What should I uprgrade FIRST?

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#1 Sik_kid_pk
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Ok, first off I hope i'm posting this in the right place lol. But I got a Toshiba satellite laptop for christmas and wanted to try and get into PC gaming. I'm a total noob to the whole PC gaming thing so bare with me.

These are my specs:

The processor is an AMD Sempron SI-42 2.10 GHZ

Graphics are a ATI Radeon 3100

2GB DDR2 800MHz memory

250GB HDD (5400rpm)

Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit)

So I wanna know, what are the main things that I should be upgrading and what should I be upgrading to? thanks in advance.

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#2 buriedtwice
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Upgrading a laptop = buying a whole new laptop.

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#3 C_Rule
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You can't really upgrade laptops. I guess you could add more RAM (2gb), that would help a bit.

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#4 Sik_kid_pk
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Why can't you upgrade laptops? out of curiosity....
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#5 nameless125
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Why can't you upgrade laptops? out of curiosity....Sik_kid_pk
It's a lot harder, and more expensive then upgrading desktops.
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#6 Sik_kid_pk
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[QUOTE="Sik_kid_pk"]Why can't you upgrade laptops? out of curiosity....nameless125
It's a lot harder, and more expensive then upgrading desktops.

What is it that makes it more exspensive? I really just wanna play like Mass Effect 2 and whatever, I'm really not tryna run Crysis or nothin like that lol
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#7 metacritical
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because everything is built into the motherboard. taking a part a laptop is itself not an easy thing to do, well it is but putting it back together again isn't. if you were to replace the graphics card, you would have to physically remove the graphic chips from the motherboard and then actually find a replacement set of chips which is also not an easy thing to find. laptops are no like PCs where you can just remove the old components and then slot a new one in in about 10 seconds, typically you need to solder the bits back in
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because everything is built into the motherboard. taking a part a laptop is itself not an easy thing to do, well it is but putting it back together again isn't. if you were to replace the graphics card, you would have to physically remove the graphic chips from the motherboard and then actually find a replacement set of chips which is also not an easy thing to find. laptops are no like PCs where you can just remove the old components and then slot a new one in in about 10 seconds, typically you need to solder the bits back inmetacritical
Oh damn, so i guess i'm pretty much screwed?
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yes, you bought a non-gaming laptop, and a very low end laptop as well. you might be able to play games on the absolute lowest settings but i wouldn't expect much from it. as a general rule, the cheaper the laptop the less likely it will be able to play games. you have a slow CPU, a terrible graphics card, slow RAM and a slow HDD (5400rpm reduce access speed by quite a bit).
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yes, you bought a non-gaming laptop, and a very low end laptop as well. you might be able to play games on the absolute lowest settings but i wouldn't expect much from it. as a general rule, the cheaper the laptop the less likely it will be able to play games. you have a slow CPU, a terrible graphics card, slow RAM and a slow HDD (5400rpm reduce access speed by quite a bit).metacritical
Damn... lol Thanks though.
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yes, you bought a non-gaming laptop, and a very low end laptop as well. you might be able to play games on the absolute lowest settings but i wouldn't expect much from it. as a general rule, the cheaper the laptop the less likely it will be able to play games. you have a slow CPU, a terrible graphics card, slow RAM and a slow HDD (5400rpm reduce access speed by quite a bit).metacritical
because everything is built into the motherboard. taking a part a laptop is itself not an easy thing to do, well it is but putting it back together again isn't. if you were to replace the graphics card, you would have to physically remove the graphic chips from the motherboard and then actually find a replacement set of chips which is also not an easy thing to find. laptops are no like PCs where you can just remove the old components and then slot a new one in in about 10 seconds, typically you need to solder the bits back inmetacritical
But it can be done, right? like at a computer shop or something?
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[QUOTE="metacritical"]yes, you bought a non-gaming laptop, and a very low end laptop as well. you might be able to play games on the absolute lowest settings but i wouldn't expect much from it. as a general rule, the cheaper the laptop the less likely it will be able to play games. you have a slow CPU, a terrible graphics card, slow RAM and a slow HDD (5400rpm reduce access speed by quite a bit).Sik_kid_pk
because everything is built into the motherboard. taking a part a laptop is itself not an easy thing to do, well it is but putting it back together again isn't. if you were to replace the graphics card, you would have to physically remove the graphic chips from the motherboard and then actually find a replacement set of chips which is also not an easy thing to find. laptops are no like PCs where you can just remove the old components and then slot a new one in in about 10 seconds, typically you need to solder the bits back inmetacritical
But it can be done, right? like at a computer shop or something?

You can change a laptops GPU and CPU, but your options are going to be VERY limited, and it won't be much of an upgrade.
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[QUOTE="metacritical"]yes, you bought a non-gaming laptop, and a very low end laptop as well. you might be able to play games on the absolute lowest settings but i wouldn't expect much from it. as a general rule, the cheaper the laptop the less likely it will be able to play games. you have a slow CPU, a terrible graphics card, slow RAM and a slow HDD (5400rpm reduce access speed by quite a bit).Sik_kid_pk
because everything is built into the motherboard. taking a part a laptop is itself not an easy thing to do, well it is but putting it back together again isn't. if you were to replace the graphics card, you would have to physically remove the graphic chips from the motherboard and then actually find a replacement set of chips which is also not an easy thing to find. laptops are no like PCs where you can just remove the old components and then slot a new one in in about 10 seconds, typically you need to solder the bits back inmetacritical
But it can be done, right? like at a computer shop or something?

no. laptop construction is designed for those parts only. even if you could put more powerful parts in it, you would have problems with the cooling. you can't actually replace GPU by soldering new one in. there's other components affecting it too. you're gonna have to get a new laptop... some higher end gaming laptops have removable GPU (MXM module for example) that can be replaced. unfortunately, you don't have one.
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[QUOTE="metacritical"]yes, you bought a non-gaming laptop, and a very low end laptop as well. you might be able to play games on the absolute lowest settings but i wouldn't expect much from it. as a general rule, the cheaper the laptop the less likely it will be able to play games. you have a slow CPU, a terrible graphics card, slow RAM and a slow HDD (5400rpm reduce access speed by quite a bit).Sik_kid_pk
because everything is built into the motherboard. taking a part a laptop is itself not an easy thing to do, well it is but putting it back together again isn't. if you were to replace the graphics card, you would have to physically remove the graphic chips from the motherboard and then actually find a replacement set of chips which is also not an easy thing to find. laptops are no like PCs where you can just remove the old components and then slot a new one in in about 10 seconds, typically you need to solder the bits back inmetacritical
But it can be done, right? like at a computer shop or something?

Everything can be done. But finding someone who'd be willing to do it would be like finding water in the Sahara. And if you finally find someone, it's gonna cost you more than a new laptop would cost.

So, the first thing you should invest in is a piggy-bank ;)

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sir you are effectively boned as replacing a cpu or gpu in a laptop while possible and in your case a worthwhile endeavour preformance wise.. is about as easy as solving a rubix cube with the force.. and your not a jedi!

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#16 Katsumic
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Yeah :( The ONLY thing easy to upgrade in a laptop are the hard drive and RAM unfortunately.. Upgrading the CPU or Graphics would probably end up costing more than the laptop itself. I did also take apart my old Dell Inspiron and replaced a fan, but even that was a hassle. Out of luck really :(

If you're looking at games, aim for games ~4 years old or more I think.