What is the cheapest PC you can game and edit well with?

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#1 pickettsticket
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I have a limited budget so cheapest is best. I have got this but do not know if it will handle games and editing well: sapphire radeon HD 7750 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-Radeon-HD7750-Graphics-GDDR5/dp/B00761YFPW/ref=sr_1_7?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1353852587&sr=1-7 Phemon II X4 black edition http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-HDZ965FBGMBOX-Phenom-II-965/dp/B002SRQ214/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1353851836&sr=1-1 ASRock 960GM-GS3 AM3+ http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-960GM-GS3-FX-Motherboard-Instant/dp/B006HHD8AY/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1353851918&sr=1-3 1TB Western Digital caviar http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Internal/dp/B006GDVREI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1353799363&sr=8-3 Corsair 16gb ram http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-16GB-1600MHz-Vengeance-Memory/dp/B007TG8QRW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1353799408&sr=8-4 Coolermaster elite 430 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RC-430-KWN1-Elite-Window/dp/B003OEDJTI/ref=sr_1_14?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1353852500&sr=1-14 OCZ 600w PSU http://www.amazon.co.uk/OCZ-OCZ600MXSP-UK-ModXStream-Power-Supply/dp/B001GLFD54/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1353852003&sr=1-1 That is around £400 plus the Wireless adapter, Windows 7, Mouse and Keyboard comes to £140 So far that is ££540 Will that do some games and editing well? If not how can I cheaply make it better.
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#2 MaskedPlayer
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Dumb down the ram to 8gb

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#3 pickettsticket
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That ram is on a good deal, the 8gb options are practically the same price.
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What kind of settings would this be able to run games on? Would the HD 7770 be a better investment?
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What kind of settings would this be able to run games on? Would the HD 7770 be a better investment?
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For editing work hard drive speed is important and you've picked a green drive. Pick at least a caviar blue, preferable black, or a fast drive from another company like samsung (spinpoint F3 is good).

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What kind of settings would this be able to run games on? Would the HD 7770 be a better investment?
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For editing work hard drive speed is important and you've picked a green drive. Pick at least a caviar blue, preferable black, or a fast drive from another company like samsung (spinpoint F3 is good).

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Thanks, will get the black caviar 1tb
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For editing, you need a good program. Avid's Media Composer and Adobe's Premier Pro allow you to allocate RAM to the application. The more RAM you have the better. If you are serious about editing then get 16Gb. For the storage, you need to have a fast scratch disc and a disc for all your encoded footage. For the scratch disc either go for two 256Gb SSD's in RAID 0 or if thats too expensive then go for two 7200RPM drives in RAID 0.
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#11 pickettsticket
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For editing, you need a good program. Avid's Media Composer and Adobe's Premier Pro allow you to allocate RAM to the application. The more RAM you have the better. If you are serious about editing then get 16Gb. For the storage, you need to have a fast scratch disc and a disc for all your encoded footage. For the scratch disc either go for two 256Gb SSD's in RAID 0 or if thats too expensive then go for two 7200RPM drives in RAID 0. clyde46
Yes I am planning to get CS6, Sony Vegas, and after affects, I do want to get a SSD to load them on but its another £60 for a 60gb ssd. Would the Caviar black 1tb do http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-WD1002FAEX-Caviar-Internal/dp/B0036Q7MV0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353877159&sr=8-1 and what would the gaming capabilities be like on this?
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Dude honestly get off Amazon and use a proper online store like dabs, scan, overclockers etc - yes you may find the occasional thing cheaper on Amazon but not often.

A 120gb SDD is 80 quid on most those sites so 60 quid for 60gb is bad

Theres a 7770 for the same price as your 7750http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7770-dd-core-edition-4500mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-1000mhz-640-cores-dp-dl-dvi-i-hdmi

Theres 8gb of the same ram for you at 30 quid - half the price of the 16gb...............surprisingly ;) http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-lp-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v

Also if possible dont bother with a wifi adapter and plug your PC straight into the modem, now this may not be possible but really if your PC is only a few metres away from the modem buy a cable.

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If you get us a set or semi-flexible budget we can probably be a bit more helpful "cheapest" isn't very descriptive when we don't know how well or poorly you're wanting things to run.
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Dude honestly get off Amazon and use a proper online store like dabs, scan, overclockers etc - yes you may find the occasional thing cheaper on Amazon but not often.

