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Well, I played C&C3 yesterday, and I think it's great...had a lot of fun playing it multiplayer. And I hated Generals, too :)
 But yes - 9 is rather high. This game does offer nothing new, but then again, these days it's hard to find something new - I'm not supporting that, but I think this one kinda stands out for me... I'm surprised EA made it, I hate them and most of their filthy games, but the few that stand out are good.
 The problem with reviews is that it's very difficult not to be subjective... there're issues of relativity and preference to be considered, so I take reviews lightly. While I believe any rating oer 9 belongs only to games that shatter new ground (half life would deserve one), it seems gamespot like to give high reviews in general ...and I suppose that's OK, because it got me to try C&C3 despite my dislike of EA and Generals, and I'm glad I did.
so tell me, when this bias crap ever going to stop! What about the score for medieval 2? its fine, it got 8.9 or something, its very different from the original c&c formula. Why are you posting ridculous threads like this? Its just flame after flame each and every week at message boards and you topic creator, is continuing it? Shame on you!ElendilElessarI'm sorry you see my post that way. I feel i have made a valid point. I also feel many reviews on gamespot are far from objective and so many games recieve false score's. Of course this is my own opinion. gamespot has lost the plot in my opinion.
Coulden't agree me. It goes something like this:
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EA = Big money = gamespot = generous review = C&C3 = Nuff said.
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Coulden't agree me. It goes something like this:
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EA = Big money = gamespot = generous review = C&C3 = Nuff said.
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The days of an objective opinion are over. PLAY BEFORE YOU BUY.
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LOL. Or maybe he was a fan of the CC series....and that added a little bias.
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But from what I have been hearing...COH should have scored higher. Â
Well, GS overrated it a bit, but that stuff happens.-Karayan-
Exactly, it happens with everything. No need to take it over the top, that's why you don't trust just one source. The reviewer could have been a long time C&C fan; he might just not have liked COH; he might like the real video; who knows? It happens.Â
People seem to be missing my point. Its not that c&c is a bad game, nor is it that it shouldn't have scored 9. I love c&c 3, playing it alot. I just feel to give it the same score as a game such as coh is ridiculous. coh was obviously under scored. The fact is the gulf in quality between these 2 games is huge, in favour of coh. The usual things that drop a games score on gamespot, things like unoriginality, dated graphics and gameplay seem to have been pushed to one side with this review. Its almost as if they pick and choose which games to apply these review guidelines to.Frozzikdon't forget to leave out one of the things that will keep a score HIGH on gamespot - polish. a lack of stupid bugs, everything working roughly as it should. they're both good games, though they shoot for fairly different things. they're both fun. what you're trying to do is say that no arcade racing game should ever outscore a sim racing game for any reason, because the sim packs in so much more - customization, options, car choices, realism, whatever.. it's ignoring that some people want to play the arcade style. they're different takes on the same genre. they're different takes on the same genre, and it's pretty well noted in either review. ditto for supreme commander.
C&C3 is simply a blast to play. Its fast, its dirty, its beautiful looking (low rez textures wtf are you talking about!?), requires tactics, its got a great story with those classic FMVs we all love...what more do you freaking want out of an RTS?
It really puts to shame any RTS thats been released in the past few years. You people beat on it because its "old school" or a "rehash" but comeon, outside of Homeworld and Dawn of War nothing in the genre has really changed that significantly. C&C 3 says "F***it, I am gonna take what I do best and give these people a great game that reminds them of their best times back in 1995!"
OK, C&C scored a 9 on gamespot. I say this is fine. I remember company of heroes also getting a 9 and medieval 2 even less. What is going on here? Don't get me wrong, i love C&C 3 but to put this game in the same league as CoH is just crazy. C&C is an old school rts that really brings nothing new to the table. Its graphics are also rather average by todays standards. This is yet another example of the strange and simply bizarr scores we are seeing more and more of here on gamespot. CoH was different, amazing to play, amazing to look at and a true next gen rts, to say c&c is just as good is quite simply an insult to all in the gameplaying world.Frozzik
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When do you people GET IT...
 A game dosnt have to have something new to be great... A game or a movie can be just as great as something innovative or even better then that if its highly entertaining, and thats where cnc 3 comes in, ITS HIGHLY ENTERTAINING, and thats all that matters. Innovative is great to, but if its not entertaining then why play it...
 This is just my personnaly opionion, but yes a game like sup com is innovative, but it didnt entertain me. Far Cry was innovative on the fps front, and that did entertain me, so it can go eiter way, so stop saying that its not in the same leauge as an innovative game, offcourse it is if its ENTERTAINING...
