What EXACTLY is a Quad-Core?

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#1 RyuHayabusaX
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Is it 4 CPUs working? Is it 2 Cores in each CPU? If you had a Quad core 4 Ghz, does that mean each core is working at 4 Ghz, so you have 16 Ghz? Same thing applies to Core 2 Duo, where you just multiply it by 2.
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Is it 4 CPUs working? Is it 2 Cores in each CPU? If you had a Quad core 4 Ghz, does that mean each core is working at 4 Ghz, so you have 12 Ghz? Same thing applies to Core 2 Duo, where you just multiply it by 2. RyuHayabusaX

all I know is that 4 * 4 is 16.

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#3 musclesforcier
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4 x 4 = 16

And no that is not how it works

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#4 wemhim
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4 cores is pretty much 4 main CPU cores, so pretty much, 4 CPUs, working, however, 4 cores is 4 working seperatly, so they won't be 16GHz if they're all working at 4GHz, at least, that's what I think. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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#5 RyuHayabusaX
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I've been looking up 3 Ghz a lot on the net and I just brought up 4 Ghz(The highest I've seen is Quad core 3.73 Ghz, don't even know if it goes that high), so I was thinking 4 x 3 when I made up the 4 Ghz. Anyways, it wouldn't hurt to get a powerful quad-core for the future. Hopefully the computer will be good enough for college(going into 11th, but if I get a powerful one now, it'll be good for just about FOREVER, I won't be gaming in college a lot.
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#6 codezer0
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Quad core simply means that the chip package has four processing cores, so rather than needing four separate CPU sockets, you only have to have one. It could be two dual-cores in a single physical package (like what intel currently does with their Core 2 Quads), or four together in a single die (like AMD is slated to do with barcelona/a.k.a. "Phenom" chips).

No, the summary processing power does not just linearly multiply like that. Four cores at 4GHz does not equal 16GHz; unlikely it ever will. The challenges with software overhead and being able to have code that is both aware of and able to manage and implement all available processing cores would make that physically impossible. However, a well-written, multi-threaded program could effectively scale upwards almost linearly with the presence of more cores available.

There's also the (not so little) issue regarding dissipating the increased heat of those four cores in a system, and the increased power draw - it's one reason that we shouldn't expect to see a quad-core in a notebook anytime soon.

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#7 ruler31010
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It is basically 4 seperate cores on one die or chip and the combined processing power of the cores together is 4GHz.

This article should help.

http://icrontic.com/articles/quad_core

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#8 rgsniper1
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Here's the EXACT page for Intel Quad Cores. It breaks down specs and benefits of what a Quad Core is EXACTLY.
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#9 Dancing_Panda
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this is what i think quad cores do, im 90 percent sure. Having a quad core doesnt neccesarily make ur pc faster, it just handles the load better, the processor is 4ghz and will remain 4 ghz regardless of the amount of cores. A single core 4ghz processor would handle the ful workload all by itself whereas a quad core would split the work between the cores thus making for more efficient processing. For example if you ran photoshop, internet explorer, itunes and cinema 4d chances are a 4ghz single core would only jus handle it and there would be a large impact of speed however a multicore processor could split the work between different cores aka one handles photoshop another C4d and another itunes. There are also programs that are designed to use multiple cores. This is also applicable for games, games are now being designed to take advantage of multiple core systems such as supreme commander.
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#10 dayaccus007
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There are not native quad core on the market yet, the Q series from Intel is not real a quadcore, is more like 2xdualcore. First nativ Quad will be Penryn, than we will have 16Ghz
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#11 yoyo462001
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There are not native quad core on the market yet, the Q series from Intel is not real a quadcore, is more like 2xdualcore. First nativ Quad will be Penryn, than we will have 16Ghzdayaccus007
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There are not native quad core on the market yet, the Q series from Intel is not real a quadcore, is more like 2xdualcore. First nativ Quad will be Penryn, than we will have 16Ghzdayaccus007

Actually I'm pretty sure Penryn is the same architecture as the current Quads. The differance is that FSB is going to 1333 instead of 1066. Also it's moving from the 65 nm to the 45 nm. Including DAT technology and lastly there redoing some of the memory shuffling and adding SSE4 instruction set.

Nehalem is the earliest they will be doing a true quadcore. And even that is sharing some of the penryn architecture.

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There are not native quad core on the market yet, the Q series from Intel is not real a quadcore, is more like 2xdualcore. First nativ Quad will be Penryn, than we will have 16Ghzdayaccus007
WHOA, hold on, so then I shouldn't be spending all my money now then? I can wait(though don't want to wait TOO long), but this sounds like a better investment. The difference here is like Windows 95 to Vista! When are these Penryns coming out? When I've saved up enough, I can use this with 8900 GTX and 4 GB of RAM, should be good for a while! So when are these supposed to be coming out? Same time as 8900 GTX, or later next year? I have to first get a 2100 on the SAT, and THEN I can get whatever computer I want(not too hard, I'm #1 in my grade I know what I'm doing).
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#14 filmography
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^november/december, also the phenom quad cores from amd will be making their debut at the same time so it should be intersting to see, i hope you got cash thoug, easily a good quad could cost $400-500.

