We need bigger nukes in games- nukes in SupCom and WiC are nothing

I know it's not gonna happen, but I found this interesting about the Tsar Bomba (aka King of bombs):

"If detonated at full scale the yield of 100 megatons (100Mt--equal to one hundred million tons of TNT). The explosive force of this bomb would have been approximately 6,500 times the 15-16 kiloton bomb detonated at Hiroshima. It would have increased the world's total fission fallout since the invention of the atomic bomb by 25%."

"The device was scaled down from its original design of 100 megatons to 50 megatons to prevent large radioactive fallout in a test on October 30, 1961, in Novaya Zemlya, an archipelago in the Arctic Sea."

"Developed by the Soviet Union"

"The initial three-stage design was capable of approximately 100 Mt, but at a cost of too much radioactive fallout. To limit fallout, the third stage, and possibly the second stage, had a lead tamper instead of a uranium-238 fusion tamper (which greatly amplifies the reaction by fissioning uranium atoms with fast neutrons from the fusion reaction), reducing it to 50Mt."

"The 50 megaton version (not the 100Mt) test was seen and felt 1,000 km away. The heat from the explosion could have caused third degree burns 100 km away from ground zero. The subsequent mushroom cloud was about 60 km high (nearly seven times higher than Mount Everest)and 30-40 km wide. The explosion could be seen and felt in Finland, even breaking windows there. Atmospheric focusing caused blast damage up to 1,000 km away. The seismic shock created by the detonation was measurable even on its third passage around the Earth." Imagine the 100Mt version.

"By contrast, the largest weapon ever produced by the United States, the now-decommissioned B41, had a predicted maximum yield of "merely" 25 Mt"

"The Soviets decided that such a test blast (100Mt version) would create too great a risk of nuclear fallout and a near certainty that the release plane would be unable to reach safety before detonation so they reduced it to 50Mt."

"The flash of light was so bright that it was visible at a distance of 1000 km away, despite cloudy skies".

"In districts hundreds of kilometers from ground zero, wooden houses were destroyed, and stone ones lost their roofs, windows and doors; and radio communications were interrupted for almost one hour."

"Even at the decreased yield of 50Mt (from 100Mt), it was approximately 4000 times more powerful then the Little Boy bomb (bomb that was dropped over Hiroshima japan)."

"A giant 5400 square foot nylon parachute was made for the bomb to slow down its descent to allow the bomber time to escape to a safe distance from the explosion. "

"Sound alone from the 50Mt version of the Tsar Bomba was enough to kill a human if too close to ground zero,from the sound waves causing pressure on the body."

Just thought I'd share....since you guys seemed to impressed by those small nukes in SupCom and WiC.

If those nukes were ever used the whole map and then some would be destroyed, thus making that type of bomb useless in supcom and in WiC. onemic

I know...I'm just saying that the nukes you guys are impressed about in SupCom are really nothing. 

Well the reason why the game developers don't put these mass weapons in the game is because 1: all you have to do is create this weapon and win the game plus prob kill all your units etc etc 2: The computer you would need to run that kind of effect would have to be something from the government.

[QUOTE="onemic"]If those nukes were ever used the whole map and then some would be destroyed, thus making that type of bomb useless in supcom and in WiC. DarkRecruit

I know...I'm just saying that the nukes you guys are impressed about in SupCom are really nothing.

I think most people already knew that though. The atomic bomb used on Hiroshima is still way bigger than the ones used in WiC and even supcom.(Although if someone in supcom wanted to they could probably mod the nuke so that its destruction distance was as much as those bombs)

WiC's nuke is by far the best I've seen in a game even though it's smaller than supcom's.  

[QUOTE="DarkRecruit"]

[QUOTE="onemic"]If those nukes were ever used the whole map and then some would be destroyed, thus making that type of bomb useless in supcom and in WiC. onemic

I know...I'm just saying that the nukes you guys are impressed about in SupCom are really nothing.

I think most people already knew that though. The atomic bomb used on Hiroshima is still way bigger than the ones used in WiC and even supcom.(Although if someone in supcom wanted to they could probably mod the nuke so that its destruction distance was as much as those bombs)

WiC's nuke is by far the best I've seen in a game even though it's smaller than supcom's.

