Viet Nam is a jungle. It is not Europe. This makes for a very boring map. I was two tours in the Nam. Believe me. It will take a great imagination to come up with an interesting map with so little to work with.
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Viet Nam is a jungle. It is not Europe. This makes for a very boring map. I was two tours in the Nam. Believe me. It will take a great imagination to come up with an interesting map with so little to work with.
Malphal
context please?
Well technically speaking Vietnam is not a "jungle" it is a country that has a lot of jungle in it :P . I imagine the TC is talking about the next Call of Duty game which is rumoured to be set in Vietnam. This does not necessarily mean it will be all "jungle" though, just like the last COD wasn't all desert. I can't really comment myself I haven't bothered with a COD game since COD 4 and I am not about to start now. However I don't think they will limit themselves to jungle warfare for the entire game.
First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. millerlight89
From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to portect something theres has to be an attack of some kind on your country first.
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. warmaster670
From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to portect something theres has to be an attack of some kind on your country first.
Try not too take things personal. I was thanking a man for serving for our country, really nothing to try to get upset and try to correct me over.[QUOTE="millerlight89"]First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. warmaster670
From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to portect something theres has to be an attack of some kind on your country first.
Same observation, how exactly the war in vietnam protected the US nation? Where there any hostilities againe us to begin with? Oh well just the US army trying to police the world and the american people agreeing to it, like they are protecting their country, but what they really do is being mercenaries in wars that they are not theirs!Think what you want. I really do not care, lets not make a big deal out of me thanking a man for serving for our great country. If you have a problem you can PM me. Do NOT high jack the thread and make a big deal out of this.millerlight89You are right;) this is getting offtopic, but anyway i will always believe that from all the wars the US has been into, the vietnam war was a lost cause and a clear mistake it should not happen again!!! But on topic i played vietcong and it was a great game but with very blant and half life-ish linear boxy level design, judging by my experiance from cod waw i dont think vietnam would have made a good setting either, but then again i played boiling point which did took place in a jungle and it was done well as far as i can speak about the map. Maybe all hope is not lost yet, maybe a sandbox game with a jungle map will come out, but lets keep it away from linear fps!!
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. warmaster670
From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to portect something theres has to be an attack of some kind on your country first.
Well then I'll thank him for helping my family escape communism. Both my mother's and father's family both served in the military so they would have surely been executed.First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. millerlight89
I interpreted it that he was in vacation there:P
Anyway, I lol'd when I read your post. Sounds funny to me.
And on-topic, they could have more urban combat scenarios in the South, or even a completely separate campaign in Afghanistan or any other proxy war.
[QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. dakan45
From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to portect something theres has to be an attack of some kind on your country first.
Same observation, how exactly the war in vietnam protected the US nation? Where there any hostilities againe us to begin with? Oh well just the US army trying to police the world and the american people agreeing to it, like they are protecting their country, but what they really do is being mercenaries in wars that they are not theirs!and the hippie gods are satisfied...
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Think what you want. I really do not care, lets not make a big deal out of me thanking a man for serving for our great country. If you have a problem you can PM me. Do NOT high jack the thread and make a big deal out of this.dakan45You are right;) this is getting offtopic, but anyway i will always believe that from all the wars the US has been into, the vietnam war was a lost cause and a clear mistake it should not happen again!!! But on topic i played vietcong and it was a great game but with very blant and half life-ish linear boxy level design, judging by my experiance from cod waw i dont think vietnam would have made a good setting either, but then again i played boiling point which did took place in a jungle and it was done well as far as i can speak about the map. Maybe all hope is not lost yet, maybe a sandbox game with a jungle map will come out, but lets keep it away from linear fps!!
Learn your history, we were winning the war. And ever though South Vientam wanted help?
Back on topic, Why should they stick with WW2 or MW there are largely over done. Vietnam isn't done nearly as much. They should do a Korean war next.( Have little knoledge of that one though. So maybe theres a reason why there hasn't been one.)
You are right;) this is getting offtopic, but anyway i will always believe that from all the wars the US has been into, the vietnam war was a lost cause and a clear mistake it should not happen again!!! But on topic i played vietcong and it was a great game but with very blant and half life-ish linear boxy level design, judging by my experiance from cod waw i dont think vietnam would have made a good setting either, but then again i played boiling point which did took place in a jungle and it was done well as far as i can speak about the map. Maybe all hope is not lost yet, maybe a sandbox game with a jungle map will come out, but lets keep it away from linear fps!![QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Think what you want. I really do not care, lets not make a big deal out of me thanking a man for serving for our great country. If you have a problem you can PM me. Do NOT high jack the thread and make a big deal out of this.morrowindnic
Learn your history, we were winning the war. And ever though South Vientam wanted help?
Back on topic, Why should they stick with WW2 or MW there are largely over done. Vietnam isn't done nearly as much. They should do a Korean war next.( Have little knoledge of that one though. So maybe theres a reason why there hasn't been one.)
