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#1 Blackfallen
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okay so i put the cards in sli and i get decent fps but i saw crysis warhead kinda went down ...... and my cards are 8800 gs and when i try to overclock in ati tools or even rivatuner it saw there is no grapghics driver yet i unistalled and reinstall 190 nvida drivers over ten times..... what could be the prob????

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OCing with ATIs soft with nvidia hardware? ...wow.
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okay so i put the cards in sli and i get decent fps but i saw crysis warhead kinda went down ...... and my cards are 8800 gs and when i try to overclock in ati tools or even rivatuner it saw there is no grapghics driver yet i unistalled and reinstall 190 nvida drivers over ten times..... what could be the prob????

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Does your motherboard support SLI? Maybe it only supports Crossfire....? Just an idea. If your motherboard does support SLI, did you enable SLI Mode in the Nvidia Control Panel? Also be sure that you connected both video cards with the SLI bridge. Also, with the newest video drivers out, ATItool and Rivatuner might not recognize it yet....though I could be mistaken.
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#4 Blackfallen
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okay first of all you oc with ati tools buddy and secondly i have enabled sli in the nvidia control panel i will list my specs to you. Another thing though i tried riva tuner with 185 and 186 same thing.

Specs
AMD Phenom x3 at 3.7 ghz
OCZ 4gb Platinum 800 mhz
Asus M4n82 980a tri sli board
OCZ ModXstream 600watts with 50 amps
Creative X-fi Fatality Edition
NZXT Tempest
Thermaltake V1 cpu cooler 160 gb and 640 gb harddrive
Cards are XFX 8800gs and Asus 8800gs

I just ran crysis warhead with single card on gamer/enthusiast at 37 fps but when i put in sli i get 24-25 even goes to 19. I also checked it doesnt recognize drivers when either card is by itself in the system no matter what card configuration

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Hmm, maybe you should try reinstalling your OS, and then install nvidia drivers with cards on SLI.
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OCing with ATIs soft with nvidia hardware? ...wow.metroid5
ATI Tools can be used with Nivida cards.
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#7 Ravenscythe
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What os are you using?

I'v heard of crysis running slower with crossfire thx to crytek being lazy bastards, but generally sli works well in it. Make sure that sli is on in your bios aswell.

Edit : Also try downloading gpu-z from techpowerup, its a good little tool and might give you some more info.

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#8 Blackfallen
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i have vista 32 bit and how do i set sli in bios ?????

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okay first of all you oc with ati tools buddy and secondly i have enabled sli in the nvidia control panel i will list my specs to you. Another thing though i tried riva tuner with 185 and 186 same thing.

Specs
AMD Phenom x3 at 3.7 ghz
OCZ 4gb Platinum 800 mhz
Asus M4n82 980a tri sli board
OCZ ModXstream 600watts with 50 amps
Creative X-fi Fatality Edition
NZXT Tempest
Thermaltake V1 cpu cooler 160 gb and 640 gb harddrive
Cards are XFX 8800gs and Asus 8800gs

I just ran crysis warhead with single card on gamer/enthusiast at 37 fps but when i put in sli i get 24-25 even goes to 19. I also checked it doesnt recognize drivers when either card is by itself in the system no matter what card configuration

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This sounds kind of obvious, but did you consult your MB manual to make sure you're setting up SLI correctly? I've got an ASRock K10N780SLIX3-WiFi motherboard and I have to set the jumper on the board between the main PCI-E x16 slot and the second one to run both cards at a true x16/x16. Otherwise if I don't change the jumper, the PCI-E x16 slots run at a x16/x8/x8. You don't have a jumper you need to set or anything like that, do you?

If that's not the case, then we'll start from the beginning.

Is this computer a completely new build? Or were you running with one of these 8800GS cards for a while and you just recently picked up a second on for SLI?

Have you updated the BIOS on your motherboard? Sometimes there are boards out there that are designed for SLI/Crossfire, but upon shipping the BIOS has issues recognizing the SLI/Crossfire setups so they patch the BIOS and set out updates for people to use, so you could look into that.

When I first got my ASRock motherboard, the northbridge on it wasn't working correctly - I couldn't get any video driver to install or if it did install, my computer would lock up about 10 seconds after booting into Windows OR the video cards were not being recognized correctly. I had to get a new board and now everything works perfect.

Just ideas here....what else....

Nvidia driver 182.50 worked the best for my SLI setup, you might want to try that one. Drivers 185.xx and 186.xx caused me problems. So far the newest 190.xx driver is working good. Not all video drivers will run things correctly for all computer configurations - you might have to try a few more older ones and see if solves your problem.