Yea but the 100Mt version of Tsar Bomba is 6500 times the force of the bomb used on Hiroshima. Hard to imagine that.Still....you gotta admit this topic has some pretty interesting facts.

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="DarkRecruit"]

[QUOTE="onemic"]If those nukes were ever used the whole map and then some would be destroyed, thus making that type of bomb useless in supcom and in WiC. DarkRecruit

I know...I'm just saying that the nukes you guys are impressed about in SupCom are really nothing.

I think most people already knew that though. The atomic bomb used on Hiroshima is still way bigger than the ones used in WiC and even supcom.(Although if someone in supcom wanted to they could probably mod the nuke so that its destruction distance was as much as those bombs)

WiC's nuke is by far the best I've seen in a game even though it's smaller than supcom's.

Yea but the 100Mt version of Tsar Bomba is 6500 times the force of the bomb used on Hiroshima. Hard to imagine that.Still....you gotta admit this topic has some pretty interesting facts.

If that thing was ever used, it would be able to take out at least a big country if not more.  

Hey DarkRecruit, can you add a link to your reference, please.Smudge_Smill

There's alot, just googled them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_bomba

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html

http://www.vce.com/tsar.html

http://www.nonk.info/cool_pictures/cool_pictures/biggest_bomb_in_history_tsar_bomba.php

http://www.atomicforum.org/russia/tsarbomba.html

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=214

To be fair to SupCom (though maybe not WiC) we can't mount anything near that size on a ballistic missle. The Peacemaker ICBM (the one we use right now) only carries a 300 KT warhead. Sure it's enough to level any good sized city, but it certainly isn't the size of the 50 MT warhead the Russians tested. The Trident warhead is MIRV and has a total warhead strength of 450 KT. So basically, while Supcom's nukes are only about the same force as WWII era bombs, we really can only mount nukes with 10x that strength right now.

Many of the "facts" in this topic seem more than a little off.

Fission bombs are kiloton bombs only the United States has ever tested a megaton weapon.

The Bikini Island Bomb Test was conducted at Bikini Island and that was the first test of a fusion 100 MT weapon.

Fission bombs can't produce megaton yields only a fusion weapon can do that

It won't surprise me at all if there was no public record of the U.S. Megaton weapon test.  The U.S Military usually doesn't announce that it has a new weapon until usually 20 years afterward.  The military has weapons now most people won't find out about until 2025, or if WWIII.

My Dad was in the U.S. Airforce and he told me after the gulf war that the U.S. had developed cruise missiles in the late 1970's after the Vietnam Conflict.  G.P.S. is something the military had for decades before anyone knew about.

On a separate note I don't know if any information about Russian Tech is reliable.  If you believe that they had fusion weapons maybe you would believe that the Russians also developed microwave radiation assualt rifle.  Personally I do believe they developed MARs, because the Russians sold them after the Cold War ended and somehow the Asian Triads got their hands on them.  Few years ago their was news story about a shoot out in Taiwan for some reason the bodies were scorched and the cars nearby were radioactive.

Yea but the 100Mt version of Tsar Bomba is 6500 times the force of the bomb used on Hiroshima. Hard to imagine that.Still....you gotta admit this topic has some pretty interesting facts.

DarkRecruit

If the force of the 100 Mt bomb was 6500 times more then the radius of the affected area would be 80 times more. Though area affected will be tremendous.

[QUOTE="DarkRecruit"]

[QUOTE="onemic"]If those nukes were ever used the whole map and then some would be destroyed, thus making that type of bomb useless in supcom and in WiC. onemic

I know...I'm just saying that the nukes you guys are impressed about in SupCom are really nothing.

differnce between Hiroshima and SupCom is that Hiroshima was a REAL EVENT...and SupCom is a GAME.....people these day cant tell the difference from virual things and the real world 

I think most people already knew that though. The atomic bomb used on Hiroshima is still way bigger than the ones used in WiC and even supcom.(Although if someone in supcom wanted to they could probably mod the nuke so that its destruction distance was as much as those bombs)

WiC's nuke is by far the best I've seen in a game even though it's smaller than supcom's.

When it comes to military secrecy, it flipped both ways during the Cold War.

