This is what happens if yousay something bad aboutBioware.
Pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
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That doesn't sound legal. Unless, when he bought the game, there was a specific clause of the EULA that stated his access to the game could be suspended or prohibited due to forum posts or w/e he posted that comment (totally not worth a ban by any stretch of the imagination as it was).
That's like blasting Honda in an online forum and them coming and taking your property away.
Once again, things seem to be 100% on the side of game developers.
Maybe one day they'll be able to make games without having to worry about consumers at all, so they can get away with whatever they want.
Oh. Wait. They already do.
judging from from that, it sounds very unreasonable.. however always be careful to judge when you only know one side of the story. it's in his best interest to make himself sound like the good guy/victim and bioware/ea like the bad guy after all. i would assume that must be their most severe punishment so i doubt they handed it out just because he said the one thing and hurt their feelings or whatever..
So developers do make a conscious effort to read hate comments from users.. Not letting them play their game because of a negative comment is taking it too far. Like BLKR said, we don't know if he's telling the whole story. But still, suspend him or ban him from the forums but don't suspend his game account and not let him play his game product. Elann2008i talk trash about the ps3 version of mass effect 2 on their technical support page all the time i'm still not banned :P horrible port btw, stick to ur pc version folks :P
[QUOTE="Elann2008"]So developers do make a conscious effort to read hate comments from users.. Not letting them play their game because of a negative comment is taking it too far. Like BLKR said, we don't know if he's telling the whole story. But still, suspend him or ban him from the forums but don't suspend his game account and not let him play his game product. Batang_X990i talk trash about the ps3 version of mass effect 2 on their technical support page all the time i'm still not banned :P horrible port btw, stick to ur pc version folks :P Exactly. Is BioWare butt-hurt by the critic scores that they won't even let people say or voice their opinion, even if it can be a bit harsh? I'll think twice before I post on BioWare forums. :P
Did you read the bioware response at the bottom of the link?
Just absurd. These people are criminals.
Uh Oh. I hope they dont read the gamespot forums either or I might get locked out of my games.
Looking at the last post it seems to be coming from EA rather than Bioware. Still wrong though, bying a product shouldn't mean you have to shut your mouth and pretend you like it.ManicAceIf someone wants to post criticism, he/she should do so without insulting the company. Now if only Valve would be this strict.
[QUOTE="ManicAce"]Looking at the last post it seems to be coming from EA rather than Bioware. Still wrong though, bying a product shouldn't mean you have to shut your mouth and pretend you like it.Theguy56If someone wants to post criticism, he/she should do so without insulting the company. Now if only Valve would be this strict.Any criticism could be taken as an insult. If they want to stop him from voicing his opinion on their forums that's fine for me, but I don't see how anyone can defend them taking away games he's bought earlier. If anything they just proved him right.
[QUOTE="ManicAce"]Looking at the last post it seems to be coming from EA rather than Bioware. Still wrong though, bying a product shouldn't mean you have to shut your mouth and pretend you like it.Theguy56If someone wants to post criticism, he/she should do so without insulting the company. Now if only Valve would be this strict. Why? If you insulted walmart after purchasing X amount of $, should they be able to kick you and and take your stuff? Gamers like to say piracy is theft (its not), while this is actual theft (loss of game), and its ok?
[QUOTE="Theguy56"][QUOTE="ManicAce"]Looking at the last post it seems to be coming from EA rather than Bioware. Still wrong though, bying a product shouldn't mean you have to shut your mouth and pretend you like it.Captain__TrippsIf someone wants to post criticism, he/she should do so without insulting the company. Now if only Valve would be this strict. Why? If you insulted walmart after purchasing X amount of $, should they be able to kick you and and take your stuff? Gamers like to say piracy is theft (its not), while this is actual theft (loss of game), and its ok? I really doubt the poster is as innocent as he/she claims. Also, it's in the EULA.
I don't know why that happened, to be honest. I've seen plenty of negative threads about Dragon Age 2 and they were all allowed to stay open, with one developer saying ( I think, don't quote me on it ) they should be free to say what they think about the game.
[QUOTE="ManicAce"]Looking at the last post it seems to be coming from EA rather than Bioware. Still wrong though, bying a product shouldn't mean you have to shut your mouth and pretend you like it.Theguy56If someone wants to post criticism, he/she should do so without insulting the company. Now if only Valve would be this strict. I made a thread on the Steam general forums asking why Gabe Newell was so fat and they closed it. So much for Valve's lenient policy.
I made a thread on the Steam general forums asking why Gabe Newell was so fat and they closed it. So much for Valve's lenient policy.
