Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines?

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#1 shert
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So I've heard good things about this game and I've been looking for a good rpg, so I just had a few questions before I buy.

Has it aged well? I realise it was only released in like 2004 but is the game STILL a blast?

How long will it last? I don't really mind a short RPG but a nice long length would be nice.

Would I like it? I've liked a lot of different kinds of RPGs, alpha protocol, fallout series, elders scrolls series and dragon age just to name a few.

Any feedback would be great.

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#2 Elann2008
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It has aged well. I'm a graphics-junkie and I still find it to be a really good looking "older" game. If you liked Alpha Protocol, and the other games you listed, you'll most likely enjoy Vampire TMB. It's one of my favorite games of all time.
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#3 kozzy1234
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Its a great game that has aged fine imo. THe graphics will nto blow you away but everything else is top notch.

If you had fun with Alpha Protocol I have a feeling youd like this :P

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#4 dakan45
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Its not a good game. Filled with bugs, inbalanced gameplay and crappy endings. Visually it looks ok, gameplay is a mess no matter what era you play it, it feels downright long. Length is about 15-20 hours. Its like alpha protocol, but guns suck even more and the difficultiy is much higher. Also setting up your skills and leveling up is harder to figure out. What-skil-to-upgade is harder to figure out than alpha protocol and healing items are hard to find also lockpicking is 100% based on skill and no minigames, abilities use mana that can only be restored by drinking blood.
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#5 JackBurton
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Top 10 rpgs of all-time, imo.

use of the unofficial patch is a must!

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#6 deactivated-61898903867d0
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Its a great game, a lot of replayability, graphics look good for a 2004 game but youll definately want to download the unofficial patches to fix a lot of bugs.

Find the official and unofficial patches here - http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php

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#7 zhivago_x
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One of the best there is. Grab the unofficial patch and after your first playthrough star a new game with a Malkavian.

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#8 SkyWard20
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Yeah, it has aged well.

I remember reviewers saying that the game didn't do the source engine justice in the sense that Half-life 2, a contemoporary release, looked much better than Bloodlines at that time. I am inclined to agree, but I never felt the game looked bad for its time.

I think I should also mention that it has some pretty choppy animations.

It plays well. It lets you deal with quests in a lot of ways, which I say is its biggest strength. There are like 5 ways to resolve situations only through socializing: dementia, domination, intimidation, seduction, persuasion. Some of them are clan-specific ( basically races for vampires ).

The downside, to me, was that the combat had its problems, though I found using disciplines ( which pass as spells for vampires ), stealth kills, and slashing with melee weapons fun. The gunplay is generally thought of as pretty bad though, with the guns doing little damage against enemies, especially vampires ( the gun selection being pretty limited at that ). They are also not very accurate ( not sure if the accuracy is improved by up-ing your firearms skill ), but I guess it's still a viable option, at least with celerity tossed in the mix ( slow motion ).

Still a good game though/8,5.

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#9 biggest_loser
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Damn I wouldn't mind play this myself! Maybe when I finish some of my other games! :(

*Glares at Dragon Age: Awakening* :evil:

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#10 SkyWard20
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]Its not a good game. Filled with bugs, inbalanced gameplay and crappy endings. Visually it looks ok, gameplay is a mess no matter what era you play it, it feels downright long. Length is about 15-20 hours. Its like alpha protocol, but guns suck even more and the difficultiy is much higher. Also setting up your skills and leveling up is harder to figure out. What-skil-to-upgade is harder to figure out than alpha protocol and healing items are hard to find also lockpicking is 100% based on skill and no minigames, abilities use mana that can only be restored by drinking blood.

Man, I played the game when I was 13. The game was never hard to figure out.
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What-skil-to-upgade is harder to figure out than alpha protocol and healing items are hard to find also lockpicking is 100% based on skill and no minigames, abilities use mana that can only be restored by drinking blood.dakan45
If this is one of the things you are basing your "Its not a good game." comment on, than I wouldn't trust your opinion. I am not going to say you are wrong as everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I will say that this quoted segment in your post is hardly a negative against the game, but more so a personal issue YOU had with the game that many people (like myself and seemingly the majority of other people posting in this thread) enjoyed and worth noting since your entire post plays out like one big piece of hate trying to pass as fact.
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#12 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Its amazing, just make sure to get the unofficial patches to the game.
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#13 mkaliaz
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Its not a good game. Filled with bugs, inbalanced gameplay and crappy endings.dakan45

LOL, somehow I knew you would post something like this. :D

I keep wanting to pick it up but the cheapskate in me keeps waiting for a sale that I never seem to find. Guess I will keep waiting.