At first the U.S. made sure that the Soviets knew they were developing bigger and better bombs.

Around 1980 though, things changed.  The military brass started to think that if the Soviets knew how easily we could wipe them out, they might get desperate and start WWIII before the technology gap got any wider.  There were many weapons like cruise missiles, and other satelite tech no one knew about til the Persian Gulf War.

According to former Secretay of Defense Robert McNamara the US tested a 100 MT H-Bomb. He said that in his documentary called Fog of War. And I think he also said that he knows the US tested it because he was there. I think it must have been used in the atompshere. For some reason there is no record of this.theonethatis981

Where did they test this? A test of a 100Mt bomb would have tremendous effects, the force of the blast would have made the nucleur fallout radius giagantic. 

Fission bombs are kiloton bombs only the United States has ever tested a megaton weapon.

That's so wrong. Many countries have tested nucleur weapons.

The Bikini Island Bomb Test was conducted at Bikini Island and that was the first test of a fusion 100 MT weapon.

100MT tests? You're joking right? "A 10.4 megaton bomb was exploded on 1 November 1952 at Enewatak, west of Bikini." http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/1/newsid_2781000/2781419.stm

Fission bombs can't produce megaton yields only a fusion weapon can do that

EVERY nucleur bomb has a TNT equivalent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaton

It won't surprise me at all if there was no public record of the U.S. Megaton weapon test. The U.S Military usually doesn't announce that it has a new weapon until usually 20 years afterward. The military has weapons now most people won't find out about until 2025, or if WWIII.

So....where did they test this? The whole world would know if a 100Mt nucleur bomb was detonated because of the seismic waves that would go around the earth.

On a separate note I don't know if any information about Russian Tech is reliable. If you believe that they had fusion weapons maybe you would believe that the Russians also developed microwave radiation assualt rifle. Personally I do believe they developed MARs, because the Russians sold them after the Cold War ended and somehow the Asian Triads got their hands on them. Few years ago their was news story about a shoot out in Taiwan for some reason the bodies were scorched and the cars nearby were radioactive.

"The Tsar Bomba was a three-stage hydrogen bomb. A three-stage H-bomb uses a fission bomb primary to compress a thermonuclear secondary, as in most H-bombs, and then uses energy from the resulting explosion to compress a much larger additional thermonuclear stage (although there is evidence that the Tsar Bomba had a number of third stages rather than a single very large one)."

Check my references maybe? The bigggest bomb the US has ever made is 25Mt. This is 100Mt.

using tzar-like nukes become useless in games unless the game's actual scale is world-wide, which is kind of hard to do given that 80x80mile supcom maps already lag the hell out of core 2 duos.

i like the strategic nukes in WIC and supcom, if you're gonna complain about nukes being tiny, go look at the ones in starcraft 2 (granted the game doesnt have realistic art direction)

Well, I think youre missing the point, specifically in WiC.

There are two types of nuclear ordinance.  First, there are strategic payloads.  These include the "King of Bombs" and other large-scale nukes that are intended to take out cities, counties, and large areas of land.

Second, and more relevant to WiC, there are the tactical nukes.  These are used to take out targets the size of a very large battlefield.  And after all, if the Soviets were invading the US the last thing they want to do is drop a huge freaking bomb; why bother invading a city when its vaporized and there is a fallout risk to your troops, neh?

I agree, however, the nukes in SupCom (and their visual appearance) were extremely disappointing: no mushroom cloud, now expanding area of devastation....just a ball of ugly white and a little bit of wobble on the screen.

multiple warhead missiles aren't only on the US side, and thats why DARPA and whoever is involved in creating a missile defense system is scrambling with all kinds of ideas, mostly light-emitting chemical reaction weapons such as the one used on the YAL-1A (although the latter is used to shoot down missiles upon launch in a close battlefield).

The same concept has been proved to work on the ground by israelis by having the system shoot down katyusha unguided rockets, kind of like a land based CIWS system.

also i know the US is researching into a space based or very high altitude defense system which uses brute kinetic force to intercept ballistic missiles before they reach their apex, the speed of the two objects is so great, no detonation is required and the missile simply melts under heat. 

