what's better HP or Dell?

I was wondering, which of these two is a better pc company and have the best computers.

Well if we are talking about laptops then Dell is much better, HP is THE worst major manufacturer of laptops!

I was wondering, which of these two is a better pc company and have the best computers.

FiFa_kirikiki

A recent survey!

Hp's have more bang for buck on desktops, but their laptops are crap.

Dell is more expensive for everything, but the laptops are better.

Pick your poison.

Id just go with dell. Safer choice overall. And they have a great warranty.

Alright, soooo... which desktop company should I trust and be satisfied with?FiFa_kirikiki

[QUOTE="FiFa_kirikiki"]Alright, soooo... which desktop company should I trust and be satisfied with?UltimateGamer95

I dissagree with this. I got a PC built at a local tigerdirect and had nothing but problems, after rma'ing the most of my parts, i sold it.

I bought a Gateway which i would have paid equal, or more for if i built it. And i have a warrenty.

If you build a PC, do it yourself and make sure its right. Then pray you dont run into issues.

Im not saying dont build computers, it saves alot of money. But i am in canada, and computer stuff here is expensive. Sometimes i can get better deals from companies.

[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"][QUOTE="FiFa_kirikiki"]Alright, soooo... which desktop company should I trust and be satisfied with?Crypt_mx

I dissagree with this. I got a PC built at a local tigerdirect and had nothing but problems, after rma'ing the most of my parts, i sold it.

I bought a Gateway which i would have paid equal, or more for if i built it. And i have a warrenty.

If you build a PC, do it yourself and make sure its right. Then pray you dont run into issues.

Im not saying dont build computers, it saves alot of money. But i am in canada, and computer stuff here is expensive. Sometimes i can get better deals from companies.

[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"] none. You should either build your own or have someone build it for you ;) :)UltimateGamer95

I dissagree with this. I got a PC built at a local tigerdirect and had nothing but problems, after rma'ing the most of my parts, i sold it.

I bought a Gateway which i would have paid equal, or more for if i built it. And i have a warrenty.

If you build a PC, do it yourself and make sure its right. Then pray you dont run into issues.

Im not saying dont build computers, it saves alot of money. But i am in canada, and computer stuff here is expensive. Sometimes i can get better deals from companies.

Do people actually give you money to build them computers? It just seems fishy to me.

Excuse me CryP_MX but Every-time you want a gaming pc it is cheaper to make it ur own on every deal I seen in 2 Year I'm Canadian : one of the best Canadian PC builder around i can't even count as well the people iv helped in usa to build there pc via newegg.com

and Rascoqaz no need to give the money to the person . you just need to trust how she/he will spend ur money from ur budget to get the very best of ur buck $$ MY reputation is Very high on building pc so is ultimategamer95 even tough she builded less pc then me perhaps but she know as much and i support her

the thing is if you want a real sweet gaming pc in canada it cost from 700$ to 1000$ and il pick everything from a list On newegg.ca / ncix.com / directcanada So you need 9 Part's In a PC : 10 If you Overclock (The Afermarket cpu cooler)

here Example of a Expensive Build : core i7 920 285$ + X58 250$ + 3x2GB Ram 180-200$ = around 820$ include TAX / Shipping
Then you need a PSU 64.99 - 150$ / HDD 100$-120$ for 1TB / VIDEO CARd 100-400$ / OS 125$

all you need after is the DVD Drive / Cpu cooler and you'r in the Gaming at 1680x1050 / 1920x1200 with very good experience
but then again you can find a cheaper build with an Am3 socket & DDR3 but if you OC the AM3 Socket they wil perform very close to Core i7 920

it up to you too you topic Creator if you do it ur self the pc will end up Twice Faster then any pre-build iv checked many time there just no pre-build sales even at tigerdirect.ca that does beat own build part by part even tough some deal where close for mobo & cpu deal but then iv done better many time

100% agree with post above i wouldn't buy bomb fom HP to kill myself

right now i have one of their laptops and having installed Win 7

can't find any drivers on their site .Their CS in Europe is rubbish, build it yourself,i built first PC

simply by following instructions on some piece of paper that came with MB it works to this day :D

When you build you can pick and mix parts that you want not some cheap stuff they sell you .