A 120gb SDD is 80 quid on most those sites so 60 quid for 60gb is bad

Theres a 7770 for the same price as your 7750http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7770-dd-core-edition-4500mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-1000mhz-640-cores-dp-dl-dvi-i-hdmi

Theres 8gb of the same ram for you at 30 quid - half the price of the 16gb...............surprisingly ;) http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-lp-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v

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Ha, its just habbit, amazons just my natural place to start looking for everything
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If you get us a set or semi-flexible budget we can probably be a bit more helpful "cheapest" isn't very descriptive when we don't know how well or poorly you're wanting things to run.General_X
Well ideally the PC components would be no more than £600, i would need 16gb ram, a relatively powerful cpu 4 core or more and whatever else needed for good gaming and editing.
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Do you need an OS with that as well? And what type of editing programs are you using?

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Do you need an OS with that as well? And what type of editing programs are you using?

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No, i have accounted for the os, keyboard and mouse outside that cost. it will need to run sony vegas pro, cs6 and after affects
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Now my next question, will this be more a gaming machine, editing machine, or equal parts both? A primarily editing machine would probably mean that more should be spent on the processor while less allocated for the GPU, the opposite will be true for a machine primarily for gaming. If it's about half and half a balance will have to be stuck.
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Dude honestly get off Amazon and use a proper online store like dabs, scan, overclockers etc - yes you may find the occasional thing cheaper on Amazon but not often.

A 120gb SDD is 80 quid on most those sites so 60 quid for 60gb is bad

Theres a 7770 for the same price as your 7750http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7770-dd-core-edition-4500mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-1000mhz-640-cores-dp-dl-dvi-i-hdmi

Theres 8gb of the same ram for you at 30 quid - half the price of the 16gb...............surprisingly ;) http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-lp-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v

Also if possible dont bother with a wifi adapter and plug your PC straight into the modem, now this may not be possible but really if your PC is only a few metres away from the modem buy a cable.

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I've ordered PC parts from Amazon. Nothing wrong with them. They come quicker than OCUK and Scan thats for sure.
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[QUOTE="5SI-GonePostal"]

Do you need an OS with that as well? And what type of editing programs are you using?

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No, i have accounted for the os, keyboard and mouse outside that cost. it will need to run sony vegas pro, cs6 and after affects

Dont bother with Vegas, get Premier.
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#21 pickettsticket
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Now my next question, will this be more a gaming machine, editing machine, or equal parts both? A primarily editing machine would probably mean that more should be spent on the processor while less allocated for the GPU, the opposite will be true for a machine primarily for gaming. If it's about half and half a balance will have to be stuck.General_X
i would have to say more towards editing, but still a capable gaming rig
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[QUOTE="pickettsticket"][QUOTE="5SI-GonePostal"]

Do you need an OS with that as well? And what type of editing programs are you using?

clyde46
No, i have accounted for the os, keyboard and mouse outside that cost. it will need to run sony vegas pro, cs6 and after affects

Dont bother with Vegas, get Premier.

I have heard of some real bad problems with CS6, is it a better bet than vegas?
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#24 General_X
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Here's what I'd do for an editing machine for ~£600 that's also competent at gaming: Case - Corsair Carbide Series 200R Motherboard - AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard Processor - Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K RAM - 16GB-Kit G.Skill Ares Hard drive - Samsung F3 1TB PSU - Corsair CMPSU-500CX GPU - XFX ATI Radeon HD6850 DVD Drive - Asus DRW-24B5ST
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Is the radeon Hd 6850 better than the hd 7770?
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#26 General_X
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Is the radeon Hd 6850 better than the hd 7770?pickettsticket
They're roughly the same, the 6850 is just a hair more powerful but the 7770 is a fair bit more efficient. I don't know how they compare when they're both overclocked however.
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[QUOTE="General_X"]Here's what I'd do for an editing machine for ~£600 that's also competent at gaming: Case - Corsair Carbide Series 200R Motherboard - AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard Processor - Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K RAM - 16GB-Kit G.Skill Ares Hard drive - Samsung F3 1TB PSU - Corsair CMPSU-500CX GPU - XFX ATI Radeon HD6850 DVD Drive - Asus DRW-24B5ST

