What GPU will fit in this?

I bought a new PC couple of months ago and I wanted to replace the standard GPU that came with it (HD 5450) with the one I had in my old PC (9800GT) because its better. the guys at the store said: ''OK, we'll do that.'' then when they checked it, they said the 9800GT doesnt fit in my new comp. I'm like: ''WTF, why not?'' and they say: ''Well, the 9800GT is 2 years old and doesnt fit in this setup blablabla.'' I was like... ok... w/e.

so my question is: what is a good card that is not super expensive (around 200 - 300 euros maybe) that will fit in this setup?

Specs:

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Pentium Dual-Core CPU E6600 @ 3.06GHz
4GB RAM
ATI Radeon 5450
2TB Harddisk space

yea I know its not an uber hardcore gaming rig, but since I have no understanding about hardware I'm not gonna fiddle around with random parts.

I bought a new PC couple of months ago and I wanted to replace the standard GPU that came with it (HD 5450) with the one I had in my old PC (9800GT) because its better. the guys at the store said: ''OK, we'll do that.'' then when they checked it, they said the 9800GT doesnt fit in my new comp. I'm like: ''WTF, why not?'' and they say: ''Well, the 9800GT is 2 years old and doesnt fit in this setup blablabla.'' I was like... ok... w/e.

so my question is: what is a good card that is not super expensive (around 200 - 300 euros maybe) that will fit in this setup?

Specs:

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Pentium Dual-Core CPU E6600 @ 3.06GHz
4GB RAM
ATI Radeon 5450
2TB Harddisk space

yea I know its not an uber hardcore gaming rig, but since I have no understanding about hardware I'm not gonna fiddle around with random parts.

Postal_Guy

The only reason why the 9800GT wouldn't fit, would be because it is an AGP card instead of a PCI one... otherwise, the guys at that store are blowing smoke...

To answer your question, basically any card can be used, as long as you have enough space (length-wise) to fit the card...

The only reason why the 9800GT wouldn't fit, would be because it is an AGP card instead of a PCI one... otherwise, the guys at that store are blowing smoke...

To answer your question, basically any card can be used, as long as you have enough space (length-wise) to fit the card...

JimmyJumpy

No idea what that means but ok :P now I know what to look for.

finding a card that fits length-wise will be the 2nd issue, the casing is quite small

[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

The only reason why the 9800GT wouldn't fit, would be because it is an AGP card instead of a PCI one... otherwise, the guys at that store are blowing smoke...

To answer your question, basically any card can be used, as long as you have enough space (length-wise) to fit the card...

Postal_Guy

No idea what that means but ok :P now I know what to look for.

finding a card that fits length-wise will be the 2nd issue, the casing is quite small

What he probably meant by 'not fit' is that that system has some crappy power supply that does not have pci-e connectors or enough juice to power even a lowly 9800gt.

Open her up and let us know what it's got

What he probably meant by 'not fit' is that that system has some crappy power supply that does not have pci-e connectors or enough juice to power even a lowly 9800gt.

Open her up and let us know what it's got

Nerdbox87

The computer the OP bought is just a couple of months old, so, your assumption is a tad premature. As is my reply, maybe :lol:

Let's see what the OP has inside the box ;)

'A few months old' but with dated technology in it...i'm nearly certain it's got a generic 3-400w at best which would in real terms put out much less, and this should be considered before he buys a gaming card

'A few months old' but with dated technology in it...i'm nearly certain it's got a generic 3-400w at best which would in real terms put out much less, and this should be considered before he buys a gaming card

Nerdbox87

It came with a 5450... hardly dated, if you ask me ;)

DDR2 / Socket 775....

anyway we digress :)

DDR2 / Socket 775....

anyway we digress :)

Nerdbox87

DDR2 is Dated! :shock:

DDR2 / Socket 775....

anyway we digress :)

Nerdbox87

Well, since we're digressing, better do it good... you can throw yer machine out the window cuz it's dated amigo ;)

lol - to bring the topic back onto track since i've spun it on a tangent what we need;

