What games do you think have the best/worst combat?

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#1 GodLovesDead
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What are some games that you think have terrible/boring and great combat?

Best : Crysis. I can't think of any game where I killed a humvee by shooting trees to land on it. Every fight is incredibly visceral and action-packed. I recall at one point chasing Koreans with a shotgun and strength mode - and at one point 4 enemies started to flee. One tripped over a branch and knocked all of the others over. They really thought of everything.

Worst : Gears of War. Probably the epitome of boring combat. Take cover, aim, pop out, and shoot. That's all you do. Probably one of the few action oriented games where headshots don't deal any additional damage. When I first shot the magnum and shot their head, I thought "finally" as their heads exploded. But next enemy encounter I missed and aimed for their chest and the same thing happened, except their chest exploded instead. And since a locust takes half a clip to kill - shooting them starts to feel like a chore after the first 10 minutes. It literally begins to put me to sleep when I play it. It's too static, too mindless, too easy, and too repetitive.

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#2 OoSuperMarioO
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Call of Duty 4 > Crysis
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#3 xid32
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Call of Duty 4 > CrysisOoSuperMarioO

I personally dont like the COD4 combat system.

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#4 SimpJee
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Going with a classic:

Best: Counter-Strike (original), the gameplay requires quick reflexes and is fast in general and the damage is somewhat realistic (HS kills in one hit). Strategy can also be used during competitive play, the sides are also very balanced.

Worst (I really don't buy bad games but ...): GRAW

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#5 GodLovesDead
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Call of Duty 4 > CrysisOoSuperMarioO

Static, generic ballistics, and repetitive. Mediocre combat really.

Going with a classic:

Best: Counter-Strike (original), the gameplay requires quick reflexes and is fast in general and the damage is somewhat realistic (HS kills in one hit). Strategy can also be used during competitive play, the sides are also very balanced.

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Counter-Strike is great. Back when I first started playing it when I was ~8, I've never had more fun in my life.

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Best: Original Ghost Recon.
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#7 JP_Russell
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Definitely Crysis for the best. The gunplay alone trumps all other games combat, with every weapon having just the right "umph" to it. Add in all the other aspects to the combat, and there's just nothing that comes close.

Honorable mentions are FEAR, No One Lives Forever (1), Dark Forces, Serious Sam: The First & Second Encounters... That's all I can think of at the moment as the headrunners.

For worst... Nitro Family, C&C Renegade, and Red Faction 2, I guess.

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#8 Makari
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Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. :D For all the other flaws of the game, the combat was pretty awesome.
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calling a game that was awarded GOTY on quite a number of gamesites as having "the worst combat" really doesn't fly, mate....

anyway, among the game that i've owned, Deus Ex has the worst combat system. can't really say anything about the best, but i'm usually quite satisfied with the combat system on my games.

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#10 GodLovesDead
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calling a game that was awarded GOTY on quite a number of gamesites as having "the worst combat" really doesn't fly, mate....

Jinroh_basic

I don't care what reviewers think. I haven't met anyone that thought Gears didn't suck other than random kids who don't even play games (aside from Madden once a week). As in non-gamers. Gears of War is for casual gamers.

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#11 prakaa
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From my thread, the combat system of Mount and Blade is innovaive and fun
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#12 fatshodan
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Crysis and F.E.A.R for best, Gears of War and BioShock for worst.
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#13 OoSuperMarioO
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[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]

calling a game that was awarded GOTY on quite a number of gamesites as having "the worst combat" really doesn't fly, mate....

GodLovesDead

I don't care what reviewers think. I haven't met anyone that thought Gears didn't suck other than random kids who don't even play games aside from Madden once a week.

I wish I was a kid again then the World will all make sense, I think....
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Max Payne 2 for best probably. I don't think Gears sucked either, combat was decent.

worst... postal 2?

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#15 ssvegeta555
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Even though I've only played the demo, my vote for best combat goes to Crysis. I never had so much fun with gunplay in a long time. Considering that, I'm not sure why I havn't picked up the game yet...

Worst combat goes to Morrowind. As much as I love the game, the combat was pretty bleh. Anywho, time for this poor college student to scrounge up some cash and buy Crysis. *runns off on an epic quest*

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#16 Nicolas101
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I found Deus Ex's combat to be one of the worst I've ever played. (The game was good though)
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#17 mushroom_kid
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Crysis and Devil May Cry 4 for best

ET:QW and GoW for worst

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Best: Half-Life, Max Payne, Call of Duty, Medal of Honour, Company of Heroes, Jedi Knight 2: Outcast.

Worst: Tomb Raider Anniversary, House of the Dead,

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#19 Lonelynight
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Call of Duty 4 > CrysisOoSuperMarioO

Can you stop it with these "CoD4>Crysis" posts? :?

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Best: Jedi Knight II, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl and Company of Heroes.

Worst: Don't know....

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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Call of Duty 4 > CrysisLonelynight

Can you stop it with these "CoD4>Crysis" posts? :?