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[QUOTE="dayaccus007"]There are not native quad core on the market yet, the Q series from Intel is not real a quadcore, is more like 2xdualcore. First nativ Quad will be Penryn, than we will have 16GhzRyuHayabusaX
WHOA, hold on, so then I shouldn't be spending all my money now then? I can wait(though don't want to wait TOO long), but this sounds like a better investment. The difference here is like Windows 95 to Vista! When are these Penryns coming out? When I've saved up enough, I can use this with 8900 GTX and 4 GB of RAM, should be good for a while! So when are these supposed to be coming out? Same time as 8900 GTX, or later next year? I have to first get a 2100 on the SAT, and THEN I can get whatever computer I want(not too hard, I'm #1 in my grade I know what I'm doing).

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^november/december, also the phenom quad cores from amd will be making their debut at the same time so it should be intersting to see, i hope you got cash thoug, easily a good quad could cost $400-500.

filmography
Well if I'm getting a compuer, I want something that'll last a while instead of constantly updating. So I plan on getting this Penryn, 8900 GTX, 4 GB RAM, a Blu-Ray Drive if I don't get a PS3(and able to rewrite Blu-Ray), maybe a 2nd HD-DVD optical drive IF POSSIBLE, and a 1-2 TB HDD(Trust me with this, I won't need another HDD for a while). This computer would probably outlast me through college and a little beyound.
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[QUOTE="filmography"]

^november/december, also the phenom quad cores from amd will be making their debut at the same time so it should be intersting to see, i hope you got cash thoug, easily a good quad could cost $400-500.

RyuHayabusaX

Well if I'm getting a compuer, I want something that'll last a while instead of constantly updating. So I plan on getting this Penryn, 8900 GTX, 4 GB RAM, a Blu-Ray Drive if I don't get a PS3(and able to rewrite Blu-Ray), maybe a 2nd HD-DVD optical drive IF POSSIBLE, and a 1-2 TB HDD(Trust me with this, I won't need another HDD for a while). This computer would probably outlast me through college and a little beyound.

that sound 5K$ to me :)

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#18 filmography
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^I would wait on blue-ray, its not very mainstream yet and its very expensive and if your gana download alot get 2 500GB drives but thats it, more than that is overkill and also you may wana pick up a nice 1900x1200 monitor to get your money's worth out of that 8900 or g90 whatever there gana call that card coming in november.
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#19 RyuHayabusaX
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[QUOTE="RyuHayabusaX"][QUOTE="filmography"]

^november/december, also the phenom quad cores from amd will be making their debut at the same time so it should be intersting to see, i hope you got cash thoug, easily a good quad could cost $400-500.

ROCKINGFOOL

Well if I'm getting a compuer, I want something that'll last a while instead of constantly updating. So I plan on getting this Penryn, 8900 GTX, 4 GB RAM, a Blu-Ray Drive if I don't get a PS3(and able to rewrite Blu-Ray), maybe a 2nd HD-DVD optical drive IF POSSIBLE, and a 1-2 TB HDD(Trust me with this, I won't need another HDD for a while). This computer would probably outlast me through college and a little beyound.

that sound 5K$ to me :)

I mean I'm sure I'll lower the price somewhere, I just looked at what Dell was offering, and who knows, I might get a high end Dell, or get it cheaper from newegg.
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^I would wait on blue-ray, its not very mainstream yet and its very expensive and if your gana download alot get 2 500GB drives but thats it, more than that is overkill and also you may wana pick up a nice 1900x1200 monitor to get your money's worth out of that 8900 or g90 whatever there gana call that card coming in november.filmography
For the monitor, I was wondering about this. Is the 1900 x 1200 a monitor that costs $500, or one of those $250 ones that are like 22"? If we get a big 50" LCD 1080p(doubt it, but could happen), I could just use that as my screen :). Though it wouldn't happen, I'm just fantasizing here, but i"ll probably get a smaller monitor anyways.
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#21 marlonsm
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about multiple cores, as others said, it isn't frequence x cores= performance

but to explain it better, i've once heared this to know how would a multicore perform:

think on cores like roads and on the CPU frequence as the max speed on the road.

if you increase the nomber of roads(more cores) more cars(data) can pass, but thier speed won't be higher.

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#22 filmography
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For the monitor, I was wondering about this. Is the 1900 x 1200 a monitor that costs $500, or one of those $250 ones that are like 22"? If we get a big 50" LCD 1080p(doubt it, but could happen), I could just use that as my screen :). Though it wouldn't happen, I'm just fantasizing here, but i"ll probably get a smaller monitor anyways. RyuHayabusaX

yeah the 22inch are usually just 1680x1050 which for the8900 isn't really worth it, its like using a nuclear reactor to power a car. the $500 monitor is the 24inch 1900x1200 monitor. which is really the only monitor you should be getting for your card. Oh and 1900x1200=1080p just on a smaller screen.