What can I upgrade to get 40-45fps on Far Cry 3?

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#1 frankopan
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Hi guys, I got FC 3 yesterday and I'm loving it so far. This is my rig: quadcore q8200 2.33 ghz, 4 gb ram, and a Geforce GTX 650.

I can only run it on medium and get an average of 30 fps. What components can I upgrade to get a comfortable 40 fps at high settings. I also play gw2 so it will help out there too. THank you.

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#2 C_Rule
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First thing I would do is try overclocking that CPU to 3GHz+. What motherboard do you have? Another 4GB of RAM would also likely help.
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#3 frankopan
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My motherboard isn't top of the line so I don't think there is much room to maneuver tbh. I like idea of getting more ram.

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#4 mrmarrero
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Replacing that GTX650 wouldn't hurt, but tbh, we could give better advice if we knew what resolution you are playing at.

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#5 C_Rule
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My motherboard isn't top of the line so I don't think there is much room to maneuver tbh. I like idea of getting more ram.

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I just looked up benchmarks for the 650, it's much slower than I thought. If you want to run FC3 and GW2 at high with a good framerate, you'll need new CPU and GPU, which means new nearly everything (motherboard, memory, maybe PSU). 3570K and a 660 Ti or 7950 would be a good place to start.
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[QUOTE="frankopan"]

My motherboard isn't top of the line so I don't think there is much room to maneuver tbh. I like idea of getting more ram.

C_Rule

I just looked up benchmarks for the 650, it's much slower than I thought. If you want to run FC3 and GW2 at high with a good framerate, you'll need new CPU and GPU, which means new nearly everything (motherboard, memory, maybe PSU). 3570K and a 660 Ti or 7950 would be a good place to start.

agreed the 650 is really holding you back, the cpu could really use an OC but if you cant then I agree replace it. GW2 is especially CPU heavy. >4GB of ram is also nice and all but do not expect that to really be upping your frames, people get excited by more ram idk why its cheap for a reason.

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#7 frankopan
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[QUOTE="frankopan"]

My motherboard isn't top of the line so I don't think there is much room to maneuver tbh. I like idea of getting more ram.

C_Rule
I just looked up benchmarks for the 650, it's much slower than I thought. If you want to run FC3 and GW2 at high with a good framerate, you'll need new CPU and GPU, which means new nearly everything (motherboard, memory, maybe PSU). 3570K and a 660 Ti or 7950 would be a good place to start.

Yea, I was hoping only one component change would drastically up the performance but that was just wishful thinking on my part. I currently have 1.5k dollars saved up for a new rig in June. Guess I'll just have to wait till then.
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="frankopan"]

My motherboard isn't top of the line so I don't think there is much room to maneuver tbh. I like idea of getting more ram.

frankopan
I just looked up benchmarks for the 650, it's much slower than I thought. If you want to run FC3 and GW2 at high with a good framerate, you'll need new CPU and GPU, which means new nearly everything (motherboard, memory, maybe PSU). 3570K and a 660 Ti or 7950 would be a good place to start.

Yea, I was hoping only one component change would drastically up the performance but that was just wishful thinking on my part. I currently have 1.5k dollars saved up for a new rig in June. Guess I'll just have to wait till then.

Buy a gpu now and move it to the new machine....
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#9 frankopan
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[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="frankopan"][QUOTE="C_Rule"] I just looked up benchmarks for the 650, it's much slower than I thought. If you want to run FC3 and GW2 at high with a good framerate, you'll need new CPU and GPU, which means new nearly everything (motherboard, memory, maybe PSU). 3570K and a 660 Ti or 7950 would be a good place to start.

Yea, I was hoping only one component change would drastically up the performance but that was just wishful thinking on my part. I currently have 1.5k dollars saved up for a new rig in June. Guess I'll just have to wait till then.

Buy a gpu now and move it to the new machine....