You lost vietnam war and i am not an American ;) also why mess with other's countries war? That will only make more enemies to the US!![QUOTE="morrowindnic"][QUOTE="dakan45"] You are right;) this is getting offtopic, but anyway i will always believe that from all the wars the US has been into, the vietnam war was a lost cause and a clear mistake it should not happen again!!! But on topic i played vietcong and it was a great game but with very blant and half life-ish linear boxy level design, judging by my experiance from cod waw i dont think vietnam would have made a good setting either, but then again i played boiling point which did took place in a jungle and it was done well as far as i can speak about the map. Maybe all hope is not lost yet, maybe a sandbox game with a jungle map will come out, but lets keep it away from linear fps!!dakan45
Learn your history, we were winning the war. And ever though South Vientam wanted help?
Back on topic, Why should they stick with WW2 or MW there are largely over done. Vietnam isn't done nearly as much. They should do a Korean war next.( Have little knoledge of that one though. So maybe theres a reason why there hasn't been one.)
You lost vietnam war and i am not an American ;) also why mess with other's countries war? That will only make more enemies to the US!!militarily, it was a win
politically, it was a loss
however, since the purpose of war is to generally acheive a politcal goal, I would say we lost it.
It is extremely hard to critique the soldiers of doing a poor job, however, so lets cut some slack for a change
As with most things in this world, its a grey issue, and not black and white.
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. warmaster670
From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to protect something there has to be an attack of some kind on your country first.
We all know Vietnam was a botched war that shouldn't have been waged. Same for Iraq war. At least for the most part the Iraq vets weren't greeted with disgust like Vietnam vets. Despite one's stance on the wars, people need to have respect for those who served in it.[QUOTE="morrowindnic"][QUOTE="dakan45"] You are right;) this is getting offtopic, but anyway i will always believe that from all the wars the US has been into, the vietnam war was a lost cause and a clear mistake it should not happen again!!! But on topic i played vietcong and it was a great game but with very blant and half life-ish linear boxy level design, judging by my experiance from cod waw i dont think vietnam would have made a good setting either, but then again i played boiling point which did took place in a jungle and it was done well as far as i can speak about the map. Maybe all hope is not lost yet, maybe a sandbox game with a jungle map will come out, but lets keep it away from linear fps!!dakan45
Learn your history, we were winning the war. And ever though South Vientam wanted help?
Back on topic, Why should they stick with WW2 or MW there are largely over done. Vietnam isn't done nearly as much. They should do a Korean war next.( Have little knoledge of that one though. So maybe theres a reason why there hasn't been one.)
You lost vietnam war and i am not an American ;) also why mess with other's countries war? That will only make more enemies to the US!! You're telling that to people on forums? Blame our congressmen and presidents for that mess. Yeah we elected them, but after they get elected we don't really have any say in what they do. Plenty of people protested, but at the end of the day, it didn't matter at all. Lol... government for the people by the people... hilarious.[QUOTE="warmaster670"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. dakan45
From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to portect something theres has to be an attack of some kind on your country first.
Same observation, how exactly the war in vietnam protected the US nation? Where there any hostilities againe us to begin with? Oh well just the US army trying to police the world and the american people agreeing to it, like they are protecting their country, but what they really do is being mercenaries in wars that they are not theirs! American people agreeing to it? Apparently you either aren't aware or just chose to gloss over the fact that there were massive protests. You actually think we have any say in what our leaders choose to do? We don't. Yeah we elect them, but after they are in office, they pretty much do whatever the heck they want.[QUOTE="Artosa"]the troops on both sides in vietnam deserve great respect, it was an horrible war.rmfd341Don't say that, pick a side! NOW! This '' war is a shame'' thing is just pure bs. no, picking sides is stupid, war is not black and white, there is good and bad people on both sides, most soldiers did not fight because they believed in the ideology etc, they fought because they had to.
[QUOTE="rmfd341"][QUOTE="Artosa"]the troops on both sides in vietnam deserve great respect, it was an horrible war.ArtosaDon't say that, pick a side! NOW! This '' war is a shame'' thing is just pure bs. no, picking sides is stupid, war is not black and white, there is good and bad people on both sides, most soldiers did not fight because they believed in the ideology etc, they fought because they had to. You're either for one side, the other or you're neutral. Though no side will ever be perfect, one will always be better than the other.
Same observation, how exactly the war in vietnam protected the US nation? Where there any hostilities againe us to begin with? Oh well just the US army trying to police the world and the american people agreeing to it, like they are protecting their country, but what they really do is being mercenaries in wars that they are not theirs! American people agreeing to it? Apparently you either aren't aware or just chose to gloss over the fact that there were massive protests. You actually think we have any say in what our leaders choose to do? We don't. Yeah we elect them, but after they are in office, they pretty much do whatever the heck they want. Well if you have no say in what your leaders do...... Nice system!!! :lol:[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="warmaster670"]
From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to portect something theres has to be an attack of some kind on your country first.
zomglolcats
Wow people is there a problem with someone thanking someone for serving? I did a tour in Iraq, So STOP disrespecting the Service men & women and discuss dumb wars, wars that should/shoudlnt of been fought somewhere else.