[QUOTE="ElendilElessar"]so tell me, when this bias crap ever going to stop! What about the score for medieval 2? its fine, it got 8.9 or something, its very different from the original c&c formula. Why are you posting ridculous threads like this? Its just flame after flame each and every week at message boards and you topic creator, is continuing it? Shame on you!FrozzikI'm sorry you see my post that way. I feel i have made a valid point. I also feel many reviews on gamespot are far from objective and so many games recieve false score's. Of course this is my own opinion. gamespot has lost the plot in my opinion. There are a few games where I will agree. Too High: Gears of War, Perfect Dark Zero, WarioWare. Too Low: Zelda: TP, Red Steel, Mario Party, Mario Kart 64, and others...They have their alliances, but I feel they're pretty decent on PC reviews....Although I feel STALKER was a bit high.
When do you people GET IT...
 A game dosnt have to have something new to be great... A game or a movie can be just as great as something innovative or even better then that if its highly entertaining, and thats where cnc 3 comes in, ITS HIGHLY ENTERTAINING, and thats all that matters. Innovative is great to, but if its not entertaining then why play it...
 This is just my personnaly opionion, but yes a game like sup com is innovative, but it didnt entertain me. Far Cry was innovative on the fps front, and that did entertain me, so it can go eiter way, so stop saying that its not in the same leauge as an innovative game, offcourse it is if its ENTERTAINING...
mimic-Denmark
mimic-Denmark, as usual, is correct. At the end of the day, innovation can be nice for sure, but the real measure of a game is how fun and entertaining it is. I do like the fact that EA did add more options to the skirmish, most notably the AI personality of the computer-controlled players. Combine that with the handicaps which can be adjusted in increments of 5%, and you have the ability to customize the difficulty of a skirmish game to a level that is unmatched by any other RTS game that I'm aware of.
[QUOTE="mimic-Denmark"]When do you people GET IT...
 A game dosnt have to have something new to be great... A game or a movie can be just as great as something innovative or even better then that if its highly entertaining, and thats where cnc 3 comes in, ITS HIGHLY ENTERTAINING, and thats all that matters. Innovative is great to, but if its not entertaining then why play it...
 This is just my personnaly opionion, but yes a game like sup com is innovative, but it didnt entertain me. Far Cry was innovative on the fps front, and that did entertain me, so it can go eiter way, so stop saying that its not in the same leauge as an innovative game, offcourse it is if its ENTERTAINING...
Ebougile
mimic-Denmark, as usual, is correct. At the end of the day, innovation can be nice for sure, but the real measure of a game is how fun and entertaining it is. I do like the fact that EA did add more options to the skirmish, most notably the AI personality of the computer-controlled players. Combine that with the handicaps which can be adjusted in increments of 5%, and you have the ability to customize the difficulty of a skirmish game to a level that is unmatched by any other RTS game that I'm aware of.
Exactly. Like you said, innovation is nice (as with Homeworld) but we give our money in order to be entertained, and I will take generic yet rock-solid gameplay over a few "innovative" gimmicks any day.
[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="ElendilElessar"]so tell me, when this bias crap ever going to stop! What about the score for medieval 2? its fine, it got 8.9 or something, its very different from the original c&c formula. Why are you posting ridculous threads like this? Its just flame after flame each and every week at message boards and you topic creator, is continuing it? Shame on you!Staryoshi87I'm sorry you see my post that way. I feel i have made a valid point. I also feel many reviews on gamespot are far from objective and so many games recieve false score's. Of course this is my own opinion. gamespot has lost the plot in my opinion. There are a few games where I will agree. Too High: Gears of War, Perfect Dark Zero, WarioWare. Too Low: Zelda: TP, Red Steel, Mario Party, Mario Kart 64, and others...They have their alliances, but I feel they're pretty decent on PC reviews....Although I feel STALKER was a bit high.
They have alliances? What the hell are you talking about?! Just like I said before, when do this Gamespot being bias to other consoles ever going to stop! And just why are you saying that zelda bs again? Just stop acting like babies people, and grow up, and if you don't like gamespot reviews, then go to the unprofessional sites like IGN and read their opinion
They also gave it 9 for graphics, that made me go wtf considering I run it on max with 16XQ AA and the textures are so low res.ElectricNZThe textures aren't low-res. I think the reason why they seem low-res to you is because of your AA level. From what I've seen, certain types of anti-alasing blur the screen, making everything, well, blurry. Try turning off application AA and setting it in the game. Use either level 1, 3, or 4; level 2 uses quincunx (2xQ) which blurs the image. (From what I've read, the quincunx method filters kernels of adjacent subpixel of the parent pixel which produces a smoother image at little cost to performance, but it comes with a nasty side effect: the image is blurred.)
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