SkyWard20
I lol'd
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I wish people around here reported accurate news. It is EA's, not Biware's doin.dsgsdfgf
Bioware is EA.
No, Bioware is not EA.Dice do the same thing, friend of mine got suspended for saying stupid stuff and his battlefield account was suspended for the the same time.
If it helps keep trolls and people who don't know to behave away, by all mean do it and I don't feel any pity for them. It's definitely not the whole story imo, there's worse threads on the forums and that crap is still open. If you must speak your mind, they don't suspend or ban you for it unless you were particularly rude in the process or started throwing insults at everybody.
[QUOTE="dsgsdfgf"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]I wish people around here reported accurate news. It is EA's, not Biware's doin.millerlight89
Bioware is EA.
No, Bioware is not EA.Bioware is owned by EA. They follow EA's TOS. Bioware Community is part of EA Community.
Why shouldn't they be considered as a part of EA?
[QUOTE="dsgsdfgf"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]I wish people around here reported accurate news. It is EA's, not Biware's doin.millerlight89
Bioware is EA.
No, Bioware is not EA. Go tell Bioware that, or Maxis, or DICE, or Criterion, or the crappy Black Box (that gets named EA because they make crappy games, yet you defend Bioware because they are not EA when they are), etc. Yep, it's all EA and the banned guy deserved it as somebody already said, no matter what you say in a sentence there's always more in the post than that single line that you think it's responsible, I witnessed several case on different EA games, BC 2 (4) and ME 2 (2), it's a lot more than this "inocent" guy let's you believe TC, you have to do a lot of things to get banned on any EA forums.[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="dsgsdfgf"]No, Bioware is not EA. Go tell Bioware that, or Maxis, or DICE, or Criterion, or the crappy Black Box (that gets named EA because they make crappy games, yet you defend Bioware because they are not EA when they are), etc. Yep, it's all EA and the banned guy deserved it as somebody already said, no matter what you say in a sentence there's always more in the post than that single line that you think it's responsible, I witnessed several case on different EA games, BC 2 (4) and ME 2 (2), it's a lot more than this "inocent" guy let's you believe TC, you have to do a lot of things to get banned on any EA forums. Please, point out where I defended Bioware.... please go ahead and do it. I'm not going to wait, because I know like you, I didn't defend **** Bioware is not EA, they are NOT the same company. I really didn't think it was that hard of a concept to understand, apparently it is. :?Bioware is EA.
DanielDust
[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="dsgsdfgf"]No, Bioware is not EA. Go tell Bioware that, or Maxis, or DICE, or Criterion, or the crappy Black Box (that gets named EA because they make crappy games, yet you defend Bioware because they are not EA when they are), etc. Yep, it's all EA and the banned guy deserved it as somebody already said, no matter what you say in a sentence there's always more in the post than that single line that you think it's responsible, I witnessed several case on different EA games, BC 2 (4) and ME 2 (2), it's a lot more than this "inocent" guy let's you believe TC, you have to do a lot of things to get banned on any EA forums. EA owns BIoware but they work independently from what I understand.Bioware is EA.
DanielDust
[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="dsgsdfgf"]No, Bioware is not EA. Go tell Bioware that, or Maxis, or DICE, or Criterion, or the crappy Black Box (that gets named EA because they make crappy games, yet you defend Bioware because they are not EA when they are), etc. Yep, it's all EA and the banned guy deserved it as somebody already said, no matter what you say in a sentence there's always more in the post than that single line that you think it's responsible, I witnessed several case on different EA games, BC 2 (4) and ME 2 (2), it's a lot more than this "inocent" guy let's you believe TC, you have to do a lot of things to get banned on any EA forums.Bioware is EA.
DanielDust
It's true that I don't know the whole story, but it shouldn't matter what he you say on a forum, you should still be able to play yourgame you've payed for.
Permaban him on the forum or whatever, I don't care about that at all.
[QUOTE="DanielDust"] Go tell Bioware that, or Maxis, or DICE, or Criterion, or the crappy Black Box (that gets named EA because they make crappy games, yet you defend Bioware because they are not EA when they are), etc. dakan45Where is crytek? :D
Crytek isn't owned by EA.
Go tell Bioware that, or Maxis, or DICE, or Criterion, or the crappy Black Box (that gets named EA because they make crappy games, yet you defend Bioware because they are not EA when they are), etc. Yep, it's all EA and the banned guy deserved it as somebody already said, no matter what you say in a sentence there's always more in the post than that single line that you think it's responsible, I witnessed several case on different EA games, BC 2 (4) and ME 2 (2), it's a lot more than this "inocent" guy let's you believe TC, you have to do a lot of things to get banned on any EA forums.[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] No, Bioware is not EA. dsgsdfgf
It's true that I don't know the whole story, but it shouldn't matter what he you say on a forum, you should still be able to play yourgame you've payed for.
