Wat is a bottleneck?

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#1 half-pat92
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#2 Generalkill8888
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Topic^half-pat92
Its a component in your PC that is bogging the perfomance down of another Component. For example a P4 3.0 CPU paired up with a 8800GTX. The CPU would be the Bottleneck.
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#3 half-pat92
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[QUOTE="half-pat92"]Topic^Generalkill8888
Its a component in your PC that is bogging the perfomance down of another Component. For example a P4 3.0 CPU would bottleneck a 8800GTX.


Ok, dis would be reversed but is dis a bottleneck?:
ATI Mobility Radeon Xpress 200 (its a laptop) would bottleneck an AMD Antlon 64 2.2Ghz.

Also, would botllenecking also cause lag in any game at any random moment for about 5 seconds and then do it again at any moment?
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the part where you hold the beer.....
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Here is a definition from the web - "A portion of a system or network that is slower than the rest of the data path, either because of its throughput speed or because of multiple data streams converging at that point." The term comes from the neck of a bottle (like a wine bottle) which is thinner than the bottle itself, and when you pour the liquid out, it can't get out all at once because the bottleneck is too narrow. In the context of computers, one component can bottleneck your system if it does not provide enough capacity so all your components can operate at their full speed. As was explained before, a slow CPU will "bottleneck" a faster video card since it cannot feed it enough information to keep it busy. However, this term should not be confused with improper operation of your system - bottlenecking is not a hardware failure, or a bug, or a disease. Its just that you have a piece of your system that is holding your system back from reaching its full potential. Well, something is always going to bottleneck your system. Even in mine, the CPU is a bottleneck, or even the Raptor hard drives. There is always one component of the system that will be "slower". Your system is only as fast as its slowest component. When you buy a video card or a CPU, and if you are on a budget, you may not want to "waste" money buying a component that will be severely bottlenecked - not because it wont work, but because you dont want to waster your money. For example, if you have a Intel Celeron 1GHz, you probably dont want to waster $500 on a 8800GTX video card, when a $200 card will do just as well. The extra power of the 8800GTX is being "bottlenecked" by your CPU, and you are wasting $300. However, if you are not budget constrained, buy the fastest components you can afford and don't worry about bottlenecking. Eventually you will have all the fastest components in your system and bottlenecking will not be an issue.
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A myth, much like unicorns and global warming. People told me that my 7800GS would be bottlenecked by my 3000+ xp. I called them liars and proceeded to overclock my CPU and RAM by about 10%. I have played every top shelf game since then just fine, and will be able to make it until this winter, when I build my next rig. My point is that uber-nerds like to tell people with perfectly fine computers that they will have terrible gaming experience, when the truth is that most bottlenecks can be fixed by a little ingenuity (ala overclocking), or just buying the right hardware in the first place. Sure, a 8800GTX will bottleneck a P3 800mHz, but who games on that rig anyway? A unicorn or Al Gore, thats who.
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Basically, to avoid bottlenecking, components of your rig need to be as good as each other.
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[QUOTE="Dust24311"]A myth, much like unicorns and global warming. People told me that my 7800GS would be bottlenecked by my 3000+ xp. I called them liars and proceeded to overclock my CPU and RAM by about 10%. I have played every top shelf game since then just fine, and will be able to make it until this winter, when I build my next rig. My point is that uber-nerds like to tell people with perfectly fine computers that they will have terrible gaming experience, when the truth is that most bottlenecks can be fixed by a little ingenuity (ala overclocking), or just buying the right hardware in the first place. Sure, a 8800GTX will bottleneck a P3 800mHz, but who games on that rig anyway? A unicorn or Al Gore, thats who.



It is not a myth, it is a fact.

I have no idea who told you that a 7800gs is bottlenecked by a 3000+ but that is just plain wrong, well as long as you are playing at a decent resolution with most settings on high.
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[QUOTE="Dust24311"]A myth, much like unicorns and global warming. People told me that my 7800GS would be bottlenecked by my 3000+ xp. I called them liars and proceeded to overclock my CPU and RAM by about 10%. I have played every top shelf game since then just fine, and will be able to make it until this winter, when I build my next rig. My point is that uber-nerds like to tell people with perfectly fine computers that they will have terrible gaming experience, when the truth is that most bottlenecks can be fixed by a little ingenuity (ala overclocking), or just buying the right hardware in the first place. Sure, a 8800GTX will bottleneck a P3 800mHz, but who games on that rig anyway? A unicorn or Al Gore, thats who.


Off topic and probably not the place or the time, but you brought it up; I agree global warming isn't a proven fact. However, if someday it does turn out to a be fact (like maybe half the peoples who have actually had an education to know these things claim) implications would be huge and most likely disasterous. Now personally I fail to understand why anyone would want to even take this risk and call it a myth.. Picure this: you're driving a car with two passengers in a thick fog. Driving along when all of a sudden one of those passengers urges you to stop because he saw breaklights right in front of you, meanwhile the other passenger says he saw nothing, you yourself aren't sure what you saw, would you hit the brakes?