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#1 Davyvfr
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What should I look for when buying RAM for my system? How do I know what is a good timing? And is a lower latency better?

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#2 Silicel1
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well you dont need super low latency ram unless you want the latest and best and you are a crazy overclocker, generally stay away from brands that you never heard of and you should be safe, know what type of ram you need ddr 3 or 2, triple channel or dual channel. 8)

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#3 Davyvfr
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DDR3 RAM for an ASUS P8P67 Motherboard. Dual Channel. 1600mhz is good and a low latency would be great. Also, just wondering, if I get a dedicated hard-drive for my operating system and a seperate hard drive for a game, then would I need a RAID controller?

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#4 Daytona_178
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Get Corsair Vengeance RAM. Its 1.5v which is recommended for the Sandy Bridge's memory controller.

Its also 1600Mhz which is pretty fast. Because on the K series CPU's you overclock with the Turbo Boost multiplier you dont need super fgast RAM to get to 4.8-5.0Ghz overclocks, which was the case with core2duo's :)

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#5 Avenger1324
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Depends what you are planning to do with it - just leave it at the speeds you buy it at, or if you plan to do some beefy overclocking.

Start by looking at your motherboard and seeing both what type and rated speed it will support. New motherboards will all be DDR3, while if you are buying RAM for an older motherboard it may be DDR2. Check to see if you need dual or triple channel RAM - basically buy your RAM in packs that match this - so a matching pair for dual channel, and 3 for triple.

The motherboard spec should also state the highest capacity stick each slot will support - not likely to be a limiting factor on a new build, but might be if you are upgrading an old board.

Now for the speeds and timings. Your RAM will run at the slower of either the rating of the RAM or the maximum supported by the motherboard. Put 1600MHz RAM into a slot that only supports up to 1333MHz it will run at 1333. Put a stick of 1333 into a slot that supports 1600 and you will only get 1333. The same applies if you use RAM sticks of different speeds - they will all run at the speed of the slowest stick. Simple buying advice - if you can afford the RAM with the fastest rating your motherboard supports, then buy that, if not go one speed down and it should be cheaper. In real world performance dropping one or two speed ratings isn't going to make a massive impact and suddenly lose you 20fps, but you might lose a couple. It's really there for enthusiasts who want to overclock and get every last drop out of their system.

RAM timings are a balance between performance and stability. Providing the system is stable then tighter (lower numbers) timings should mean better performance as it takes less time between operations, and so could do more every second. However it become a bit of a dark art if you want to go tweaking the timings. To some extent they could be seen as a quality indicator on the sticks you are buying. Generally all the sticks will have been built from the same chips, but some are a better quality than others. The parts that are capable of running at better speeds can be sold at a higher price, so are branded up with tighter timings or higher frequencies, when in reality the same chip of a lower quality will be on another stick, just branded at a worse rating.

Finally a legacy issue, but if you are still running a 32-bit OS it will only be able to recognise a maximum of 4GB (including graphics memory). If you have a 64-bit OS then you shouldn't be seeing any practical limitation.

A bit long-winded but should cover most issues :)

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#6 Urworstnhtmare
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency#Effect_on_memory_access_speed

Good table there showing the effect of a low CAS latency compared to a higher frequency.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233147

Im getting those...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency#Effect_on_memory_access_speed

Good table there showing the effect of a low CAS latency compared to a higher frequency.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233147

Im getting those...

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Great choice!
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#8 Urworstnhtmare
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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency#Effect_on_memory_access_speed

Good table there showing the effect of a low CAS latency compared to a higher frequency.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233147

Im getting those...

Daytona_178

Great choice!

Low latency. 1600Mhz. 1.5V. Oh and its Corair. Whats not to like?

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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency#Effect_on_memory_access_speed

Good table there showing the effect of a low CAS latency compared to a higher frequency.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233147

Im getting those...

Urworstnhtmare

Great choice!

Low latency. 1600Mhz. 1.5V. Oh and its Corair. Whats not to like?

The high fins *might* make occupying ALL DIMM slots impossible if you have a very large cooler like the Thermaltake Frio. Thats all I can think of.
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#10 Urworstnhtmare
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Actually what is SPD? The SPD speed and latency Corsair give is different to the tested ones... :?

http://www.corsair.com/vengeance-8gb-dual-channel-ddr3-memory-kit-cmz8gx3m2a1600c8.html

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#11 Urworstnhtmare
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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"] Great choice!Daytona_178

Low latency. 1600Mhz. 1.5V. Oh and its Corair. Whats not to like?

The high fins *might* make occupying ALL DIMM slots impossible if you have a very large cooler like the Thermaltake Frio. Thats all I can think of.

O oh. The CMV10 is a large cooler... Its also on my shopping list...

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#12 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

Low latency. 1600Mhz. 1.5V. Oh and its Corair. Whats not to like?

Urworstnhtmare

The high fins *might* make occupying ALL DIMM slots impossible if you have a very large cooler like the Thermaltake Frio. Thats all I can think of.

O oh. The CMV10 is a large cooler... Its also on my shopping list...

Hmmmmm, maybe you should try to find out the dimensions of these RAM modules.
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#13 Scottisme
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this stuff looks decent http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231536

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#14 J_Edwards
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Check the RAM Type that fit in your motherboard, then size of the RAM, Check also the warranty period...
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#15 wis3boi
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this stuff looks decent http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231536

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and you bumped a 2 year old topic, why?