- Power Supply Unit Details (either model number or photo of spec sticker on side)

- Case Details (either model number or photo with side panel off or clearance measurements)

- Motherboard model wouldn't hurt either

It's okay PostalGuy... you can come back now. The air has cleared :P

It's okay PostalGuy... you can come back now. The air has cleared :P

JimmyJumpy

lol I gotta sleep and work though :P

- Power Supply Unit Details: theres no sticker on the side but the computer is a HP Pavilion P6550

- Case Details: see above for model number

- Motherboard model: couldnt find this anywhere

I did find out in the meantime that it has 3 PCI-E x1 and 1 PCI-E x16 connections

dunno if that helps

EDIT: and the measurements of the case are: 175 x 414 x 387 mm

[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

It's okay PostalGuy... you can come back now. The air has cleared :P

Postal_Guy

lol I gotta sleep and work though :P

- Power Supply Unit Details: theres no sticker on the side but the computer is a HP Pavilion P6550

- Case Details: see above for model number

- Motherboard model: couldnt find this anywhere

I did find out in the meantime that it has 3 PCI-E x1 and 1 PCI-E x16 connections

dunno if that helps

EDIT: and the measurements of the case are: 175 x 414 x 387 mm

There's two models under that number, the P6550jp and the P6550Z. i found the "upgrade and servicing manual" of the 'jp' and that board has an AGP slot instead of a PCIe

So I guess you've got the 'Z' version, since your PC came with the 5450 card.

Here's the specs (link gives an error when embedding, so here it is 'naked': http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02250435&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_us/c02250435/loc:2&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&product=4242359. )

The 'Z' sadly has but a 300Watt power supply, so, when wanting to upgrade to a more power-hungry card, I fear you gonna have to install a dynamo and start pedalling yerself... because judging by the lay-out of these computers, the PSU is a tailor-made affair...

There's two models under that number, the P6550jp and the P6550Z. i found the "upgrade and servicing manual" of the 'jp' and that board has an AGP slot instead of a PCIe

So I guess you've got the 'Z' version, since your PC came with the 5450 card.

Here's the specs (link gives an error when embedding, so here it is 'naked': http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02250435&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_us/c02250435/loc:2&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us⟨=en&product=4242359. )

The 'Z' sadly has but a 300Watt power supply, so, when wanting to upgrade to a more power-hungry card, I fear you gonna have to install a dynamo and start pedalling yerself... because judging by the lay-out of these computers, the PSU is a tailor-made affair...

JimmyJumpy

So your telling me I cant put a card in there thats more powerfull then the 5450? sucks

[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

There's two models under that number, the P6550jp and the P6550Z. i found the "upgrade and servicing manual" of the 'jp' and that board has an AGP slot instead of a PCIe

So I guess you've got the 'Z' version, since your PC came with the 5450 card.

Here's the specs (link gives an error when embedding, so here it is 'naked': http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02250435&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_us/c02250435/loc:2&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us⟨=en&product=4242359. )

The 'Z' sadly has but a 300Watt power supply, so, when wanting to upgrade to a more power-hungry card, I fear you gonna have to install a dynamo and start pedalling yerself... because judging by the lay-out of these computers, the PSU is a tailor-made affair...

Postal_Guy

So your telling me I cant put a card in there thats more powerfull then the 5450? sucks

The problem is that the PDF "upgrade manual" of this '6550Z' shows the same case and innards as on the much older '6550jp'. The latter has a PSU which is turned on its side and appears to be slimmer than a standard PSU.

If you could measure your power supply (and see if it sits straight or on its side) then maybe you would be able to also switch PSU and get a higher performing card ;)

''If you could measure your power supply''

how do I do that?

''If you could measure your power supply''

how do I do that?

Postal_Guy

Turn off the computer, unplug the power supply and open the case by taking off the lefthand side panel (when you're looking at the front of the PC). Once the side panel is off, you take a measure and take note of the length, width and height of the power supply. Easy as pie.