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#14 Dante2710
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As some have said get the unofficial patch. I think the weakest part of the game is the gunplay, but i love getting upclose and personal so i didnt mind. Might be annoying when you have to deal with hunters though.
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#15 Inconsistancy
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Pretty sure I loved that game... It deserves a really high budget, pc exclusive, remake, imo.. 'cause in concept it was amazing, the execution isn't the most amazing thing though...
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#16 StrawberryHill
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Bloodlines is one of my favorite rpgs ever. There are a few glitches, but patches fix most of them. The only glitches I ran into were enemies getting stuck on environmental objects. Very unique, dark setting for a game. I played it as a very strong melee character a few years ago, but I'd like to play it again with more of a stealth build.

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#17 xWoW_Rougex
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The vampire concept for a wrpg is really cool in my opinion. I can't say the game is GREAT but it's close to being great at least. Definitely worth playing though.

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Amazing game.
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#19 mep69
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never really liked it. But when i did attempt to complete it the game went corrupt when ever i tried to kill a certain boss in a cave. So i never did complete it.
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#20 Barbariser
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It's pretty much weak combat and incredible everything else.

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#21 ShimmerMan
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It's aged pretty well. Probably still the only RPG out there with characters that have beliveable personalities of their own.

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#22 teardropmina
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well...concering PC gaming, "age well" has never been a valid point of discussion for me; newer games are flashier for sure but rarely deliver better/deeper gameplay compared to older games.

to me, VtMB is better than The Witcher, DA:O, and Fallout 3...age is never the issue.

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#23 shert
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GEEZUS!

So I decided to buy the game after all the positive feedback and I just got to the part at the haunted ocean hotel (or whatever its called) and its frightening the hell out of me, it's very atmospheric and those random visions of a woman running down a hallway or the guy with the axe are frightening.

Anyone else find this part to be scary or is it just me?

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#24 LookAnDrolL
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^ Yeah I remember that part lol, just wait for the abandoned hospital part.... creepy
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#25 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Make sure you're using the community patch.
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#26 snared04
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Haven't played it in years, but it was great when it was released. I probably made my way through it 3-4 times, and enjoyed it pretty much every time. The different weapon types could have been better balanced, and there was certainly a collection of annoying bugs, but I wouldn't put it anywhere near how screwed up Gothic 3 or some of those other bug fests have been.

It's worth a go if you enjoy this game type in general. It's not as sandbox-ish as it could have been, considering how big the world feels. But that could also be a personality thing. I like every corridor, alley, etc. that was bothered to be in the game to actually hold something, and not all games deliver that, few in fact. This game being one of those. However, it definitely shines as a good genre mix, and as a game unto itself. Give it a go, I'm sure Steam has it for 5-10 bucks these days.

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#27 kozzy1234
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Its not a good game. Filled with bugs, inbalanced gameplay and crappy endings. Visually it looks ok, gameplay is a mess no matter what era you play it, it feels downright long. Length is about 15-20 hours. Its like alpha protocol, but guns suck even more and the difficultiy is much higher. Also setting up your skills and leveling up is harder to figure out. What-skil-to-upgade is harder to figure out than alpha protocol and healing items are hard to find also lockpicking is 100% based on skill and no minigames, abilities use mana that can only be restored by drinking blood.dakan45

Had a feeling you would join this thread Dakan :P

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#28 IzzyMaiden
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Oh yes, VTMB has definitely aged well. What I find most amazing about it is the dialogue, which is a big part of the game. I would say it's long enough not to be considered short, most of your time will be spent in Santa Monica, the first area, exclusively, before you're able to reach the other areas, but that's not to say there's a small amount of things to be done in any one area. This game always makes my 'keep on my computer' list, along with Oblivion and COC: DCotE. It has great replay value, I've played through several times without getting bored. There are multiple endings depending on what choices you make, and there are also unofficial patches out which can increase difficulty and immersion, add in new features, fix bugs, and you can even add some new content with mods if you find the base game has lost its edge.

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#29 kimkim01
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Its a great game that has aged fine imo. THe graphics will nto blow you away but everything else is top notch.

If you had fun with Alpha Protocol I have a feeling youd like this :P

kozzy1234

QFT, I actually went so far as to say that AP was the VTMB of this generation - both were extremely buggy but provided a great roleplaying experience that was better than any other RPG game.

VTMB also already has a bundle of patches to fix most of its issues, which is a great plus.

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#30 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Its a great game that has aged fine imo. THe graphics will nto blow you away but everything else is top notch.