I believe that I heard that the US tested the 100 megaton bomb in the atmosphere. Not sure on that. Watch Fog of War. It talked a little about it but, not much was said though. And you have to remember there are weapons he had back then that we still dont know about and the ones he have now we wont hear about for quite awhile.theonethatis981

Why did you post the exact same thing again when I already replied to it? They were 10-15 Mt tests. "A 10.4 megaton bomb was exploded on 1 November 1952 at Enewatak, west of Bikini." http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/1/newsid_2781000/2781419.stm

ROFL seen those Garrys mod Nukes?

There AMAZING.

Check em out on YouTube.

Some of the eniroment damage they cause is amazing. - Blowing apart houses ect. Just like the real thing :P 

Many of the "facts" in this topic seem more than a little off.

Fission bombs are kiloton bombs only the United States has ever tested a megaton weapon.

The Bikini Island Bomb Test was conducted at Bikini Island and that was the first test of a fusion 100 MT weapon.

Fission bombs can't produce megaton yields only a fusion weapon can do that

It won't surprise me at all if there was no public record of the U.S. Megaton weapon test.  The U.S Military usually doesn't announce that it has a new weapon until usually 20 years afterward.  The military has weapons now most people won't find out about until 2025, or if WWIII.

My Dad was in the U.S. Airforce and he told me after the gulf war that the U.S. had developed cruise missiles in the late 1970's after the Vietnam Conflict.  G.P.S. is something the military had for decades before anyone knew about.

On a separate note I don't know if any information about Russian Tech is reliable.  If you believe that they had fusion weapons maybe you would believe that the Russians also developed microwave radiation assualt rifle.  Personally I do believe they developed MARs, because the Russians sold them after the Cold War ended and somehow the Asian Triads got their hands on them.  Few years ago their was news story about a shoot out in Taiwan for some reason the bodies were scorched and the cars nearby were radioactive.

neondarkness

THats very true.  Just look at the F117 stealth fighter.  I was in development since the mid-80s and we didnt hear about it until after the Gulf War.

I wouldnt be suprised if we have more than a few F22 squadrons flying around Iran and Iraq right now.

Wow.. thats sick... Whats up with them? Why the hell are they producing this kind of stuffs? =/ Seriously..I hope they never will be used.   I bet the world will be destroyed soon enough.. Something will trigger a war, someone uses a nuke and the other start to respond and then several other countries start to use them too :O

Russia and America scares me =( I bet someone of them will mess up the world someday.

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="DarkRecruit"]

[QUOTE="onemic"]If those nukes were ever used the whole map and then some would be destroyed, thus making that type of bomb useless in supcom and in WiC. DarkRecruit

I know...I'm just saying that the nukes you guys are impressed about in SupCom are really nothing.

I think most people already knew that though. The atomic bomb used on Hiroshima is still way bigger than the ones used in WiC and even supcom.(Although if someone in supcom wanted to they could probably mod the nuke so that its destruction distance was as much as those bombs)

WiC's nuke is by far the best I've seen in a game even though it's smaller than supcom's.

Yea but the 100Mt version of Tsar Bomba is 6500 times the force of the bomb used on Hiroshima. Hard to imagine that.Still....you gotta admit this topic has some pretty interesting facts.

[QUOTE="DarkRecruit"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="DarkRecruit"]

[QUOTE="onemic"]If those nukes were ever used the whole map and then some would be destroyed, thus making that type of bomb useless in supcom and in WiC. onemic

I know...I'm just saying that the nukes you guys are impressed about in SupCom are really nothing.

I think most people already knew that though. The atomic bomb used on Hiroshima is still way bigger than the ones used in WiC and even supcom.(Although if someone in supcom wanted to they could probably mod the nuke so that its destruction distance was as much as those bombs)

WiC's nuke is by far the best I've seen in a game even though it's smaller than supcom's.

Yea but the 100Mt version of Tsar Bomba is 6500 times the force of the bomb used on Hiroshima. Hard to imagine that.Still....you gotta admit this topic has some pretty interesting facts.

If that thing was ever used, it would be able to take out at least a big country if not more.