Everything is good expect the video card. Most editing software uses Cuda to help with rendering. I dont know if they also use AMD cards.
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#28 General_X
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="General_X"]Here's what I'd do for an editing machine for ~£600 that's also competent at gaming: Case - www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Compact-Computer/dp/B009GXZ8MM/" title="www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Compact-Computer/dp/B009GXZ8MM/">Corsair Carbide Series 200R Motherboard - http://www.amazon.co.uk/AsRock-Z77-Motherboard-Socket-Capacitor/dp/B007MHC6K6/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/AsRock-Z77-Motherboard-Socket-Capacitor/dp/B007MHC6K6/">AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard Processor - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NX2/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NX2/">Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K RAM - http://www.amazon.co.uk/16GB-Kit-G-Skill-Ares-PC3-12800U-CL10-10-10-30/dp/B007CCWZLG/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/16GB-Kit-G-Skill-Ares-PC3-12800U-CL10-10-10-30/dp/B007CCWZLG/">16GB-Kit G.Skill Ares Hard drive - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-HD103SJ-internal-SATAII-7200RPM/dp/B002MQC0P8/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-HD103SJ-internal-SATAII-7200RPM/dp/B002MQC0P8/">Samsung F3 1TB PSU - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-500CX-Builder-Series-Supply/dp/B0045Y1EJ8/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-500CX-Builder-Series-Supply/dp/B0045Y1EJ8/">Corsair CMPSU-500CX GPU - http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-HD6850-Graphics-Memory/dp/B0047ZH7FU/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-HD6850-Graphics-Memory/dp/B0047ZH7FU/">XFX ATI Radeon HD6850 DVD Drive - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-DRW-24B5ST-Internal-SATA-Drive/dp/B007IKS7AU/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-DRW-24B5ST-Internal-SATA-Drive/dp/B007IKS7AU/">Asus DRW-24B5ST

Everything is good expect the video card. Most editing software uses Cuda to help with rendering. I dont know if they also use AMD cards.

I know there's an AMD equaivalent these days, OpenCL I believe? Either way in that price range he probably wouldn't be able to get anything with any significant number of CUDA cores. That said you're right, if a program takes advantage of CUDA it could be a significant advantage in rendering things, unfortunately you may have to sacrafice some game performance to get a card with CUDA cores in your budget: GTX 650 If you want to look for used cards the 560 or 560ti might fall in your budget and would net you both good performance and the advantage of CUDA cores.
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[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="General_X"]Here's what I'd do for an editing machine for ~£600 that's also competent at gaming: Case - www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Compact-Computer/dp/B009GXZ8MM/" title="www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Compact-Computer/dp/B009GXZ8MM/">Corsair Carbide Series 200R Motherboard - http://www.amazon.co.uk/AsRock-Z77-Motherboard-Socket-Capacitor/dp/B007MHC6K6/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/AsRock-Z77-Motherboard-Socket-Capacitor/dp/B007MHC6K6/">AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard Processor - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NX2/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NX2/">Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K RAM - http://www.amazon.co.uk/16GB-Kit-G-Skill-Ares-PC3-12800U-CL10-10-10-30/dp/B007CCWZLG/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/16GB-Kit-G-Skill-Ares-PC3-12800U-CL10-10-10-30/dp/B007CCWZLG/">16GB-Kit G.Skill Ares Hard drive - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-HD103SJ-internal-SATAII-7200RPM/dp/B002MQC0P8/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-HD103SJ-internal-SATAII-7200RPM/dp/B002MQC0P8/">Samsung F3 1TB PSU - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-500CX-Builder-Series-Supply/dp/B0045Y1EJ8/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-500CX-Builder-Series-Supply/dp/B0045Y1EJ8/">Corsair CMPSU-500CX GPU - http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-HD6850-Graphics-Memory/dp/B0047ZH7FU/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-HD6850-Graphics-Memory/dp/B0047ZH7FU/">XFX ATI Radeon HD6850 DVD Drive - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-DRW-24B5ST-Internal-SATA-Drive/dp/B007IKS7AU/" title="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-DRW-24B5ST-Internal-SATA-Drive/dp/B007IKS7AU/">Asus DRW-24B5ST

Everything is good expect the video card. Most editing software uses Cuda to help with rendering. I dont know if they also use AMD cards.

I know there's an AMD equaivalent these days, OpenCL I believe? Either way in that price range he probably wouldn't be able to get anything with any significant number of CUDA cores. That said you're right, if a program takes advantage of CUDA it could be a significant advantage in rendering things, unfortunately you may have to sacrafice some game performance to get a card with CUDA cores in your budget: GTX 650 If you want to look for used cards the 560 or 560ti might fall in your budget and would net you both good performance and the advantage of CUDA cores.