I wonder if the price of a 680 will fall by june? Should I just wait it out?
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It may, it may not. The new line up from amd and nvidia will most likely be out then too. But if you always wait You'll be waiting forever. Id just buy the card, enjoy the game and worry about the rest later. Overclock your cpu to 3Ghz.
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any mobo should be good enough to get that cpu to 2.8/3ghz as for the gpu id wait for the amd 8 series unless you specifically wont nividia

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Overclocking his CPU isnt going to magically make things better...even if you could hit 2.8Ghz or something with that CPU its not going to make things a whole lot better imo. The CPU is old, architecture is old, everything. Dont put anymore money into it, just wait till you can afford a better rig, no point pairing a newer card with that CPU even if you do manage to overclock it.
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As others suggested, try to overclock your CPU - if it doesn't help, at least you haven't spent any money. But if it does work, you should at least get a better framerate at the same settings you have now. Also try running the game with no AA,, SSAO, motion blur or vsync - at least if those are options - as those would be the most stressful on the computer. If you do use AA, then lower the resolution at least 1 notch.
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#14 frankopan
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As others suggested, try to overclock your CPU - if it doesn't help, at least you haven't spent any money. But if it does work, you should at least get a better framerate at the same settings you have now. Also try running the game with no AA,, SSAO, motion blur or vsync - at least if those are options - as those would be the most stressful on the computer. If you do use AA, then lower the resolution at least 1 notch.Stinger78

All great replies. I'll try clock the cpu and fiddle with more in game settings. This rig will hold out till june...

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Im running at 30-40 frames on maxed settings on my 570gtx, 3rd gen i-5 and 8 gigs of ram.

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[QUOTE="Stinger78"]As others suggested, try to overclock your CPU - if it doesn't help, at least you haven't spent any money. But if it does work, you should at least get a better framerate at the same settings you have now. Also try running the game with no AA,, SSAO, motion blur or vsync - at least if those are options - as those would be the most stressful on the computer. If you do use AA, then lower the resolution at least 1 notch.frankopan

All great replies. I'll try clock the cpu and fiddle with more in game settings. This rig will hold out till june...

Don't use any MSAA, thats the first thing you should drop if you have performance problems. MSAA is very demanding in games that use deferred rendering.

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#17 FelipeInside
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Hi guys, I got FC 3 yesterday and I'm loving it so far. This is my rig: quadcore q8200 2.33 ghz, 4 gb ram, and a Geforce GTX 650.

I can only run it on medium and get an average of 30 fps. What components can I upgrade to get a comfortable 40 fps at high settings. I also play gw2 so it will help out there too. THank you.

frankopan
Put it on DX9 and max it out.
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Overclocking his CPU isnt going to magically make things better...even if you could hit 2.8Ghz or something with that CPU its not going to make things a whole lot better imo. The CPU is old, architecture is old, everything. Dont put anymore money into it, just wait till you can afford a better rig, no point pairing a newer card with that CPU even if you do manage to overclock it.V4LENT1NE

This is bad advice IMO. Most Q8200's can hit 3ghz+ pretty easily, and that equals a big performance boost in most games. The 650 is weak. He will see a huge performance increase by OC'ing his CPU to 3ghz+ and pairing it with a GTX 660 Ti or better.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Overclocking his CPU isnt going to magically make things better...even if you could hit 2.8Ghz or something with that CPU its not going to make things a whole lot better imo. The CPU is old, architecture is old, everything. Dont put anymore money into it, just wait till you can afford a better rig, no point pairing a newer card with that CPU even if you do manage to overclock it.hartsickdiscipl

This is bad advice IMO. Most Q8200's can hit 3ghz+ pretty easily, and that equals a big performance boost in most games. The 650 is weak. He will see a huge performance increase by OC'ing his CPU to 3ghz+ and pairing it with a GTX 660 Ti or better.