You are correct.  A bomb that size would destroy about 42,000 square feet if tetonated on a relatively flat lay of land.  Anything within about 15 miles from ground zero would cease to exist in under 30 seconds after the blast.  The fallout would be far reaching and depending on the wind and relative location to an ocean the radiological effects would be massive and felt world wide.  The 100 MT hydrogen bomb is a dooms day weapon.  It was designed as a mutual destruction weapon during the cold war.  Scary thing is that we literally have thousands of these in our arsenal and the Russians still have hundreds of similar style bombs. 

DarkRecruit was not referrring to the Bikini tests dude. I already knew about them. I have books on all the USSR and US tests. OF course it does not show the 100 megaton bomb tested by the US in those books. I was just making a point that I heard that one was tested by the US that was 100 megatons, unless Robert messed up in what he was saying and that he was referrring to the Bikini test.theonethatis981

Dude, a 100MT bomb is immposible to test secretly. And there is NO WHERE in the world that is a safe testing site for 100 megatons of force. The 50 Mt Tsar bomb : The seismic shock created by the detonation was measurable even on its third passage around the Earth.Imagine a 100Mt test. The WHOLE world would know. 100Mt of force would push nuclear fallout big enough atleast an area the size of US. 

You are correct. A bomb that size would destroy about 42,000 square feet if tetonated on a relatively flat lay of land. Anything within about 15 miles from ground zero would cease to exist in under 30 seconds after the blast. The fallout would be far reaching and depending on the wind and relative location to an ocean the radiological effects would be massive and felt world wide. The 100 MT hydrogen bomb is a dooms day weapon. It was designed as a mutual destruction weapon during the cold war. Scary thing is that we literally have thousands of these in our arsenal and the Russians still have hundreds of similar style bombs.

MadExponent

42000 square feet? That's only 8 square miles. This is MUCH bigger then that. It gave 3rd degree burns from 100Km away. And that the 50Mt version. Imagine the 100Mt version. 3rd degree burns from 200Km away? 

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

You are correct. A bomb that size would destroy about 42,000 square feet if tetonated on a relatively flat lay of land. Anything within about 15 miles from ground zero would cease to exist in under 30 seconds after the blast. The fallout would be far reaching and depending on the wind and relative location to an ocean the radiological effects would be massive and felt world wide. The 100 MT hydrogen bomb is a dooms day weapon. It was designed as a mutual destruction weapon during the cold war. Scary thing is that we literally have thousands of these in our arsenal and the Russians still have hundreds of similar style bombs.

DarkRecruit

42000 square feet? That's only 8 square miles. This is MUCH bigger then that. It gave 3rd degree burns from 100Km away. And that the 50Mt version. Imagine the 100Mt version. 3rd degree burns from 200Km away?

42,000 sq ft is correct.  Anything within that radius would be completely destroyed.  When I say that I mean complete inihilation.  That means scorched earth.  Only thing left would be mangled iron and steel.  Past that the shockwave would shatter skulls and collapse lungs.  There is also a heat shockwave that would melt the skin and turn bodies to ash.  You are right about the third degree burns, however that is from the heat shockwave as it moves further from ground zero.  At 200 kilometers you would probably be able to withstand the heat if you were inside a building.  Once the initial blast has past you could attempt to escape the fallout, but you would have to be VERY fast.  You would need a vehicle.  Contrary to what movies have shown the fallout from a blast of this magnitude moves very fast and nuclear material in the upper atmosphere would rain down for hundred of miles.  

multiple warhead missiles aren't only on the US side, and thats why DARPA and whoever is involved in creating a missile defense system is scrambling with all kinds of ideas, mostly light-emitting chemical reaction weapons such as the one used on the YAL-1A (although the latter is used to shoot down missiles upon launch in a close battlefield).

The same concept has been proved to work on the ground by israelis by having the system shoot down katyusha unguided rockets, kind of like a land based CIWS system.

also i know the US is researching into a space based or very high altitude defense system which uses brute kinetic force to intercept ballistic missiles before they reach their apex, the speed of the two objects is so great, no detonation is required and the missile simply melts under heat.