The 5** are much better as the 6** had the number of Cuda cores cut.
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="pickettsticket"] No, i have accounted for the os, keyboard and mouse outside that cost. it will need to run sony vegas pro, cs6 and after affectspickettsticket
Dont bother with Vegas, get Premier.

I have heard of some real bad problems with CS6, is it a better bet than vegas?


I use after effects and premiere
i have no problems with either

I have never used vegas

if you want is special effects, vegas isn't really the program for that.

After effects is

Premiere is for putting all your footage together, etc.


But I am sure you already know this, just saying it again for any1 else.


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[QUOTE="General_X"]Here's what I'd do for an editing machine for ~£600 that's also competent at gaming: Case - Corsair Carbide Series 200R Motherboard - AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard Processor - Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K RAM - 16GB-Kit G.Skill Ares Hard drive - Samsung F3 1TB PSU - Corsair CMPSU-500CX GPU - XFX ATI Radeon HD6850 DVD Drive - Asus DRW-24B5ST

I like the build Its just a BD should surely be needed for burning HD content?and will the applications run well on a hdd without a ssd? What are the benefits of cuda core gpu's for editing and what do they limit you to in gaming thanks for the help
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#32 General_X
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I've never had problems running After Effects and Premiere Pro with just a standard HDD, but ofcourse I only edited together smallish clips so your mileage may vary. From my experience though the programs load up your working footage in RAM while the HDD is only used if there isn't enough RAM to fit the playback of the video you're working on. What type of content are you burning? Yes a Blu-Ray burner would be needed to burn Blu-Rays obviously, but it would be good to make sure you NEED to burn Blu-Rays before springing for a burner, who are you delivering this content too? Would it be easier to network transfer? These are all things that you can answer better than we can.
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I've never had problems running After Effects and Premiere Pro with just a standard HDD, but ofcourse I only edited together smallish clips so your mileage may vary. From my experience though the programs load up your working footage in RAM while the HDD is only used if there isn't enough RAM to fit the playback of the video you're working on. What type of content are you burning? Yes a Blu-Ray burner would be needed to burn Blu-Rays obviously, but it would be good to make sure you NEED to burn Blu-Rays before springing for a burner, who are you delivering this content too? Would it be easier to network transfer? These are all things that you can answer better than we can.General_X
nothing too serious, i am into my sports and have some projects of my own i want to edit some 3D 1080p clips which i guess will not have to be burned (downhill mtb mostly) and i am taking a course at school thanks to one of my teachers, i will also be planning on helping friends and taking small commissions for small animations or general video editing, so nothing overly complex but im just starting out so want to have the equipment to progress with.
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The only problem i have is the school has very limited resources when it comes to software, i will be learning on photoshop and some limited video editing software. They have no software thats great for animations so i need to have a PC i can take things to the next level with.
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[QUOTE="General_X"]I've never had problems running After Effects and Premiere Pro with just a standard HDD, but ofcourse I only edited together smallish clips so your mileage may vary. From my experience though the programs load up your working footage in RAM while the HDD is only used if there isn't enough RAM to fit the playback of the video you're working on. What type of content are you burning? Yes a Blu-Ray burner would be needed to burn Blu-Rays obviously, but it would be good to make sure you NEED to burn Blu-Rays before springing for a burner, who are you delivering this content too? Would it be easier to network transfer? These are all things that you can answer better than we can.pickettsticket
nothing too serious, i am into my sports and have some projects of my own i want to edit some 3D 1080p clips which i guess will not have to be burned (downhill mtb mostly) and i am taking a course at school thanks to one of my teachers, i will also be planning on helping friends and taking small commissions for small animations or general video editing, so nothing overly complex but im just starting out so want to have the equipment to progress with.

I've never edited any 3D material but editing uncompressed footage is tough on the drive if you dont have enough RAM. I've got 8GB of RAM in my Macbook Pro which Premier having access to 6Gb of that. If your looking at loading the footage with special effects then more RAM is better. The HDD only really affects the performance of unrendered footage. Premier allows you to edit without having to render the entire sequence if you have the hardware to cope.
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#36 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="pickettsticket"]The only problem i have is the school has very limited resources when it comes to software, i will be learning on photoshop and some limited video editing software. They have no software thats great for animations so i need to have a PC i can take things to the next level with.

If it's special effects, adobe after effects is what you want. If you are into cartoon styled animation, you want flash. Technically you do flash styled cartoons in after effects if you want your life to be crappy.
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#37 pickettsticket
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="pickettsticket"]The only problem i have is the school has very limited resources when it comes to software, i will be learning on photoshop and some limited video editing software. They have no software thats great for animations so i need to have a PC i can take things to the next level with.

