to pick at the most inconsequential things.

broken_bass_bin

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Honestly it seems to me like they try to cover it up and lock threads about it rather havign an actual reason for it. Excuses FTW.skrat_01

The fact people complain about THIS in particular is absolutely sad. Entitled gamers demand perfection and then whine kicking and screaming when their impossible-to-reach expectations are never met. It is truly baffling. People consistently use the Hats from TF2 as the quintessential example of Valve turning into just like every other company out there, being "evil incarnate", and puppy kickers. The truth of the matter is, using Hats is an absolutely terrible example as it is NOTHING like a majority of the DLC currently out there, and it actually paints the company in a positive light.

1. Actual "DLC" or downloads that add gameplay content have been free dating back to Team Fortress Classic.

2. The DLC currently being sold adds nothing but cosmetic changes that do not influence or affect other player's gameplay or enjoyment much at all.

3. The big one: Nearly EVERY item that can be purchased can eventually be acquired through NORMAL gaming methods absolutely FREE.

If people actually opened their eyes and looked at the evidence, we'd probably have a lot less whiners and idiots running out there. I sorely doubt it though. I'm starting to agree with the console crowd, PC Gamers really are the whiniest bunches of elitists out there. No wonder so many companies are turning their back on us. It's absolutely shameful.

I have no issue with a stringtable problem, I just wish I could up the FOV a bit. I get a little motion sick from this game, it's too zoomed in.

The fact people complain about THIS in particular is absolutely sad. Entitled gamers demand perfection and then whine kicking and screaming when their impossible-to-reach expectations are never met. It is truly baffling. People consistently use the Hats from TF2 as the quintessential example of Valve turning into just like every other company out there, being "evil incarnate", and puppy kickers. The truth of the matter is, using Hats is an absolutely terrible example as it is NOTHING like a majority of the DLC currently out there, and it actually paints the company in a positive light.

1. Actual "DLC" or downloads that add gameplay content have been free dating back to Team Fortress Classic.

2. The DLC currently being sold adds nothing but cosmetic changes that do not influence or affect other player's gameplay or enjoyment much at all.

3. The big one: Nearly EVERY item that can be purchased can eventually be acquired through NORMAL gaming methods absolutely FREE.

If people actually opened their eyes and looked at the evidence, we'd probably have a lot less whiners and idiots running out there. I sorely doubt it though. I'm starting to agree with the console crowd, PC Gamers really are the whiniest bunches of elitists out there. No wonder so many companies are turning their back on us. It's absolutely shameful.

MythPro1

+1

I agree with every word.

I know it was an honest mistake so I wouldn't say anything bad about valve because of it. The part I think is funny though, is that they could have avoided all this and just replaced the word "console" with "system" which works for every platform. Oh well.

The part I think is funny though, is that they could have avoided all this and just replaced the word "console" with "system" which works for every platform. Oh well.

mkaliaz

I don't think they are allowed to do that on the console, the message has to use the word "console" if it doesn't the game fails certification. I personally don't consider Valve "PC developers" they haven't been PC developers for years. But I do find it interesting how people seem to give Valve a blank cheque for this kind of crap, if this had been any other developer the majority of PC gamers would have been screaming "console port, there is your proof a console save game screen", but nope not if it is Valve. If Valve do it then it was just a "simple, honest mistake".

In nearly every way Portal 2 is another Crysis 2 with limited options (compared to the previous Portal), console save screens. weak graphics and low quality textures and to top it all off Valve have done Day 1 DLC, hell even Crytek didn't try that. Yet a lot of PC gamers criticised the hell out of Crytek for Crysis 2 but Valve ohhhhhhhh no "thou shall not criticise Valve whatsoever".

valve sellout just like crytek :PJohn_Read

Exactly

When Crysis 2 did this people were up in arms calling it a console port, however when valve does it everyone defends them saying its not a big deal, valve is the only one keeping pc gaming alive yada yada. Valve is the most overrated game developer that ever existed imo, I only like steam from them

[QUOTE="John_Read"]valve sellout just like crytek :PNanoMan88

Exactly

When Crysis 2 did this people were up in arms calling it a console port, however when valve does it everyone defends them saying its not a big deal, valve is the only one keeping pc gaming alive yada yada. Valve is the most overrated game developer that ever existed imo, I only like steam from them

If the loading screen said "This is a console port. It was intended for consoles and we just put it on the PC just to make an extra buck. Haha, you bought into our scam" and the game was still good I still wouldn't care. A good game is a good game is a good game, no matter what it was originally made for.