What do you guys think of OBLIVION

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#1 koza_76
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Here's a short synopsis, of my experience.

I liked the game. The customization options were great, the graphics were great (poorly optimized though). The combat was fun, became boring quickly. The bow and arrow were extremely underpowered. Lots and tons of quest, simple amazing the amount were in there. Having said that, most quests had lack of substance. From a RPG stand point I never felt I was in the thieves guild for example, I never thought I was part of the fighters guild. It was mostly go here, and find/kill/rescue this person. The lack of deep dialogue trees also flopped this game in RPG standards. The fast travel option? I think it's an insult to the artists who slaved over the game. However it is a good thing to have that option.

I tried to like oblivion, everytime I go back to it I get bored over again. Most final fantasy games have better story and feel that oblivion has. That's my opinion please share yours.

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#2 Unstoppable_1
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Whew good thing I never bought into the hype. Thanks for the info. I thought the Morrowind combat was BORING. So I didn't even bother with Oblivion.
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#3 mojahid_1st
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Whew good thing I never bought into the hype. Thanks for the info. I thought the Morrowind combat was BORING. So I didn't even bother with Oblivion.Unstoppable_1

Don't make this post the reason you decided not to try this game! this is just a small view of a greater picture. Try the game yourself, you may be suprised. It is more than just a good RPG, it is also hassome of the sweetest graphics you'll ever see, and with over 200 hrs of game play youwill find yourself lost in the magnitute of the game. Try it, I would highly recommend the game.

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#4 Sup11722
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I thought the game was awesome honestly and everyone admits the combat and cuzmitation and all that was awesome they just have no attention spad
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#5 Unstoppable_1
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I tried Morrowind. It didn't hold me over for more than a few days. Why should I waste money on Oblivion. I see no reason to it's the same thing with shinier graphics and a new story. Perhaps the combat is a bit better. Besides that I hear the world levels as you level. I find that design decision retarded. =(
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#6 justheretodl124
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Good game, still needs a bit of improvement with the rpg elements the game gets really tedious when you try to beat it a second time.
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#7 JN_Fenrir
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Whew good thing I never bought into the hype. Thanks for the info. I thought the Morrowind combat was BORING. So I didn't even bother with Oblivion.Unstoppable_1
Morrowind's combat sucked. In fact, Morrowind's combat was so bad, I found it hard to get into the game itself. Combat in Oblivion is much faster-paced, more functional, more accessible, and more fun overall. Because of this, I've actually spent a lot more time playing Oblivion, despite the fact that it lacked a lot of the character and story depth that Morrowind had. It's a completely different experience.
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#8 j3v1zzle
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Good, solid RPG game that was definitely going in the right direction but you could tell it was missing something. Perhaps some much needed RPG element and focus but it was overall a good experience, a little boring and dull at times but still great fun.
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#9 madrocketeer
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Here's what I think about it. The Good: 1. Great graphics, huge and beautiful environments. 2. Nice sound works. Great score from Jeremy Soule as always. 3. Very moddable. The Bad: 1. Frustrating interface obviously designed for consoles. Why couldn't Bethesda at least spend a little time to come up with a more PC-suitable interface? 2. System requirements are quite steep. Even with the oblivion.ini tweaks it still stutters quite a bit. 3. Big environments are nice, but there are just not a lot to do. Overall, a bit overrated, really. Apparently mods are supposed to improve this game quite a bit - I'm currently trying out the Oblivion Overhaul right now.
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#10 TrueReligion_
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Awesome game. It has its flaws like every other game, though.
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#11 Herrick
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I tried Morrowind. It didn't hold me over for more than a few days. Why should I waste money on Oblivion. I see no reason to it's the same thing with shinier graphics and a new story. Perhaps the combat is a bit better. Besides that I hear the world levels as you level. I find that design decision retarded. =(Unstoppable_1

Both games have the same basic setup, but I think Oblivion is much better. The combat's realtime. It's nothing like Morrowind. The whole Oblivion world is much more lively. You don't have to do as much slow walking in Oblivion like in Morrowind. I'm not trying to give you a hard time or anything. I just wanted to give you a heads up to let you know that the games are quite different from eachother. 8)

And Herrick thought Oblivion was a damned good game for the record.