If it's special effects, adobe after effects is what you want. If you are into cartoon styled animation, you want flash. Technically you do flash styled cartoons in after effects if you want your life to be crappy.

Definitely not cartoon affects so i will pick up cs6 photoshop, premiere and after effects. so with that in mind and what I have in mind ( 3d editing, animations, 1080p, gaming at decent level what will be best for £600) is the PC general x good enough or is it not possible for £600 or under?
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#38 JigglyWiggly_
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Yes they will all run fine. After effects ia a ram hog.

3d stuff runs on anything, I use blender for very casual stuff.

Only model I've ever worked on

it takes like 3 seocnds to render and it has a lot of polygons, and subsurface scattering, and SSAO.

and my avatar

viewing 3d is fast on anything, render times vary greatly based on your cpu though.

I must stress though, after effects eats ram.

It's fine for games as well, you'll be fine.

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#39 pickettsticket
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So will premiere allow for the editing of 3D 1080p video footage aswell, or is it limited to 720p? And as for the build hyper suggested, is there anyway a cuda gpu could be switched in that offers still good gaming and work better for the editing side of things? without bumping the price up much.
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#40 JigglyWiggly_
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Yes you can edit in 1080p, it all depends on how efficient you are. CUDA? Well, you'd need a nvidia gpu, I think 3dsmax supports it. I think 3dsmax supports opencl. Blender does with the cycles render, except it has too many issues. It also supports opencl which ati cards support, but it's even more broken.
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#41 pickettsticket
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Ok, working on Hypers set up, does this look good?  All I need is the cheapest Nvidia CUDA card, thanks for the help guys
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#42 JigglyWiggly_
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You don't really need cuda unless you are doing some high polygon renders lol

and the performance benefit would probably only be on a high end nvidia card like a 580 or 680

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#43 JigglyWiggly_
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oh wait actually you can see some benchmarks here http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?239480-2.61-Cycles-render-benchmark
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#44 pickettsticket
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You don't really need cuda unless you are doing some high polygon renders lol

and the performance benefit would probably only be on a high end nvidia card like a 580 or 680

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I will (hopefully) get round to high polygon rendering. But if I was to just get a GPU for the purpose of gaming more what would you recommend keeping it on the cheap side?
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#45 pickettsticket
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Unless the 7770 is a capable card
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#46 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

You don't really need cuda unless you are doing some high polygon renders lol

and the performance benefit would probably only be on a high end nvidia card like a 580 or 680

pickettsticket

I will (hopefully) get round to high polygon rendering. But if I was to just get a GPU for the purpose of gaming more what would you recommend keeping it on the cheap side?

Well for high poylgon rendering you can just hit subdivide on your model 500 times ;p  http://blog.accelereyes.com/blog/2012/04/26/benchmarking-kepler-gtx-680/

The 680's performance is all over in cuda, but if you want a cuda gpu.

Get a 580 or 680.

Otherwise I doubt you'll be much faster than cpu.

But honestly, you should already know how to 3d model before you start investing in things you might not even need if you find you don't like 3d modelling that much, etc.

Cuda is always nice in backtrack 5 though, wpa2

you are no match for john the ripper and cuda

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#47 General_X
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Unless the 7770 is a capable cardpickettsticket
The 7770 is very capable for the price, definitely the best gaming card in it's price bracket. GPU acceleration is nice in the programs that support it, but it's so hit in miss now that the trade-off to go Nvidia for games in this price bracket isn't worth it. I think the build you posted above should work quite well for what you're wanting to do.
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#48 pickettsticket
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[QUOTE="pickettsticket"]Unless the 7770 is a capable cardGeneral_X
The 7770 is very capable for the price, definitely the best gaming card in it's price bracket. GPU acceleration is nice in the programs that support it, but it's so hit in miss now that the trade-off to go Nvidia for games in this price bracket isn't worth it. I think the build you posted above should work quite well for what you're wanting to do.

That's reassuring. Can not wait to put it together and see what I can do with it.
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#49 pickettsticket
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Where would you recommend buying the following in the UK? CS6 Photoshop CS6 Premiere Adobe After Effects Thanks
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#50 jun_aka_pekto
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I wonder if the image quality of videos using GPU processing (Nvidia CUDA and ATI Stream) have improved. The last time I looked was back in 2010. GPU processing of video renders was actually quicker than the CPU. But, the image quality wasn't as good as using the CPU.