Have you evan tought about of whaqt you are proposing , the cryengfine 2 was meant for games only similar to crysis or with big open world perspectives , you cna't use the cryengine 2 to make another HL2 or FEAR ...because they will loose their personality just think about it of HL2 sinister post apocalyptic vi-be or FEAR's frenetic gun battles & yes offcours FEAR has better A.I. than Crysis has .... REMEBER when you started to hate most of the games out there because they were all using the UNREAL 3 engine ...they just feelt like throw away copies with some minor exceptions that you can count on one hand & those are : Bioware/MASS EFFECt , Epic/GEArs ,UBI/R6V,Bioshock/Irrational & evan can't think of the 5th game to mention !
I don't know about you but i enjoy when i see a game with its own engine ...the expierence is just totaly different.... for instance most of the unreal games were quite the same ofcourse with the exceptions that i have specified up .... but most of them were bland !
P.S. Who knows what Valve's technicians are working on couse i don't see them using the source engine evan more after they lunch Episode 3 , or how the DUNIA engine from FAR cry 2 will look & feel or how the ehanched LITHtech engine from FEAR 2 will react ........just don't be so blinded by gorgeous graphics & think more about the vibe & soul of the game !
beckoflight
Actually, yes, I had thought about it a great deal before I posted. I think the idea was to suggest games which might benefit from the worlds, atmospheres, and experiences that CryEngine 2 is capable of creating... and if you look at the games I've suggested, they do all require huge terrestrial, aerial, aquatic, or urban environments. I still think CryEngine 2 is the ideal choice for many of the games people have listed here, and I think a lot of folks recommended games here BECAUSE Crysis felt like them in places (take JP-Russell's recommendation for the Descent games and think about how you felt in Crysis' zero-G levels : it's a natural conclusion to reach, and I totally agree with him. Parachute out of the plane at the very beginning of the game with the wind rushing in your face, clouds passing by, water droplets blurring your vision, and the ocean and island rushing up at you -- how can you NOT think of what it would be like to soar around that island on a carpet or a dragon? As the big four-legged war machines comes after you shattering trees left and right, how can you not imagine being a puny Clan Elemental with an Inner-Sphere mech in hot pursuit?) ;) Again, it's not just the pretty environments, it's the FEELING of those moments that we've had in Crysis which made us think of other games.
You seem to be implying that CryEngine 2 is only good for rendering huge expansive exteriors. Play Crysis from start to finish though, and you'll see that it's not all about huge panoramas crammed with lush vegetation. CryEngine 2 can also hold its own rendering interiors (like the alien ship, caves, and aircraft carrier) but what's more important is that it does those interiors gorgeously with better surfacing, lighting, and ATMOSPHERE than I've seen in any current-gen title.
Anyways, another huge plus is that when CryEngine loads a level, it can load a HUGE level. I completely discounted Unreal Engine 3.0 for any game like Drakkan, Magic Carpet, or Battlezone that requires a large world based entirely on the limitations I've experienced in titles produced with UE so far. (Consider Unreal 2, Republic Commando, Gears of War, Mass Effect, or any game based on Unreal tech and you'll notice a pattern -- levels are small/confining, loading is frequent, and all the pauses really take you out of the game. Hell, why do you think the flying vehicles in UT3 are so slow? Even the largest maps like Torlan are rather tiny... they slow you down to prevent you from running into the level's edge in a heartbeat...) ;)
When deciding something like "What engine would be best for a new Drakkan" for instance, you'd need to choose an engine that could render a world huge enough to fly in... so there were two which sprang immediately to mind. Bethesda's Renderware-based engine which was used for Oblivion/Fallout, and CryEngine 2. CryEngine won for a number of reasons -- first and foremost of which is that I really feel "connected" with the world and my avatar when I play Crysis, but not when I play Oblivion. Crytek's world seems more real, my avatar animates more realistically/smoothly within it, and most importantly, avatar and world actually seem VISIBLY CONNECTED. Even Bethesda's new Fallout 3 shows it's Oblivion heritage... the graphics still have a "cartoony" quality about them, the animations are stiff/jerky, and player/environment/NPCs often seem to end up with completely separate colour palettes (as a result the world seems like a bunch of 2D layers pasted together.) Five or ten years from now, you'll fire up Oblivion or Fallout and think "Gawd, that looks awful", but Crysis looks real enough now that you're apt to think that it still looks pretty good despite its age. ;) Why care about how a game will look in 5 years? CryEngine 2 and Crysis have only been available to modders for a short time now, and we've already got some stunning examples of what's possible -- have you seen what the Lost World Returns and Mechwarrior Living Legends teams has been doing? :o Little mod teams are creating total conversions that make paid dev-teams look like rank amateurs. What will CryEngine 2 modders be creating in a year or two? Most importantly, would you prefer a gorgeous, moddable Drakkan that gives you replayability through user-created maps and mods, or would you choose a non-moddable engine that makes the game a one-play-through throw-away title?
I may change my opinion about "ideal engines" once we try out Ubisoft's Dunia in FarCry 2 and find out how modable it is, but for now, CryEngine 2 has proven itself. There simply is no other engine that can render a world as realistically and immersively, and it is obviously rather moddable -- to me, that gives the games created CryEngine 2 more than a bit of staying power. ;)
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