WARxSnake

42,000 sq ft is correct. Anything within that radius would be completely destroyed. When I say that I mean complete inihilation. That means scorched earth. Only thing left would be mangled iron and steel. Past that the shockwave would shatter skulls and collapse lungs. There is also a heat shockwave that would melt the skin and turn bodies to ash. You are right about the third degree burns, however that is from the heat shockwave as it moves further from ground zero. At 200 kilometers you would probably be able to withstand the heat if you were inside a building. Once the initial blast has past you could attempt to escape the fallout, but you would have to be VERY fast. You would need a vehicle. Contrary to what movies have shown the fallout from a blast of this magnitude moves very fast and nuclear material in the upper atmosphere would rain down for hundred of miles.

MadExponent

It would be imposible to escape the fallout if you're only 200Km away from ground zero. "The effect of this bomb at full yield on global fallout would have been tremendous. It would have increased the world's total fission fallout since the invention of the atomic bomb by 25%." So it would increase worldwide fallout by 25% in the air globaly. The 100Mt version is 2% the power of the sun. "Since 50 Mt is 2.1×10^17 joules, the average power produced during the entire fission-fusion process, lasting around 39 nanoseconds, was a power of about 5.4×10^24 watts or 5.4 yottawatts. This is equivalent to approximately 1% of the power output of the Sun."Double that for 100Mt that's 2% the power of the sun. It's 6500 times stronger then the bombs used on Japan. That force would push fallout extremely fast huge distances.

"On a much grander scale, supernova explosions give off about 10^44 Joules of energy, which is about ten octillion (10^28 ) megatons of TNT."

bigger nukes wouldn't work to well in games like Command & Conquer 3 so if you want bigger nukes you would probably only find them in games like Defcon.

since when did this topic become a science lesson?...stop it already 

bigger nukes wouldn't work to well in games like Command & Conquer 3 so if you want bigger nukes you would probably only find them in games like Defcon.

 

since when did this topic become a science lesson?...stop it already

mattisgod01

If it bothers you, leave. No one forced you to post in this thread.  

[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

42,000 sq ft is correct. Anything within that radius would be completely destroyed. When I say that I mean complete inihilation. That means scorched earth. Only thing left would be mangled iron and steel. Past that the shockwave would shatter skulls and collapse lungs. There is also a heat shockwave that would melt the skin and turn bodies to ash. You are right about the third degree burns, however that is from the heat shockwave as it moves further from ground zero. At 200 kilometers you would probably be able to withstand the heat if you were inside a building. Once the initial blast has past you could attempt to escape the fallout, but you would have to be VERY fast. You would need a vehicle. Contrary to what movies have shown the fallout from a blast of this magnitude moves very fast and nuclear material in the upper atmosphere would rain down for hundred of miles.

DarkRecruit

It would be imposible to escape the fallout if you're only 200Km away from ground zero. "The effect of this bomb at full yield on global fallout would have been tremendous. It would have increased the world's total fission fallout since the invention of the atomic bomb by 25%." So it would increase worldwide fallout by 25% in the air globaly. The 100Mt version is 2% the power of the sun. "Since 50 Mt is 2.1×10^17 joules, the average power produced during the entire fission-fusion process, lasting around 39 nanoseconds, was a power of about 5.4×10^24 watts or 5.4 yottawatts. This is equivalent to approximately 1% of the power output of the Sun."Double that for 100Mt that's 2% the power of the sun. It's 6500 times stronger then the bombs used on Japan. That force would push fallout extremely fast huge distances.

"On a much grander scale, supernova explosions give off about 10^44 Joules of energy, which is about ten octillion (10^28 ) megatons of TNT."

I really wonder what affect a 1 yottaton nuke would have on the world. Any guesses?

[QUOTE="DarkRecruit"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

42,000 sq ft is correct. Anything within that radius would be completely destroyed. When I say that I mean complete inihilation. That means scorched earth. Only thing left would be mangled iron and steel. Past that the shockwave would shatter skulls and collapse lungs. There is also a heat shockwave that would melt the skin and turn bodies to ash. You are right about the third degree burns, however that is from the heat shockwave as it moves further from ground zero. At 200 kilometers you would probably be able to withstand the heat if you were inside a building. Once the initial blast has past you could attempt to escape the fallout, but you would have to be VERY fast. You would need a vehicle. Contrary to what movies have shown the fallout from a blast of this magnitude moves very fast and nuclear material in the upper atmosphere would rain down for hundred of miles.