To add to that, be careful with OC TC, with more Ghz comes more heat (and more instability if not cooled properly)
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#20 blaznwiipspman1
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OC the cpu to its max, then lower the resolution and graphics settings in FC3 to 720p. If the frames you're getting are reasonable, say minimum 40-60 and you're happy with that then upgrade the graphics card to a 7870 or a 7950.

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Don't use MSAA, use SSAO instead of HBAO. Don't use ingame vsync, use from nvidia control panel instead.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Overclocking his CPU isnt going to magically make things better...even if you could hit 2.8Ghz or something with that CPU its not going to make things a whole lot better imo. The CPU is old, architecture is old, everything. Dont put anymore money into it, just wait till you can afford a better rig, no point pairing a newer card with that CPU even if you do manage to overclock it.hartsickdiscipl

This is bad advice IMO. Most Q8200's can hit 3ghz+ pretty easily, and that equals a big performance boost in most games. The 650 is weak. He will see a huge performance increase by OC'ing his CPU to 3ghz+ and pairing it with a GTX 660 Ti or better.

Or he could just save his money till he can buy a new rig, which is what he is planning on anyway...The CPU is old, getting real old, I dont see why anyone would pair an old CPU like that to something quite new. I am not saying its a bad processor but I am saying he will get more system balance and less bottleneck issues by just saving up for a new PC.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Overclocking his CPU isnt going to magically make things better...even if you could hit 2.8Ghz or something with that CPU its not going to make things a whole lot better imo. The CPU is old, architecture is old, everything. Dont put anymore money into it, just wait till you can afford a better rig, no point pairing a newer card with that CPU even if you do manage to overclock it.V4LENT1NE

This is bad advice IMO. Most Q8200's can hit 3ghz+ pretty easily, and that equals a big performance boost in most games. The 650 is weak. He will see a huge performance increase by OC'ing his CPU to 3ghz+ and pairing it with a GTX 660 Ti or better.

Or he could just save his money till he can buy a new rig, which is what he is planning on anyway...The CPU is old, getting real old, I dont see why anyone would pair an old CPU like that to something quite new. I am not saying its a bad processor but I am saying he will get more system balance and less bottleneck issues by just saving up for a new PC.

He's not going to hurt himself by overclocking his current CPU and buying a GPU now that he can carry over to a new, near-future rig. He can replace one component and get the performance that he's looking for. That's what he wanted.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Overclocking his CPU isnt going to magically make things better...even if you could hit 2.8Ghz or something with that CPU its not going to make things a whole lot better imo. The CPU is old, architecture is old, everything. Dont put anymore money into it, just wait till you can afford a better rig, no point pairing a newer card with that CPU even if you do manage to overclock it.hartsickdiscipl

This is bad advice IMO. Most Q8200's can hit 3ghz+ pretty easily, and that equals a big performance boost in most games. The 650 is weak. He will see a huge performance increase by OC'ing his CPU to 3ghz+ and pairing it with a GTX 660 Ti or better.

lol these people are clueless. The q8200 is a terrible overclocker.

the 650 is also a garbo gpu.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

This is bad advice IMO. Most Q8200's can hit 3ghz+ pretty easily, and that equals a big performance boost in most games. The 650 is weak. He will see a huge performance increase by OC'ing his CPU to 3ghz+ and pairing it with a GTX 660 Ti or better.

hartsickdiscipl

Or he could just save his money till he can buy a new rig, which is what he is planning on anyway...The CPU is old, getting real old, I dont see why anyone would pair an old CPU like that to something quite new. I am not saying its a bad processor but I am saying he will get more system balance and less bottleneck issues by just saving up for a new PC.

He's not going to hurt himself by overclocking his current CPU and buying a GPU now that he can carry over to a new, near-future rig. He can replace one component and get the performance that he's looking for. That's what he wanted.

The 8200 can barely make it to 2.6Ghz, are you sure you are even arguing about the right CPU here? The Q8200 overclocks a lot worse than the Q6600...You say I am giving bad advice but I dont think you know what you are talking about here...