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#10 Blackfallen
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[QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

okay first of all you oc with ati tools buddy and secondly i have enabled sli in the nvidia control panel i will list my specs to you. Another thing though i tried riva tuner with 185 and 186 same thing.

Specs
AMD Phenom x3 at 3.7 ghz
OCZ 4gb Platinum 800 mhz
Asus M4n82 980a tri sli board
OCZ ModXstream 600watts with 50 amps
Creative X-fi Fatality Edition
NZXT Tempest
Thermaltake V1 cpu cooler 160 gb and 640 gb harddrive
Cards are XFX 8800gs and Asus 8800gs

I just ran crysis warhead with single card on gamer/enthusiast at 37 fps but when i put in sli i get 24-25 even goes to 19. I also checked it doesnt recognize drivers when either card is by itself in the system no matter what card configuration

neatfeatguy

This sounds kind of obvious, but did you consult your MB manual to make sure you're setting up SLI correctly? I've got an ASRock K10N780SLIX3-WiFi motherboard and I have to set the jumper on the board between the main PCI-E x16 slot and the second one to run both cards at a true x16/x16. Otherwise if I don't change the jumper, the PCI-E x16 slots run at a x16/x8/x8. You don't have a jumper you need to set or anything like that, do you?

If that's not the case, then we'll start from the beginning.

Is this computer a completely new build? Or were you running with one of these 8800GS cards for a while and you just recently picked up a second on for SLI?

Have you updated the BIOS on your motherboard? Sometimes there are boards out there that are designed for SLI/Crossfire, but upon shipping the BIOS has issues recognizing the SLI/Crossfire setups so they patch the BIOS and set out updates for people to use, so you could look into that.

When I first got my ASRock motherboard, the northbridge on it wasn't working correctly - I couldn't get any video driver to install or if it did install, my computer would lock up about 10 seconds after booting into Windows OR the video cards were not being recognized correctly. I had to get a new board and now everything works perfect.

Just ideas here....what else....

Nvidia driver 182.50 worked the best for my SLI setup, you might want to try that one. Drivers 185.xx and 186.xx caused me problems. So far the newest 190.xx driver is working good. Not all video drivers will run things correctly for all computer configurations - you might have to try a few more older ones and see if solves your problem.



alright so what happend is i had a previous sli build and for my birthday i bought a new cpu, motherboard, and case so i transerfered everything over. my old cpu was bottlenecking the card so i got performance boost. so once i put everything in my comp would shut off so i replaced the coolermaster 550 extreme that had 32 amps for the OCZ ModXstream with 50 amps well it became really stable but i still had the driver issue. in fact i have been having this prob for months and now its driving me crazy.

But the weird thing is with my old comp i had about 8000 3d mark 06 points that was with an amd 6000 and the sli 8800gs's now i get 15.5 k which seems right but i get poor performance on crysis and cant overclock :S and reading the manualthere is no jumper for sli it just says to use the first slot and the thrid slot for sli to give 16x/16x i have used asus updates too and everything is up to date

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#11 Blackfallen
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okay so playing with my asus 8800gs i was playing crysis around 35 fps on everything high besides shaders, game effects , partical effect on very high and i got into a big firefight then i got a black screen went to the desktop and said the nvidia drivers failed and had just recovered :s

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#12 Ravenscythe
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Just a thought but did you run driver sweeper when re-installing your drivers? And if so, do you unisntall -> sweep -> reboot -> sweep -> install new ones?

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alright so what happend is i had a previous sli build and for my birthday i bought a new cpu, motherboard, and case so i transerfered everything over. my old cpu was bottlenecking the card so i got performance boost. so once i put everything in my comp would shut off so i replaced the coolermaster 550 extreme that had 32 amps for the OCZ ModXstream with 50 amps well it became really stable but i still had the driver issue. in fact i have been having this prob for months and now its driving me crazy.

But the weird thing is with my old comp i had about 8000 3d mark 06 points that was with an amd 6000 and the sli 8800gs's now i get 15.5 k which seems right but i get poor performance on crysis and cant overclock :S and reading the manualthere is no jumper for sli it just says to use the first slot and the thrid slot for sli to give 16x/16x i have used asus updates too and everything is up to date

Blackfallen

Did you do a reformat and fresh install of Windows when you swapped out your old CPU/MB and put the new ones in? If you did, then you should be ok. But if you didn't, then you could be having conflicting issues from old drivers/files and such from your old hardware.