Permaban him on the forum or whatever, I don't care about that at all.
Also, it should be common sense by now that all EA games with an online component, that uses the same account as your main EA website/EADM account, are tied and the limitations that you get on either side are reflected onto the other, it's been like that for a few years.
[QUOTE="dsgsdfgf"]
[QUOTE="DanielDust"] Go tell Bioware that, or Maxis, or DICE, or Criterion, or the crappy Black Box (that gets named EA because they make crappy games, yet you defend Bioware because they are not EA when they are), etc. Yep, it's all EA and the banned guy deserved it as somebody already said, no matter what you say in a sentence there's always more in the post than that single line that you think it's responsible, I witnessed several case on different EA games, BC 2 (4) and ME 2 (2), it's a lot more than this "inocent" guy let's you believe TC, you have to do a lot of things to get banned on any EA forums. DanielDust
It's true that I don't know the whole story, but it shouldn't matter what he you say on a forum, you should still be able to play yourgame you've payed for.
Permaban him on the forum or whatever, I don't care about that at all.
Also, it should be common sense by now that all EA games with an online component, that uses the same account as your main EA website/EADM account, are tied and the limitations that you get on either side are reflected onto the other, it's been like that for a few years.
Sorry but you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. I didn't say he was permabanned. I said that I don't care if they permaban him on the forum, they justshouldn't be allowed to hinder his access to his game. I agree that some people on forumsshould getbanned but they shouldn't lose access to singeplayer games they've paid for. If someone is hacking in multiplayer, ban their key but singleplayer games shouldn't be affected by stuff said on a forum.
Edit: Why do the spaces always disappear on this site? :(
[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]EA owns BIoware but they work independently from what I understand.
MadCat46
That makes zero sense, they own them but they have no control over them?
They develop their own games -- EA having no control over them is not something I have said. Much like Pixar is a part of Disney but they have their own team.[QUOTE="MadCat46"][QUOTE="SkyWard20"]EA owns BIoware but they work independently from what I understand.
SkyWard20
That makes zero sense, they own them but they have no control over them?
They develop their own games -- EA having no control over them is not something I have said. Much like Pixar is a part of Disney but they have their own team. They have their own team and label but that doesn't mean they're working independently, if EA tells BioWare to jump BioWare is going to jump no questions asked. Working independently means there's no real outside influence and I promise you there is plenty of outside influence in BioWare, that's just the nature of the business.[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="MadCat46"]They develop their own games -- EA having no control over them is not something I have said. Much like Pixar is a part of Disney but they have their own team. They have their own team and label but that doesn't mean they're working independently, if EA tells BioWare to jump BioWare is going to jump no questions asked. Working independently means there's no real outside influence and I promise you there is plenty of outside influence in BioWare, that's just the nature of the business. I don't know about that ( if Bioware will agree to anything, I know there's some influence ). I know that EA is funding Bioware and they have the say if a project goes or not, but I don't think EA interferes with the development team, or at least, they are seen as their own team and have the biggest responsibility on how the games they're working on turn out. That's what I meant.That makes zero sense, they own them but they have no control over them?
MadCat46
Wow, that is...ridiculous. I don't know what to say man. And then that stanley woo clown comes and tells you that you should be okay with this because you did what everybody does and accepted the terms of a legal document drawn up by people with law degrees so you could play your freaking games.
What the hell has our hobby turned into?
I don't know about that ( if Bioware will agree to anything, I know there's some influence ). I know that EA is funding Bioware and they have the say if a project goes or not, but I don't think EA interferes with the development team, or at least, they are seen as their own team and have the biggest responsibility on how the games they're working on turn out. That's what I meant.SkyWard20
Day-to-day development EA does little if anything and ultimately how the game turns out quality wise has more do with BioWare, I agree there. But EA does have a say and full control when they're sitting at the tables with BioWare's project managers and laying down the foundation for their next project, that's where their influence is heaviest. One thing EA does well is understand how to appeal to the masses and that's become incredibly evident as they've helped BioWare take their RPG's to levels I doubt BioWare even thought were possible in regards to sales.
BioWare's always done well moving units but since getting forced aboard with EA they've put up numbers that really are mindblowing when you think back to how niche the RPG genre was. And I guarantee you BioWare will agree with pretty much whatever EA says if it falls into the realms of logical and possible. EA signs the pay checks and foots the bills, BioWare doesn't like doing it EA's way half of them get canned and the rest and reformed into EA Edmonton, EA's done it before.
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