vanguard bugfest

I think it will have a lot of bugs since the release was rushed. But Sony updates a lot so in about 2 months there wont be that many bugs. If you buy it now, you'll probably be paying more since it just recently released. I wouldnt buy it just now.DestroyerRox

Even if it were absolutely perfect, it wouldn't beat WoW. It's an old school mmorpg, that is designed around hardcore gamers....WoW is successful because it appeals to casual/panzy gamers.hecklemonkey

So casual gamers that have real lives and things to do other than fatten up in front of a game are panzies?  Good luck with life there, chief.

Been playing for a couple of days (just because I NEEDED something new to play). WOW brought real soloing to online games, and vangaurd must have missed that. Without the solo play this game is a real disapointment. And that besides all the bugs.LordOfMorning

[QUOTE="hecklemonkey"]Even if it were absolutely perfect, it wouldn't beat WoW. It's an old school mmorpg, that is designed around hardcore gamers....WoW is successful because it appeals to casual/panzy gamers.Johnny_Rock

So casual gamers that have real lives and things to do other than fatten up in front of a game are panzies?  Good luck with life there, chief.

  Casual gamers in the sense that do not like any challenge.. WoW in the end takes just as much time if not more for its linear improvement system at the end game.. All with less then 1/2 the difficulty reaching there, doing it, and no risks.. Thats basically what he is pointing out, I think.   I tend to agree if this is indeed what he/she ment.

  Honestly I just say give it time.  EQ2 and Eve Online are two MMOs that had very bumpy launchs but sense then has been refined through numerous patchs to games that alot of people think are the best interesting enough.

Even if it were absolutely perfect, it wouldn't beat WoW. It's an old school mmorpg, that is designed around hardcore gamers....WoW is successful because it appeals to casual/panzy gamers.hecklemonkey

[QUOTE="hecklemonkey"]Even if it were absolutely perfect, it wouldn't beat WoW. It's an old school mmorpg, that is designed around hardcore gamers....WoW is successful because it appeals to casual/panzy gamers.rsth

this is true, but vanguard is a broken mess...uv gotta be real hardcore to play this game hehe...cos u will fall thru the world, mobs will dissapear, quests are broken...etc etc...yea, strickly hardcore game
rsth

I got the game copy of Vanguard one day after launch ive been playing it since that and i have a warlock level 9 im not a hardcore player but i played it a lot i few in the world probably 2 or 3 times other than that i dint see any other bugs yet the world is huge a lot places to explore and i found the quests entreteining , really fun game and851130

[QUOTE="LordOfMorning"]Been playing for a couple of days (just because I NEEDED something new to play). WOW brought real soloing to online games, and vangaurd must have missed that. Without the solo play this game is a real disapointment. And that besides all the bugs.-wildflower-

In an interview, they said it group based, but WILL have solo capabilities! He really did say that.  And no, there is no more room for "group force". Every game that has done it since WOW fails.  Problem is people want both.  And they have been shown they can have it (ie WOW).  Have people want to group, thats ok.  Make the only option group, that not ok.  Besides you loving this game so much you feel the need to argue for it, there is no reason not to have both.  Not any good ones.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"][QUOTE="LordOfMorning"]Been playing for a couple of days (just because I NEEDED something new to play). WOW brought real soloing to online games, and vangaurd must have missed that. Without the solo play this game is a real disapointment. And that besides all the bugs.LordOfMorning

In an interview, they said it group based, but WILL have solo capabilities! He really did say that.  And no, there is no more room for "group force". Every game that has done it since WOW fails.  Problem is people want both.  And they have been shown they can have it (ie WOW).  Have people want to group, thats ok.  Make the only option group, that not ok.  Besides you loving this game so much you feel the need to argue for it, there is no reason not to have both.  Not any good ones.