If you had fun with Alpha Protocol I have a feeling youd like this :P

kimkim01

QFT, I actually went so far as to say that AP was the VTMB of this generation - both were extremely buggy but provided a great roleplaying experience that was better than any other RPG game.

VTMB also already has a bundle of patches to fix most of its issues, which is a great plus.

I agree with everything - except AP wasn't buggy for me. I got lucky I guess.
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#31 dakan45
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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] Man, I played the game when I was 13. The game was never hard to figure out.

In comparison with alpha protocol in terms of skills and what to set it was harder to figure out. Just saying that because people compare it alot with alpha protocol, but its clearly more complex than alpha protocol. [QUOTE="gamer620"] If this is one of the things you are basing your "Its not a good game." comment on, than I wouldn't trust your opinion. I am not going to say you are wrong as everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I will say that this quoted segment in your post is hardly a negative against the game, but more so a personal issue YOU had with the game that many people (like myself and seemingly the majority of other people posting in this thread) enjoyed and worth noting since your entire post plays out like one big piece of hate trying to pass as fact.

It is a fact, reviews ratings, the game is unfinished in so many ways, so many bugs, inbalanced as hell. So yeah "it is not a good game" Pretty much the definition of it i am trying to pass as a fact. Therefore FACT, its not a good game. For the record, the part you quoted has notthing to do with basing wherever its a good game, i was just comparing it to alpha protocol since people say that if you liked that, you will like this game but its diffirent than alpha protocol in the ways i presented. Now if thats too much for you. Have fun praising a game and not informing anyone about how the game really is...its the same freaking reason i ended up torturing myself playing this crap hoping it will get better later but only got worse.
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#32 JackBurton
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It is a fact, reviews ratings, [...] So yeah "it is not a good game" Pretty much the definition of it i am trying to pass as a fact. Therefore FACT, its not a good game. dakan45

GameSpot User Score: 8.7 (7,743 votes)

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#33 dakan45
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i said reviews ratings not user ratings.
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#34 ShimmerMan
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if you did not enjoy the game, then you just didn't "get it". The combat is not great, but the draw of the game is the very well written dialogue. impressive voice acting and interesting NP characters. Playing Bloodlines is definitely a lot more like participating in a motion book or movie than playing a game, Which is what was good about it.

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#35 190586385885857957282413308806
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i said reviews ratings not user ratings.dakan45
Well the topic poster is asking for our opinion and not the opinion of some random paid fake journalist so I think the graph stands.
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#36 SkyWard20
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80 metacritic score = generally favourable reviews. the game was literally unfinishable when it was first released, that it got that score at all is somewhat surprising.

though this guy probably gets off on the attention so you people should probably just ignore him.

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#37 190586385885857957282413308806
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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

80 metacritic score = generally favourable reviews. the game was literally unfinishable when it was first released, that it got that score at all is somewhat surprising.

though this guy probably gets off on the attention so you people should probably just ignore him.

actually i find his views very useful. if he doesn't like a game, i know i'm going to enjoy it and vice versa. I use him as sort of a Bizarro Smerlus
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#38 kimkim01
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[QUOTE="kimkim01"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Its a great game that has aged fine imo. THe graphics will nto blow you away but everything else is top notch.

If you had fun with Alpha Protocol I have a feeling youd like this :P

Elann2008

QFT, I actually went so far as to say that AP was the VTMB of this generation - both were extremely buggy but provided a great roleplaying experience that was better than any other RPG game.

VTMB also already has a bundle of patches to fix most of its issues, which is a great plus.

I agree with everything - except AP wasn't buggy for me. I got lucky I guess.

I'm jealous, I mostly ran into the missing enemies bug whenever I reloaded a checkpoint (very sad when I went with shotguns haha). And the hacking minigame - thank god for EMP grenades.

On VTMB to the topic creator - if you play it and love it (I'm sure you will) you will owe yourself at least one playthrough as a Malkavian vampire. Trust me.

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#39 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]i said reviews ratings not user ratings.smerlus
Well the topic poster is asking for our opinion and not the opinion of some random paid fake journalist so I think the graph stands.

Official reviews can be useful but not in this regard.. The review was made in like 2003 or 2004... It is not accurate now when you look at the fact tha the unofficial patches of the games, fix ALOT.

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#40 mep69
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[QUOTE="shert"]

GEEZUS!

So I decided to buy the game after all the positive feedback and I just got to the part at the haunted ocean hotel (or whatever its called) and its frightening the hell out of me, it's very atmospheric and those random visions of a woman running down a hallway or the guy with the axe are frightening.

Anyone else find this part to be scary or is it just me?

yer i remember that, anything with ghosts creeps me out, plus i was 14 at the time.