Sometimes you can get away with not reformating and things will run fine, but for the most part you get issues. 2 out of the 5 times I swapped out MBs I got away with not having to reformat and reinstalling Windows - the other 3 times I would get BSODs upon booting into Windows or I would get lots of random crashes and lockups. It's just less of a hassle for me now to just do a complete wipe and start fresh on the HDD.

If you need to do this, backup any important info you need first - most people know this, but I like to say it anyways so no problems arise.

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#14 Blackfallen
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[QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

alright so what happend is i had a previous sli build and for my birthday i bought a new cpu, motherboard, and case so i transerfered everything over. my old cpu was bottlenecking the card so i got performance boost. so once i put everything in my comp would shut off so i replaced the coolermaster 550 extreme that had 32 amps for the OCZ ModXstream with 50 amps well it became really stable but i still had the driver issue. in fact i have been having this prob for months and now its driving me crazy.

But the weird thing is with my old comp i had about 8000 3d mark 06 points that was with an amd 6000 and the sli 8800gs's now i get 15.5 k which seems right but i get poor performance on crysis and cant overclock :S and reading the manualthere is no jumper for sli it just says to use the first slot and the thrid slot for sli to give 16x/16x i have used asus updates too and everything is up to date

neatfeatguy

Did you do a reformat and fresh install of Windows when you swapped out your old CPU/MB and put the new ones in? If you did, then you should be ok. But if you didn't, then you could be having conflicting issues from old drivers/files and such from your old hardware.

Sometimes you can get away with not reformating and things will run fine, but for the most part you get issues. 2 out of the 5 times I swapped out MBs I got away with not having to reformat and reinstalling Windows - the other 3 times I would get BSODs upon booting into Windows or I would get lots of random crashes and lockups. It's just less of a hassle for me now to just do a complete wipe and start fresh on the HDD.

If you need to do this, backup any important info you need first - most people know this, but I like to say it anyways so no problems arise.

okay i was not able to reformat the hardrive that contains windows it wouldnt let me see windows was installed so how do i do then i will do a freash install of windows right now but also where can i get a driver sweeper?????

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#15 neatfeatguy
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[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"]

[QUOTE="Blackfallen"]

alright so what happend is i had a previous sli build and for my birthday i bought a new cpu, motherboard, and case so i transerfered everything over. my old cpu was bottlenecking the card so i got performance boost. so once i put everything in my comp would shut off so i replaced the coolermaster 550 extreme that had 32 amps for the OCZ ModXstream with 50 amps well it became really stable but i still had the driver issue. in fact i have been having this prob for months and now its driving me crazy.

But the weird thing is with my old comp i had about 8000 3d mark 06 points that was with an amd 6000 and the sli 8800gs's now i get 15.5 k which seems right but i get poor performance on crysis and cant overclock :S and reading the manualthere is no jumper for sli it just says to use the first slot and the thrid slot for sli to give 16x/16x i have used asus updates too and everything is up to date

Blackfallen

Did you do a reformat and fresh install of Windows when you swapped out your old CPU/MB and put the new ones in? If you did, then you should be ok. But if you didn't, then you could be having conflicting issues from old drivers/files and such from your old hardware.

Sometimes you can get away with not reformating and things will run fine, but for the most part you get issues. 2 out of the 5 times I swapped out MBs I got away with not having to reformat and reinstalling Windows - the other 3 times I would get BSODs upon booting into Windows or I would get lots of random crashes and lockups. It's just less of a hassle for me now to just do a complete wipe and start fresh on the HDD.

If you need to do this, backup any important info you need first - most people know this, but I like to say it anyways so no problems arise.

okay i was not able to reformat the hardrive that contains windows it wouldnt let me see windows was installed so how do i do then i will do a freash install of windows right now but also where can i get a driver sweeper?????

Do a search on google for "how to reformat hard drive" or "how to reinstall windows " (example: how to reinstall windows vista). There are many useful sites out there that list step by step instructions you need to follow.
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#16 Blackfallen
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okay so i ended up formatting both hard rrives and reinstalling windows. i install all the drivers again i install the nvidia 190 and i get the same problem so it couldnt be conflicting drivers. so i uninstall and go to 185 still same problem and when i try to enable sli it would lower the resolution and then say i have no graphics drivers installed. my cards are listed in the control planel as standard vga graphics when i installed the drivers :S. so i unistall them the driver in control panel.then i decided to install the drivers that came with the cards. They are the old 169 drivers... and what really confuses me is they work... they are recognized in riva tuner and are stable and i can enable sli. so what do you guys think could be the problem now???