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#12 SacrificiaLamb
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I tried Morrowind. It didn't hold me over for more than a few days. Why should I waste money on Oblivion. I see no reason to it's the same thing with shinier graphics and a new story. Perhaps the combat is a bit better. Besides that I hear the world levels as you level. I find that design decision retarded. =(Unstoppable_1

If you didn't like Morrowind that much, you can safely skip Oblivion, which is a prettier, simplified, and more action-oriented (click,click,click) version of MW with an even skimpier dialogue and story (voiced yes, but by no more than 5 actors, minus Patty Cakes).

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#13 Unstoppable_1
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Wow your text is uber small. I can read it just fine though. I think I am happy I never played Oblivion. I just prefer games like Diablo more.
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#14 RobertBowen
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You will either like Oblivion, or you won't, because like any game it is not going to be enjoyed by everyone. Oblivion is more of an open-ended gaming experience, which is why the story-telling sometimes feels a bit sparse. As for the fetch/carry quests, I find those prevalent in just about every RPG I've ever played. At least some of the quests in Oblivion are humorous (I liked the twist on the 'rat' quest, for example) and inventive (like being transported into a painted world). Considering the sheer scope of the game, I can forgive it some issues.

Having said all that, I do find the game more enjoyable using some of the mods available, like Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul, which make the game more challenging. I don't regret buying the game at all considering I probably invested in excess of 400 hours of play time in it (using a variety of different characters following different quest lines). I can't think of many other games that have given me that amount of entertainment, other than Morrowind or maybe Neverwinter Nights (with all the expansions and some of the additional modules).

So I have to say I had a blast with the game, in spite of the bugs and glitches.

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#15 Dracunos
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It had some elements that if they were added to, for example, Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines.. I would orgasm perpetually whilst playing.

I don't need to say much more than that on the subject, I think

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#16 jonnyli
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I really liked Oblivion when I just got the game. I think the new combat system was good in that it was faster paced but it was too action oriented rather than the RPG style. I also REALLY hated how the monsters leveled up with you. It totally defeated the point in leveling, and finding item which is a very heavy part of an RPG. I also thing the game should have only made places fast travel-able when you actually been there once.
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#17 mrxdemix
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As many people have said, it's really hit or miss. It missed for me. I hated it and had very little fun playing it. I truly prefer the traditional RPG style or a real FPS shooter. It just wasn't my gig.
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#18 Garygok
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It occupied my time for a little while.

The interface was annoying to navigate and inventory was a pain in the butt.

There was some cool elements though that made me go "Oh neat", such as the way you can become a Vampire.

Great graphics though it pushed my system to the limit.

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#19 Impulse1195
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I understand everyone has differing opinions, and I realize that by just giving mine I probably wont change anyones mind over the game. But I very much enjoyed Oblivion. I think the reason for that.. is because I had no idea what I was getting into. I heard it was an RPG (and at the time, was searching for an RPG for the 360) come to find out later, that its a free roaming enormous world with all types of side quests. So I was really surprised once I got into it. But I'm thinking that might be WHY I enjoyed it more than some people.

I hear a lot of comparison in this game to WoW, which SEEMS fair. But being that it isnt an MMO I dont think its an accurate description. A lot of the complaints I hear are of a role playing nature.. its never really about the storyline. The way I saw it... there was simply a story to finish in the main quest, and a handful of ways to play through it. I dont think anyone is going to achieve the same level of satisfaction by RP'ing a single player game, like you would an MMORPG. Granted you ARE role playing a character, but I think we've been spoiled here by games like World of Warcraft. So.. my advice would be to spend less time on "who your character is" and more time on the story as though you would on a linear RPG.

I know that isn't everyones qualm, but.. I hope at least a few people take it into consideration.

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#20 GeryGo  Moderator
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Oblivion is a great game - need few improvements thought - but gameplay is pretty boring if you compare it to Gothic 3
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#21 Poshkidney
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i liked it from start to finish i counld'nt get it to run on the maxium settings but i used it to show off the power of my computer and my dad thought it was great even though he had not played it but he said that he would like a lords of midnight with the graphical power of oblivion
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#22 Crash_lll
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i agree
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#23 ShotGunBunny
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Well, I voted for the second option, because I recall being so amazed at the graphics at first, and of course it was since taking my first steps in such a world. It didn't take long before I started utterly hating it though.


Oblivion: The pinnacle of everything that is wrong with the gaming industry today. Tell your children the tales of the horrors we had to face.