Thank You, don't pay too much attention to dakan. He just gets mad when no one agrees with him.Wow people is there a problem with someone thanking someone for serving? I did a tour in Iraq, So STOP disrespecting the Service men & women and discuss dumb wars, wars that should/shoudlnt of been fought somewhere else.
dared3vil0
Mmmm... No problem, Now if you don't mind me im going to eat peanuts :)
I'll watch this thread to see wassa-goin'on!
Wow people is there a problem with someone thanking someone for serving? I did a tour in Iraq, So STOP disrespecting the Service men & women and discuss dumb wars, wars that should/shoudlnt of been fought somewhere else.
dared3vil0
incorect, I am against fighting a war that is not yours. Now if you are in the army and they send you to fight in iraq, thats ok because there is nothing you can do since your generals send you there. So yes you serve your country's army but you dont protect your great nation from any attack, thats what me and another user before me said when he corrected milleright89 on what he said!! Take a look:
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]First off, if it is true that you served thank you for protecting our great nation. warmaster670From what? the country that was never attacking? im sorry but in order to portect something theres has to be an attack of some kind on your country first
^^That was my observation
It's late here im sleepy... meaning i'm going to bed, I'll fight this tomorrow. Nighty Night eveyone!
Thank You, don't pay too much attention to dakan. He just gets mad when no one agrees with him. millerlight89
Biased and incorrect, i am not mad at all, neither you should be because i was not the one who corrected you and made the point, it was warmaster670 who corrected you.But you are right i should be mad that no ones agrees with me, especially when you are wrong!!
So i am gonna pose the question that warmaster670 posed, again. From what exactly the troops in vietnam protected the "great nation"? The country was not attacking to begin with, i guess you could just thank him for serving, but you cant say he "protected the great nation" Because the US sent him to fight another's country war!!!
Why not just admit you where wrong instead of trying to cover it up?
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Thank You, don't pay too much attention to dakan. He just gets mad when no one agrees with him. dakan45
Biased and incorrect, i am not mad at all, neither you should be because i was not the one who corrected you and made the point, it was warmaster670 who corrected you.But you are right i should be mad that no ones agrees with me, especially when you are wrong!!
So i am gonna pose the question that warmaster670 posed, again. From what exactly the troops in vietnam protected the "great nation"? The country was not attacking to begin with, i guess you could just thank him for serving, but you cant say he "protected the great nation" Because the US sent him to fight another's country war!!!
Why not just admit you where wrong instead of trying to cover it up?
Why not get over it and quit posting off topic. I thanked a guy for serving America, get over it. Really sad ha ;).Viet Nam is a jungle. It is not Europe. This makes for a very boring map. I was two tours in the Nam. Believe me. It will take a great imagination to come up with an interesting map with so little to work with.
Malphal
lol, what exactly are you talking about? CoD? it's not official yet. and if you really did 2 tours there you'd know that the place is anything but a "boring map".
Correct, i may not be the the biggest fan of american politics(im english) but i have great respect for the troops, they are just doing there job in the end and they do it well.Wow people is there a problem with someone thanking someone for serving? I did a tour in Iraq, So STOP disrespecting the Service men & women and discuss dumb wars, wars that should/shoudlnt of been fought somewhere else.
dared3vil0
[QUOTE="zomglolcats"]American people agreeing to it? Apparently you either aren't aware or just chose to gloss over the fact that there were massive protests. You actually think we have any say in what our leaders choose to do? We don't. Yeah we elect them, but after they are in office, they pretty much do whatever the heck they want. Well if you have no say in what your leaders do...... Nice system!!! :lol: Oh they like to pretend we have a say, but at the end of the day, we really don't. It's a nice system to make the voter thinks that what he's doing matters at all. Congress and the President pretty much decide everything. Now since Congress and the President are elected by the people. they are supposed to appeal to their constituents. But the actual people don't get to vote on real issues. Congress and the President do it for them and you have to hope that they REAALLLY have your best interests in mind (LOL!).[QUOTE="dakan45"] Same observation, how exactly the war in vietnam protected the US nation? Where there any hostilities againe us to begin with? Oh well just the US army trying to police the world and the american people agreeing to it, like they are protecting their country, but what they really do is being mercenaries in wars that they are not theirs!dakan45
Also, the president can declare war without approval from congress for... up to what, 30 days? I can't remember. It's supposed to be a national security measure to avoid red tape in a national emergency. But well we can all see how that can be horribly abused. I'm not saying EVERYBODY was opposed to Vietnam or the Iraq war, but please don't lump the entire American population together. A lot of people didn't want either war.
[QUOTE="rmfd341"][QUOTE="Artosa"]the troops on both sides in vietnam deserve great respect, it was an horrible war.ArtosaDon't say that, pick a side! NOW! This '' war is a shame'' thing is just pure bs. no, picking sides is stupid, war is not black and white, there is good and bad people on both sides, most soldiers did not fight because they believed in the ideology etc, they fought because they had to. War is not black and white, you're quite right about that, but there is a certain side to pick, you might agree with the Germans starting the war because France and England took everything away from them and left them for dead, or you might also pick the allies side, which includes the discovery of concentration camps years after the war started, it depends on your view. Soldiers might not fight for the ideology, but it's about fighting for your country, protecting your family, etc.
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