I opened the case and took the 9800GT to see if it fit length-wise and it did. It dont really feel comfortable to change to much in the case.

I opened the case and took the 9800GT to see if it fit length-wise and it did. It dont really feel comfortable to change to much in the case.

Postal_Guy

That the 9800GT fits is positive. That you don't feel comfortable changing too much stuff inside your computer is understandable. But if you're going to want to use that 9800GT, you're going to have to switch to a more powerfull supply, so, you've got not much choice here.

Also, for starters, you don't need to take out the PSU to take its dimensions. You need to take those dimensions to make sure if an ordinary (read: standard) power supply will fit. ;)

[QUOTE="Postal_Guy"]

I opened the case and took the 9800GT to see if it fit length-wise and it did. It dont really feel comfortable to change to much in the case.

JimmyJumpy

That the 9800GT fits is positive. That you don't feel comfortable changing too much stuff inside your computer is understandable. But if you're going to want to use that 9800GT, you're going to have to switch to a more powerfull supply, so, you've got not much choice here.

Also, for starters, you don't need to take out the PSU to take its dimensions. You need to take those dimensions to make sure if an ordinary (read: standard) power supply will fit. ;)

I found this on the internet:

http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/1640/13/ati-radeon-hd-5670-test-stroomverbruik

its a dutch site but it basicly tests the PS of mid-range cards on Far cry 2 and idle. what I noticed was that the 9800GT is in the graph and is under 300W. So it fits length-wise and gets the PS it needs... then why the hell doesnt it work in my PC? and are any of these cards an option for me?

also: where the fk is the PSU in the case lolz?

[QUOTE="JimmyJumpy"]

[QUOTE="Postal_Guy"]

I opened the case and took the 9800GT to see if it fit length-wise and it did. It dont really feel comfortable to change to much in the case.

Postal_Guy

That the 9800GT fits is positive. That you don't feel comfortable changing too much stuff inside your computer is understandable. But if you're going to want to use that 9800GT, you're going to have to switch to a more powerfull supply, so, you've got not much choice here.

Also, for starters, you don't need to take out the PSU to take its dimensions. You need to take those dimensions to make sure if an ordinary (read: standard) power supply will fit. ;)

I found this on the internet:

http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/1640/13/ati-radeon-hd-5670-test-stroomverbruik

its a dutch site but it basicly tests the PS of mid-range cards on Far cry 2 and idle. what I noticed was that the 9800GT is in the graph and is under 300W. So it fits length-wise and gets the PS it needs... then why the hell doesnt it work in my PC? and are any of these cards an option for me?

also: where the fk is the PSU in the case lolz?

I'm from Belgium, Flanders. Flemish is like Dutch, so no problemo with that site... Okay so the wattage is at 291 under stress, with an i7 965 and 6GB RAM@1066MHz...

Now, although this was under stress, there's only 9 watt until max, that is, when your 300W PSU indeed goes all the way to 300...

On the other hand, since your PC isn't under stress from the moment you push the "on" button, the card should work.

The PSU is sitting right there where the power cord goes in ;)

PSU dimensions are:

15x12.7x7.7 centimeters

PSU dimensions are:

15x12.7x7.7 centimeters

Postal_Guy

Standard supplies are more or less the same (L15xW15xH8.5cm). I just hope that you've got a bit of room what the height of your PSU concerns (the 7.7 cm). If you have at least 8.5cm there, most power supplies will fit.

[QUOTE="Postal_Guy"]

PSU dimensions are:

15x12.7x7.7 centimeters

JimmyJumpy

Standard supplies are more or less the same (L15xW15xH8.5cm). I just hope that you've got a bit of room what the height of your PSU concerns (the 7.7 cm). If you have at least 8.5cm there, most power supplies will fit.

yea there is some room with the height about 9cm I would guess

get an ATI 5770, they're great cards, cost about $100 come with MIR, require very little power, have DX 11 support, and have crossfire support, so you can buy another one for decent performance.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161338