@ RobertBowen:You're absolutely correct, not everyone can love everything. However, that's what Bethesda doesn't seem to understand. Morrowind is a really nice game, I can name a ton of people who liked it, but I can also name a ton of people who hated it.
The funny part is that all the people who loved Morrowind hate Oblivion, just like me. For the same reasons as me, and people on these boards, for example.


Simply put: Beth was hellbent on bringing it's precious series to the mainstream, and it worked, better then anyone can every imagine. Kinda sad that every aspect I loved about Morrowind has been removed in the process.

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#24 Crucifier
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its good for a while, but once you hit lvl 20+ it gets VERY boring VERY fast. combat becomes just tedious and repetitive, and there is just plain nothing to do.
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#25 vfibsux
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Magic combat is not boring at all, melee definately. I disagree that bows are underpowered, with sneak 3x damage bonus and or some poisons on them they are just fine. If you want to enjoy Elder Scrolls you have to play as a mage imo. You have tons of different ways to do things, and you must change up tactics throughout the game considering how many mobs you are facing, what their weaknesses are, etc.. Try a pure mage with all the magics and see. Create your own spells like a DOT to lead off with that weakens your enemies shock resist by 100 for 10 seconds, and at the same time deals 20 shock damage per second, follow it with a powerful shock touch spell. Conjure is also a must, as is invisibility (illusion). Create a +100 mercantile/charm spell for getting people to give you deals and information. It makes the game more fun.
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#26 GeryGo  Moderator
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i think the most fun gameplay you can get in Oblivion is with bow+sneak/hide - to kill with 1 shot undetected like an Assassin
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#27 gamerchris810
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Here's a short synopsis, of my experience.

I liked the game. The customization options were great, the graphics were great (poorly optimized though). The combat was fun, became boring quickly. The bow and arrow were extremely underpowered. Lots and tons of quest, simple amazing the amount were in there. Having said that, most quests had lack of substance. From a RPG stand point I never felt I was in the thieves guild for example, I never thought I was part of the fighters guild. It was mostly go here, and find/kill/rescue this person. The lack of deep dialogue trees also flopped this game in RPG standards. The fast travel option? I think it's an insult to the artists who slaved over the game. However it is a good thing to have that option.

I tried to like oblivion, everytime I go back to it I get bored over again. Most final fantasy games have better story and feel that oblivion has. That's my opinion please share yours.

koza_76

how can u call oblivion poorly optimize, its one of the best optimized games. Perhaps u have a rubbish computer...its perfect for me.

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#28 Dracunos
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[QUOTE="koza_76"]

Here's a short synopsis, of my experience.

I liked the game. The customization options were great, the graphics were great (poorly optimized though). The combat was fun, became boring quickly. The bow and arrow were extremely underpowered. Lots and tons of quest, simple amazing the amount were in there. Having said that, most quests had lack of substance. From a RPG stand point I never felt I was in the thieves guild for example, I never thought I was part of the fighters guild. It was mostly go here, and find/kill/rescue this person. The lack of deep dialogue trees also flopped this game in RPG standards. The fast travel option? I think it's an insult to the artists who slaved over the game. However it is a good thing to have that option.

I tried to like oblivion, everytime I go back to it I get bored over again. Most final fantasy games have better story and feel that oblivion has. That's my opinion please share yours.

gamerchris810

how can u call oblivion poorly optimize, its one of the best optimized games. Perhaps u have a rubbish computer...its perfect for me.

Oblivion looks pretty close to 'Oblivion' whether you have high or medium settings or whatever.. But nonetheless with everything up and all modded and such it can look amazing. Frame rates are a bit hard to get up there.. Not as good as UT2k4, for example, but this is a pretty decently optimized games today. Unless you can barely run Oblivion on max and you try to add all those graphic mods, then that's just stupid and I guess you can consider that poor optimization :p

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#29 jongaska
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[QUOTE="koza_76"]

Here's a short synopsis, of my experience.

I liked the game. The customization options were great, the graphics were great (poorly optimized though). The combat was fun, became boring quickly. The bow and arrow were extremely underpowered. Lots and tons of quest, simple amazing the amount were in there. Having said that, most quests had lack of substance. From a RPG stand point I never felt I was in the thieves guild for example, I never thought I was part of the fighters guild. It was mostly go here, and find/kill/rescue this person. The lack of deep dialogue trees also flopped this game in RPG standards. The fast travel option? I think it's an insult to the artists who slaved over the game. However it is a good thing to have that option.