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#26 Elann2008
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Don't use MSAA, use SSAO instead of HBAO. Don't use ingame vsync, use from nvidia control panel instead.

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I followed Baranga's advice and turned off SSAO completely via my documents/FarCry 3 ----> Open with Notepad and modify. The game runs so much better and more fluid in certain areas; for the most part. And it looks better too! By better, I mean it looks sharper. The game has poor SSAO and I usually like SSAO in my games. But you're definitely right when it comes to Nvidia GPUs. Use Control Panel vsync instead if you want to use vsync.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Or he could just save his money till he can buy a new rig, which is what he is planning on anyway...The CPU is old, getting real old, I dont see why anyone would pair an old CPU like that to something quite new. I am not saying its a bad processor but I am saying he will get more system balance and less bottleneck issues by just saving up for a new PC.V4LENT1NE

He's not going to hurt himself by overclocking his current CPU and buying a GPU now that he can carry over to a new, near-future rig. He can replace one component and get the performance that he's looking for. That's what he wanted.

The 8200 can barely make it to 2.6Ghz, are you sure you are even arguing about the right CPU here? The Q8200 overclocks a lot worse than the Q6600...You say I am giving bad advice but I dont think you know what you are talking about here...

Who doesn't know what they're talking about?-

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t359766.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/896/13/

People are hitting around 3ghz and over with those chips. I'm sure that some people aren't having as much luck, but obviously the chip is capable.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

He's not going to hurt himself by overclocking his current CPU and buying a GPU now that he can carry over to a new, near-future rig. He can replace one component and get the performance that he's looking for. That's what he wanted.

hartsickdiscipl

The 8200 can barely make it to 2.6Ghz, are you sure you are even arguing about the right CPU here? The Q8200 overclocks a lot worse than the Q6600...You say I am giving bad advice but I dont think you know what you are talking about here...

Who doesn't know what they're talking about?-

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t359766.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/896/13/

People are hitting around 3ghz and over with those chips. I'm sure that some people aren't having as much luck, but obviously the chip is capable.

That is a Q8200S review isnt it? I am seeing very different results.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] The 8200 can barely make it to 2.6Ghz, are you sure you are even arguing about the right CPU here? The Q8200 overclocks a lot worse than the Q6600...You say I am giving bad advice but I dont think you know what you are talking about here...

V4LENT1NE

Who doesn't know what they're talking about?-

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t359766.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/896/13/

People are hitting around 3ghz and over with those chips. I'm sure that some people aren't having as much luck, but obviously the chip is capable.

That is a Q8200S review isnt it? I am seeing very different results.

No, it's a regular Q8200 review. You'd know that if you clicked on the link.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Who doesn't know what they're talking about?-

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t359766.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/896/13/

People are hitting around 3ghz and over with those chips. I'm sure that some people aren't having as much luck, but obviously the chip is capable.

hartsickdiscipl

That is a Q8200S review isnt it? I am seeing very different results.

No, it's a regular Q8200 review. You'd know that if you clicked on the link.

"Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200S Processor Review" on legitreviews.
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] That is a Q8200S review isnt it? I am seeing very different results.V4LENT1NE

No, it's a regular Q8200 review. You'd know that if you clicked on the link.

"Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200S Processor Review" on legitreviews.

Ok, so it's a 65 watt part instead of a 95W, for all the difference it makes. 95 watt was pretty damn low for a 45nm quad of that generation, so I don't think that was holding the Q8200 back. That's not the case for the CPU in the first link that I posted. I can post more if you like.

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If anyone is having problems overclocking a Q8200, then it's their motherboard holding them back , not the CPU. Well, either that, or they don't know much about bios settings...
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#33 superclocked
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lol these people are clueless. The q8200 is a terrible overclocker.

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It's a 45nm Yorkfield. Provided that his motherboard can handle relatively high fsb speeds, passing 3GHz should be a breeze. In fact, due to the lower amount of cache, the Q8200 will overclock better than a Q9650 if you use a liquid cooled motherboard...