onemic

It would be imposible to escape the fallout if you're only 200Km away from ground zero. "The effect of this bomb at full yield on global fallout would have been tremendous. It would have increased the world's total fission fallout since the invention of the atomic bomb by 25%." So it would increase worldwide fallout by 25% in the air globaly. The 100Mt version is 2% the power of the sun. "Since 50 Mt is 2.1×10^17 joules, the average power produced during the entire fission-fusion process, lasting around 39 nanoseconds, was a power of about 5.4×10^24 watts or 5.4 yottawatts. This is equivalent to approximately 1% of the power output of the Sun."Double that for 100Mt that's 2% the power of the sun. It's 6500 times stronger then the bombs used on Japan. That force would push fallout extremely fast huge distances.

"On a much grander scale, supernova explosions give off about 10^44 Joules of energy, which is about ten octillion (10^28 ) megatons of TNT."

I really wonder what affect a 1 yottaton nuke would have on the world. Any guesses?

Lol it's you from the WiC forums.

KT = Kiloton = 1000 Tons of TNT
MT = Megaton = 1000 Kilotons
GT = Gigaton = 1000 Megatons
TT = Teraton = 1000 Gigatons
PT = Petaton = 1000 Teratons
ET = Exaton = 1000 Petatons
ZT = Zettaton = 1000 Exatons
YT = Yottaton = 1000 Zettatons

Well supernovas give off about 10^44 Joules of energy, which is about ten octillion (10^28 ) megatons of TNT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaton). That's 10000000000000000000000000000 megatons. That's 10000000000 yottatons. Just to compare.

EDIT: stupid smilies 

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="DarkRecruit"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

42,000 sq ft is correct. Anything within that radius would be completely destroyed. When I say that I mean complete inihilation. That means scorched earth. Only thing left would be mangled iron and steel. Past that the shockwave would shatter skulls and collapse lungs. There is also a heat shockwave that would melt the skin and turn bodies to ash. You are right about the third degree burns, however that is from the heat shockwave as it moves further from ground zero. At 200 kilometers you would probably be able to withstand the heat if you were inside a building. Once the initial blast has past you could attempt to escape the fallout, but you would have to be VERY fast. You would need a vehicle. Contrary to what movies have shown the fallout from a blast of this magnitude moves very fast and nuclear material in the upper atmosphere would rain down for hundred of miles.

DarkRecruit

It would be imposible to escape the fallout if you're only 200Km away from ground zero. "The effect of this bomb at full yield on global fallout would have been tremendous. It would have increased the world's total fission fallout since the invention of the atomic bomb by 25%." So it would increase worldwide fallout by 25% in the air globaly. The 100Mt version is 2% the power of the sun. "Since 50 Mt is 2.1×10^17 joules, the average power produced during the entire fission-fusion process, lasting around 39 nanoseconds, was a power of about 5.4×10^24 watts or 5.4 yottawatts. This is equivalent to approximately 1% of the power output of the Sun."Double that for 100Mt that's 2% the power of the sun. It's 6500 times stronger then the bombs used on Japan. That force would push fallout extremely fast huge distances.

"On a much grander scale, supernova explosions give off about 10^44 Joules of energy, which is about ten octillion (10^28 ) megatons of TNT."

I really wonder what affect a 1 yottaton nuke would have on the world. Any guesses?

Lol it's you from the WiC forums.

KT = Kiloton = 1000 Tons of TNT
MT = Megaton = 1000 Kilotons
GT = Gigaton = 1000 Megatons
TT = Teraton = 1000 Gigatons
PT = Petaton = 1000 Teratons
ET = Exaton = 1000 Petatons
ZT = Zettaton = 1000 Exatons
YT = Yottaton = 1000 Zettatons

Well supernovas give off about 10^44 Joules of energy, which is about ten octillion (10^28 ) megatons of TNT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaton). That's 10000000000000000000000000000 megatons. That's 10000000000 yottatons. Just to compare.

EDIT: stupid smilies

So exactly what would a 1 yottaton nuke do? Blow up all of earth and then some?

And yes it's me from the WiC beta forum:D what's your username there?  Is it the same as it is here? Also what rank are you at right now?