I tried to like oblivion, everytime I go back to it I get bored over again. Most final fantasy games have better story and feel that oblivion has. That's my opinion please share yours.

gamerchris810

how can u call oblivion poorly optimize, its one of the best optimized games. Perhaps u have a rubbish computer...its perfect for me.

It ran just fine on my computer.FF and Oblivion are two different games entirely.Theres very few elements that they share.

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#30 koza_76
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My computer runs Oblivion alright, I can get about 30 fps after messing around with the settings about medium high, and messing around with the ini file to get more ram boost. Even then when in combat with several people it bogs down pretty fast. Then again I'm used to 100fps from games like counter strike, so in comparison the oblivion engine is not nearly as greatly optimized as the source engine.
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#31 koza_76
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[QUOTE="gamerchris810"][QUOTE="koza_76"]

Here's a short synopsis, of my experience.

I liked the game. The customization options were great, the graphics were great (poorly optimized though). The combat was fun, became boring quickly. The bow and arrow were extremely underpowered. Lots and tons of quest, simple amazing the amount were in there. Having said that, most quests had lack of substance. From a RPG stand point I never felt I was in the thieves guild for example, I never thought I was part of the fighters guild. It was mostly go here, and find/kill/rescue this person. The lack of deep dialogue trees also flopped this game in RPG standards. The fast travel option? I think it's an insult to the artists who slaved over the game. However it is a good thing to have that option.

I tried to like oblivion, everytime I go back to it I get bored over again. Most final fantasy games have better story and feel that oblivion has. That's my opinion please share yours.

jongaska

how can u call oblivion poorly optimize, its one of the best optimized games. Perhaps u have a rubbish computer...its perfect for me.

It ran just fine on my computer.FF and Oblivion are two different games entirely.Theres very few elements that they share.

Yeah they are both different, ones expands a few generations from the pen and paper RPG's into computer games, the other spans from good old japanese style RPG games. Not saying Elder Scrolls were P&P just saying it was influenced mostly from D&D as most RPG games can say where their influences are from.


Just saying in comparison of story, most FF games have deeper plot, thus I enjoyed most FF games more than Oblivion. Even taking away from gameplay differences, Oblivion was a miss for me. Just to get over Oblivion I started playing Fallout 2 again the first time again in 8 years or so. Let me tell you the graphic part was hard to get over. Once I started getting into the plot and story though I realized what made this game great. Perhaps the steps RPG's today are making towards the shallow end of the pool will help sales and young gamers enjoy it more. Yet comming back to FF, that formula and franchise has been going on forever. FF concepts have been changed very little over the years, the stories are excellent, and they please many fans, and make many more as they go on sticking to what they do best.

So Bethesda in my opinion alienated many fans from Morrowind by changing things that they loved the most from the game, the basic concepts that made the game great. I still liked Oblivion, it just wasn't what Bethesda said it would be.

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#32 KorJax
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Morrowind was great, it was a real masterpiece. The only problem with it was that it was REALLY hard to get into at first. Its one of those games that you need to *stick with it* to see the deep RPG elements in it, or a game where you need to see a high-level character play the game to influence you how good it can get.

Oblivion makes it much easier to get into, which is good, and the combat is much better, but its so much more basic, and you have so much less options than morrowind as far as skills, spells, weapons (Throwing stars FTW!), that I feel likes its alsmost not worth it in the end.

I voted for the 3rd option. Good game, but really lax in RPG (therefore the combat suffers, even though its improved from Morrowind).

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Oblivion isn't great when you first intall it. But when you add OOO and MMM it becomes one of the best games iv'e ever played.
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#34 Herrick
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I also thing the game should have only made places fast travel-able when you actually been there once. jonnyli

I thought that's how it worked in the game? You had to travel yourself to the locations in order to fast travel to them later on. Or maybe there were some major cities that you were able to fast travel to without having gone there on foot or by horse. I don't remember.

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#35 Dracunos
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[QUOTE="jonnyli"]I also thing the game should have only made places fast travel-able when you actually been there once. Herrick

I thought that's how it worked in the game? You had to travel yourself to the locations in order to fast travel to them later on. Or maybe there were some major cities that you were able to fast travel to without having gone there on foot or by horse. I don't remember.

You can fast-travel to any city, but random generated areas and more obscure areas you must travel to on foot. But I think the point is that by the time you pick up that character he's at least 18 by then, and he's probably already been to all the major cities in that area :p