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#1 DutchDoc
Member since 2006 • 2623 Posts

Okay from what i've heard vista is not worth your money and you should better keep your pc windows xp.

Since im totally noob with vista, what does it improve so far? I've only heard complaints about it so why did they launched this?

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#2 filmography
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well it just launched so dont expect everything to work, the main reason you want vista is Dx10. you see cryssi and bioshock are dx10 so those are 2 excellent reasons to want to get vista. Also the drivers are now stable enough to warrent a full switch to vista in my opinion, I dont have much trouble with vista at all. Oh and if you dont wana spend 200 on vista ultimate well their other ways to get it aka torrents.
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#3 DutchDoc
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Ow yeah i know how to get it via that other way, but the games you have on xp won't work on vista in that case, do they?
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#4 Dracunos
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well it just launched so dont expect everything to work, the main reason you want vista is Dx10. you see cryssi and bioshock are dx10 so those are 2 excellent reasons to want to get vista. Also the drivers are now stable enough to warrent a full switch to vista in my opinion, I dont have much trouble with vista at all. Oh and if you dont wana spend 200 on vista ultimate well their other ways to get it aka torrents. filmography

http://www.gamespot.com/misc/tos.html 

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#5 dbowman
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DX10 is the only advantage.
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#6 BounceDK
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Nothing has improved, in fact it's crap. And DX10 is soooo slooow.
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#7 Dracunos
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Nothing has improved, in fact it's crap. And DX10 is soooo slooow.BounceDK

Hrmm.. Because I love the new additions that were made for XP compared to 98, and of course the stability was greatly improved. The windowsy settings were a lot more accessable. Vista doesn't have anything? Nothing at all? 

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#8 oscar530
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Personally I would keep my XP until end of 07 or early 08
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#9 dayaccus007
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better security and directx10 suport
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#10 Sup11722
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vis·ta   /vista/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[vis-tuh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -noun 1.a view or prospect, esp. one seen through a long, narrow avenue or passage, as between rows of trees or houses. 2.such an avenue or passage, esp. when formally planned. 3.a far-reaching mental view: vistas of the future.

So apprently you will be able to see though a row of trees, Become and Avenue or passage when formally planed and have a far reaching mental view =D

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#11 gamer082009
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[QUOTE="BounceDK"]Nothing has improved, in fact it's crap. And DX10 is soooo slooow.Dracunos

Hrmm.. Because I love the new additions that were made for XP compared to 98, and of course the stability was greatly improved. The windowsy settings were a lot more accessable. Vista doesn't have anything? Nothing at all? 

  Vista has improved on many things, and is in fact much better than XP...just needs more apps supporting it.
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#12 Dracunos
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[QUOTE="Dracunos"]

[QUOTE="BounceDK"]Nothing has improved, in fact it's crap. And DX10 is soooo slooow.gamer082009

Hrmm.. Because I love the new additions that were made for XP compared to 98, and of course the stability was greatly improved. The windowsy settings were a lot more accessable. Vista doesn't have anything? Nothing at all?

Vista has improved on many things, and is in fact much better than XP...just needs more apps supporting it.

Can you explain further? Or is it just simply a USB plug that you insert into your groin that feeds wonderful emotions that cannot be explained? 

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#13 Jack_Summersby
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I have purchase Vista for dirt cheap, and will be dual-booting this Summer.

It would be REAL nice to hear from PC gamers running Vista - I don't want to hear you parrot other people's criticisms of Vista. I want first person accounts of PC Gamers' experiences with the new OS that we will all eventually be upgrading to.

Please comment.

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#14 Dracunos
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I have purchase Vista for dirt cheap, and will be dual-booting this Summer.

It would be REAL nice to hear from PC gamers running Vista - I don't want to hear you parrot other people's criticisms of Vista. I want first person accounts of PC Gamers' experiences with the new OS that we will all eventually be upgrading to.

Please comment.

Jack_Summersby

Well I've had it for ten years, and it's just terrible. The games all run slower.. the few that run! Compatibility issues, can't run any games, direct X explodes every so often and my computer is constantly crashing. The only reason I still have it is because of that USB plug thing I was speaking about above. 

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#15 gamerchris810
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In a Year or so Everyone will be saying the opposite and will be saying vista is the best u need it....dudes, DX10 and its shiny
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#16 xcryonicx
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ok, first hand experience here with Home Premium. The OS itself is very nice and is steps above XP in terms of a computing but for gaming, I'm stickin' with XP. Luckily it's incredibly easy to install Vista on a separate partition and therefor gives you the option to dual boot upon start up. It's not that game run like crap for me on Vista, it's just that on XP they run about 15-20% better and without any problems. A few games on Vista just load up with graphics errors and a jumble of colors. I'm just going to wait for either my CPU upgrade to an X2 5200+ or until Vista becomes a necessity for gaming before I throw the towel in for XP.
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#17 RazorGR
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I've been using Vista for a few months now and it's not nearly as bad as people say it is. 

For one, it's suprisingly stable for a new OS and much more secure as well, largely due to UAC. Desktop performance is faster than XP probably due to Superfetch and better management of unused RAM (that's why it uses much RAM when idle).  As for gaming, I haven't noticed any performance loss in my games (I've only tested Oblivion, R6 Vegas, STALKER, FEAR and Far Cry).