One condition.
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#23 RobbieH1234
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I don't know about the best, but Arcanum has some appallingly bad combat.
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#24 OoSuperMarioO
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Call of Duty 4 > CrysisOoSuperMarioO

Can you stop it with these "CoD4>Crysis" posts? :?

One condition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6j8EiWIVZs&feature=related

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#25 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Call of Duty 4 > CrysisOoSuperMarioO

Can you stop it with these "CoD4>Crysis" posts? :?

One condition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6j8EiWIVZs&feature=related

Ya....I don't get you.

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#26 JeansForever
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Morrowind has the worst combat :/
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#27 lowcally
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The gameplay in Rainbox Six Vegas felt amazingly cool, especially the smooth transitions between first person and thrid person cover mode; and then blind firing around corners. Guns are also really loud like they should sound in real life :D

Crysis > Call of Duty 4 lulz

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#28 shalashaska88
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I'd have to go with FEAR and Max Payne 2, then Crysis. I kinda have this soft spot towards good slow mo implementations.
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Call of Duty 4 > CrysisOoSuperMarioO

Lol at one of the biggest overrated pieces of crap.

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#30 OgreB
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Fallouts turnbased combat..

What a hoot..!!!

Targeting the groin or eyes and watching said target explode in a pile of goo ! And the little messages that went along with it were laugh out loud.

Ah...I miss turn based combat....sigh...

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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Call of Duty 4 > Crysisvash47

Lol at one of the biggest overrated pieces of crap.

Yeah, Crysis is pretty bad.

Anyways, as for the topic, that's a pretty vague/broad question. How about narrowing it down a bit? But Jagged Alliance 2 would definitely be one of the top contenders.

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#32 GodLovesDead
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[QUOTE="vash47"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Call of Duty 4 > Crysis_Memento_

Lol at one of the biggest overrated pieces of crap.

Yeah, Crysis is pretty bad.

Anyways, as for the topic, that's a pretty vague/broad question. How about narrowing it down a bit? But Jagged Alliance 2 would definitely be one of the top contenders.

I was thinking along the line of actions games - where combat is the core of the game. It's not fair to RPGs and such for bad combat because they aren't combat oriented.

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#33 vash47
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[QUOTE="vash47"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Call of Duty 4 > Crysis_Memento_

Lol at one of the biggest overrated pieces of crap.

Yeah, Crysis is pretty bad.

Anyways, as for the topic, that's a pretty vague/broad question. How about narrowing it down a bit? But Jagged Alliance 2 would definitely be one of the top contenders.

I was talking about COD4, though you already know it.

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#34 Vfanek
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[QUOTE="_Memento_"][QUOTE="vash47"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Call of Duty 4 > CrysisGodLovesDead

Lol at one of the biggest overrated pieces of crap.

Yeah, Crysis is pretty bad.

Anyways, as for the topic, that's a pretty vague/broad question. How about narrowing it down a bit? But Jagged Alliance 2 would definitely be one of the top contenders.

I was thinking along the line of actions games - where combat is the core of the game. It's not fair to RPGs and such for bad combat because they aren't combat oriented.

Agreed, I could easily put Planescape: Torment in this list but I refuse to have Planescape in anything but a "Best games of all time" list.

Worst combat? I'm not entirely sure, I haven't played too many bad games. I tend to read reviews etc before buying.

Best? Hard one as well. I thoroughly enjoyed Counter Strikes combat back in the day. Probably my choice, spent so many hours with that game. It's balanced, it can be a tactical team based game or just a chilled FPS where you don't really have to focus, just have a good time. Add to that, the mods are fantastic.

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#35 shakmaster13
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best combat=jk2 and oblivion

worst combat: army men: sarges war. you cant even control where you shoot for gods sake.

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#36 millnxtdr
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elder scrolls oblivion doesnt have the best combat system but there sure are aLOT of enemies to go around.
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#37 millnxtdr
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oblivion doesnt have da best combat system but there r def. enuf enemies to go around.
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#38 Vfanek
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elder scrolls oblivion doesnt have the best combat system but there sure are aLOT of enemies to go around.millnxtdr
Goblins, imps, vampires, demons, trolls, bandit variations, necromancers... Not really anything new, and I know a lot of games with tonnes more than that.
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#39 JP_Russell
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[QUOTE="millnxtdr"]elder scrolls oblivion doesnt have the best combat system but there sure are aLOT of enemies to go around.Vfanek
Goblins, imps, vampires, demons, trolls, bandit variations, necromancers... Not really anything new, and I know a lot of games with tonnes more than that.

That's not really a fair listing, though, because there are a lot of different kinds of daedra, plus you're missing all the "nature" and undead enemies. Not that I'm saying the last part of your comment is untrue, but your list trivializes the enemies to much less in variety than they are.

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#40 AlternatingCaps
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I agree that Crysis has really awesome combat. I dunno if it's the best, but it's definitely up there.

I agree with the TC that Gears got really repetivive, but I don't think I'd call it the worst I've ever played.

I don't know what I choose. I don't really like to say anything is the best or worst when it's so broad like this. Too many choices.