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#1 gs_gear
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I need a video card with SM 3.0 support. Between a Geforce 7600 and a Radeon X1650, which one is better?

And I have an AGP 4X motherboard, so if the cards are AGP 8X, will they work?

Oh, and people who have one of these cards, can you tell me how they perform in recent games like Bioshock?

Thanks to anyone who replies.

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#2 kodex1717
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Go for a X1950PRO if you have the money and PSU to use one.
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#3 gs_gear
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Go for a X1950PRO if you have the money and PSU to use one.kodex1717
I would but they're too expensive, I mean compared to DX 10 cards or PCIE ones, at least where I live. They're like 200 euros.:( And I've seen on newegg.com a X1950 model at only $179.:| I wish we'd have something like newegg here in Europe.
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#4 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="kodex1717"]Go for a X1950PRO if you have the money and PSU to use one.gs_gear
I would but they're too expensive, I mean compared to DX 10 cards or PCIE ones, at least where I live. They're like 200 euros.:( And I've seen on newegg.com a X1950 model at only $179.:| I wish we'd have something like newegg here in Europe.

i know www.ebuyer.com is for uk but shipping might be less they have great prices, i think the 7600 is a bit better.
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#5 gs_gear
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[QUOTE="gs_gear"][QUOTE="kodex1717"]Go for a X1950PRO if you have the money and PSU to use one.yoyo462001
I would but they're too expensive, I mean compared to DX 10 cards or PCIE ones, at least where I live. They're like 200 euros.:( And I've seen on newegg.com a X1950 model at only $179.:| I wish we'd have something like newegg here in Europe.

i know www.ebuyer.com is for uk but shipping might be less they have great prices, i think the 7600 is a bit better.

So do they ship outside the UK?

I can choose at my local stores between an ASUS 7600 GS 256 MB and an ASUS X1650 PRO 256 MB. Do you think the 7600 GS would be better?

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#6 kodex1717
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I can choose at my local stores between an ASUS 7600 GS 256 MB and an ASUS X1650 PRO 256 MB. Do you think the 7600 GS would be better? gs_gear
I'd get the 7600GS, but both of those are out-dated cards.
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The pair, GF 7600 GS, and Radeon X1650 Pro, are both lower end Mid-Level cards, roughly equal to each other, not quite all the way to the bottom of the mid- level, but very close, and Bioshock is not going to treat them nicely at all.

Incidentally, Bioshock probably won't even TRY to start in less than 512 MBs of system memory. AND, while RDRAM is no longer in mass production, it was always expensive, which is part of why AMD got its initial leg up on the P4s, but there is plenty of RDRAM out there, brand new, but priced very dearly, same as it always was.

You really need a video card with a 256 bit memory system. See if you can swing a 7800 GS at least, or you really shouldn't be trying for a game so far outside your hardware budget. The very least to do is look for a factory overclocked 7600 GT. There is a world of difference between a lowly 7600 GS and a relatively speedy 7600 GT, and the OC model can almost get away with not having 256-bit memory.

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#8 Cracker__Jack
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I need a video card with SM 3.0 support. Between a Geforce 7600 and a Radeon X1650, which one is better?

And I have an AGP 4X motherboard, so if the cards are AGP 8X, will they work?

Oh, and people who have one of these cards, can you tell me how they perform in recent games like Bioshock?

Thanks to anyone who replies.

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AGP 4x? 7600? Your Motherboard is SEVERELY outdated for BioShock. I doubt bioshock will even run at 20 FPS on Low-Med. Insted spend money on a new PCI-express motherboard

If not Please elaborate on what you need.

How much $$ is your budget ?

Do you want to play DX10 games in the future?

What CPU are you using?

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#9 gs_gear
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[QUOTE="gs_gear"]

I need a video card with SM 3.0 support. Between a Geforce 7600 and a Radeon X1650, which one is better?

And I have an AGP 4X motherboard, so if the cards are AGP 8X, will they work?

Oh, and people who have one of these cards, can you tell me how they perform in recent games like Bioshock?

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Cracker__Jack

AGP 4x? 7600? Your Motherboard is SEVERELY outdated for BioShock. I doubt bioshock will even run at 20 FPS on Low-Med. Insted spend money on a new PCI-express motherboard

If not Please elaborate on what you need.

How much $$ is your budget ?

Do you want to play DX10 games in the future?

What CPU are you using?

Yeah I know it is but it was so damn expensive when I bought it.:x

I have a P4 at 2.4 GHz, 256 MB RDRAM, and a Geforce 4 Ti 128 MB:( so I just wanted to upgrade to a DX 9 card to last me at least till next year when hopefully I'll get a new PC with a DX 10 card.

The problem is there isn't much I can upgrade on my PC because the motherboard has AGP and the RAM is RDRAM type which isn't made anymore.

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#10 kodex1717
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You'll need to get your memory to at least 1 GB to play any game with any card decently. If I were you I'd save up around $700 - $800 so you can build a rig that will actually play games.
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#11 gs_gear
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You'll need to get your memory to at least 1 GB to play any game with any card decently. If I were you I'd save up around $700 - $800 so you can build a rig that will actually play games.kodex1717
I would but I can't find RDRAM memory.

Anyway, that's what I plan to do next year.

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#12 Cracker__Jack
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(sigh) Again, What is your BUDGET ?? $$
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#13 gs_gear
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(sigh) Again, What is your BUDGET ?? $$Cracker__Jack
Like 100 euros. And I would upgrade the memory if I could find RDRAM type. I don't want to spend more because I want to get a new PC next year.
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#14 kodex1717
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Ugh, RDRAM. If you only have 256MB of any type of RAM, it doesn't matter what card you have, it's going to be a horrible experience. Just getting a new motherboard with a GB of RAM would likely see better results even without a GPU. Save your money for next year.
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#15 Kiwi_1
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There is plenty of RDRAM available in the marketplace, new. It continues to carry the high price tags it started out with, is the only drawback. The extra cost is so much that it is cheaper to toss the old s423 hardware and move into the 21st century. A 256 MB system is so puny, and needs so much work to fix it, that a used replacement of an entire system based on a more economical RAM type is literally a cheaper route.

Many games out there will refuse to start when they fail to detect at least 512 MBs of RAM; so that right there will be a killer for an old and obsolete s423 P4.

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#16 modai119
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4x AGP slot mobos are almost ancient with the ISA slot mobos... If you plan on PC gaming ie. Crysis, Bioshock, WiC, etc.. YOU ABSOLUTELY need a new comp there is no other options...
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#17 wooz101
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Yeah, don't upgrade that would just be stupid.