 

 

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#18 Jack_Summersby
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Thanks for the first person accounts, and keep 'em coming.
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#19 ObsidianArbiter
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its alot more secure which means its really freaking hard to hack it (unfortunatly for me) and yea ur gonna want DX10 also most games have patches or things u can do to make it work with vista with no problems whatsoever, plus the search feature actually kicks a suprisingly large amount of ass :P
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#20 gamer082009
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[QUOTE="gamer082009"][QUOTE="Dracunos"]

[QUOTE="BounceDK"]Nothing has improved, in fact it's crap. And DX10 is soooo slooow.Dracunos

Hrmm.. Because I love the new additions that were made for XP compared to 98, and of course the stability was greatly improved. The windowsy settings were a lot more accessable. Vista doesn't have anything? Nothing at all?

Vista has improved on many things, and is in fact much better than XP...just needs more apps supporting it.

Can you explain further? Or is it just simply a USB plug that you insert into your groin that feeds wonderful emotions that cannot be explained? 

  Graphically it looks way more improved than XP, you can find alot of your files much easier just by typing them in the start menu search box (very convenient), when windows are minimized you can now preview them in REAL TIME just by rolling your mouse over them, files are much more organized, DX10 support, Windows Aero, Media Center is better integrated into the OS, added Windows Media Extender for the Xbox 360, Windows Dreamscene (allows you to have a video playing as a desktop background). I can continue but I'd be going on forever. I mean Vista is not that bad, people just love to jump on the "hate on Vista" bandwagon. As I said before my only gripes with Vista is the application compatibility at the moment, which WILL improve as time goes on. It's a new OS for gods sake give it time...it really aint that bad!
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#21 gamerchris810
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[QUOTE="Dracunos"][QUOTE="gamer082009"][QUOTE="Dracunos"]

[QUOTE="BounceDK"]Nothing has improved, in fact it's crap. And DX10 is soooo slooow.gamer082009

Hrmm.. Because I love the new additions that were made for XP compared to 98, and of course the stability was greatly improved. The windowsy settings were a lot more accessable. Vista doesn't have anything? Nothing at all?

Vista has improved on many things, and is in fact much better than XP...just needs more apps supporting it.

Can you explain further? Or is it just simply a USB plug that you insert into your groin that feeds wonderful emotions that cannot be explained?

Graphically it looks way more improved than XP, you can find alot of your files much easier just by typing them in the start menu search box (very convenient), when windows are minimized you can now preview them in REAL TIME just by rolling your mouse over them, files are much more organized, DX10 support, Windows Aero, Media Center is better integrated into the OS, added Windows Media Extender for the Xbox 360, Windows Dreamscene (allows you to have a video playing as a desktop background). I can continue but I'd be going on forever. I mean Vista is not that bad, people just love to jump on the "hate on Vista" bandwagon. As I said before my only gripes with Vista is the application compatibility at the moment, which WILL improve as time goes on. It's a new OS for gods sake give it time...it really aint that bad!

AY MEN! 

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#22 jlucpicard
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The problems Vista is having is why I'd be very suprised if any DX10 games such as Bioshock are released in 2007. There are way too many of us that are holding off buying Vista and therefore any games requiring it, until the issues are addressed and a SP is released. The game makers know this would have a huge impact on sales, so I think we'll keep seeing trailers and screenshots only of most DX10 games for quite awhile.
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#23 ikwal
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Vista has LOTS of advatages, maybe not that many for gaming right now but it has many really good features that weren't in xp. It just seems like it's the cool thing right now to hate vista.
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#24 The_War_Chief
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I don't like the administration system on Vista. And it crashed several times on the old games, even when running them in Windows XP compatability mode. It's also been very slow sometimes, and quite frankly, some of those security measures are just extreme. There was one we had to turn off which would ask you if you wanted to do that action everytime you did something. Like, open a Microsoft office application, 'do you want to do that?'. A bit excessive. I mean, people say give Vista time. Then why did Microsoft even release it before they ironed out all the bugs. I don't expect to have a buggy operating system with the promise of 'Hey, it's early days yet!'. Yeah, thanks for that, but it doesn't solve my problems now!
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#25 Erlkoenig
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All gimmicks, no advantage (DX10) yet. Lame DRM, 523971 confirmations for just a few simple actions. Not worth it.

Yet.

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#26 Rammstein01
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I wouldn't go back to XP after using Vista, it is superior in so many ways.
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#27 knut-am
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I have purchase Vista for dirt cheap, and will be dual-booting this Summer.

It would be REAL nice to hear from PC gamers running Vista - I don't want to hear you parrot other people's criticisms of Vista. I want first person accounts of PC Gamers' experiences with the new OS that we will all eventually be upgrading to.

Please comment.

Jack_Summersby

i will build a new computer and install Vista 64 on that probably sometimes late this coming week, i will use a dual boot system with xp so im sure i can get all my games running, but will of course first try them out on Vista. i will post any impression of the games running or not on vista fair and square.  

 

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#28 BounceDK
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Horrible performance, horrible sound, horrible drivers, horrible software support. It's just .. horrible
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#29 knut-am
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well, some postings are more idiotic then others :D
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#30 marc5477
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I have it on a partition to try it out. It performed noticably slower in several games including Sacred (fairly old game), Oblivion, NWN2 & Quake IV. The idea that it has better security than a currently patched XP OS is a myth since it has not been proven. The only reason it is not being exploited by virus writers yet is because it does not have the huge user base. Once it does, we will see how secure it really is and we can decide then but given MS's history I wouldnt bet on its security.

I would say that the OS is still too raw to be useful for anyone. Everything it has is already available on XP minus DX10 so stick to XP until they iron out all the issues and bring performance up... although even then, it really has nothing to offer except DX10 for gamers. If you are not a gamer, there is no reason to upgrade that I can see.
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#31 Jack_Summersby
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Horrible performance, horrible sound, horrible drivers, horrible software support. It's just .. horrible  BounceDK

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