[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"][QUOTE="Crypt_mx"] That's why I build computers for people in Canada ;)rascoqaz

Do people actually give you money to build them computers? It just seems fishy to me.

Excuse me CryP_MX but Every-time you want a gaming pc it is cheaper to make it ur own on every deal I seen in 2 Year I'm Canadian : one of the best Canadian PC builder around i can't even count as well the people iv helped in usa to build there pc via newegg.com

and Rascoqaz no need to give the money to the person . you just need to trust how she/he will spend ur money from ur budget to get the very best of ur buck $$ MY reputation is Very high on building pc so is ultimategamer95 even tough she builded less pc then me perhaps but she know as much and i support her

the thing is if you want a real sweet gaming pc in canada it cost from 700$ to 1000$ and il pick everything from a list On newegg.ca / ncix.com / directcanada So you need 9 Part's In a PC : 10 If you Overclock (The Afermarket cpu cooler)

here Example of a Expensive Build : core i7 920 285$ + X58 250$ + 3x2GB Ram 180-200$ = around 820$ include TAX / Shipping
Then you need a PSU 64.99 - 150$ / HDD 100$-120$ for 1TB / VIDEO CARd 100-400$ / OS 125$

all you need after is the DVD Drive / Cpu cooler and you'r in the Gaming at 1680x1050 / 1920x1200 with very good experience
but then again you can find a cheaper build with an Am3 socket & DDR3 but if you OC the AM3 Socket they wil perform very close to Core i7 920

it up to you too you topic Creator if you do it ur self the pc will end up Twice Faster then any pre-build iv checked many time there just no pre-build sales even at tigerdirect.ca that does beat own build part by part even tough some deal where close for mobo & cpu deal but then iv done better many time

marcthpro

Excuse me CryP_MX but Every-time you want a gaming pc it is cheaper to make it ur own on every deal I seen in 2 Year I'm Canadian : one of the best Canadian PC builder around i can't even count as well the people iv helped in usa to build there pc via newegg.com

and Rascoqaz no need to give the money to the person . you just need to trust how she/he will spend ur money from ur budget to get the very best of ur buck $$ MY reputation is Very high on building pc so is ultimategamer95 even tough she builded less pc then me perhaps but she know as much and i support her

the thing is if you want a real sweet gaming pc in canada it cost from 700$ to 1000$ and il pick everything from a list On newegg.ca / ncix.com / directcanada So you need 9 Part's In a PC : 10 If you Overclock (The Afermarket cpu cooler)

here Example of a Expensive Build : core i7 920 285$ + X58 250$ + 3x2GB Ram 180-200$ = around 820$ include TAX / Shipping
Then you need a PSU 64.99 - 150$ / HDD 100$-120$ for 1TB / VIDEO CARd 100-400$ / OS 125$

all you need after is the DVD Drive / Cpu cooler and you'r in the Gaming at 1680x1050 / 1920x1200 with very good experience
but then again you can find a cheaper build with an Am3 socket & DDR3 but if you OC the AM3 Socket they wil perform very close to Core i7 920

it up to you too you topic Creator if you do it ur self the pc will end up Twice Faster then any pre-build iv checked many time there just no pre-build sales even at tigerdirect.ca that does beat own build part by part even tough some deal where close for mobo & cpu deal but then iv done better many time

marcthpro

Alright, soooo... which desktop company should I trust and be satisfied with?FiFa_kirikiki

[QUOTE="FiFa_kirikiki"]Alright, soooo... which desktop company should I trust and be satisfied with?imprezawrx500

Very good advice !

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HP is better at least they never locked their computer with own standards in the past.

HP is better at least they never locked their computer with own standards in the past.

SLIisaownsystem

HP is better at least they never locked their computer with own standards in the past.

SLIisaownsystem

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

HP is better at least they never locked their computer with own standards in the past.

UltimateGamer95

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

HP is better at least they never locked their computer with own standards in the past.

UltimateGamer95

i hate the roll smiley people are using it for everything now days.

[QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"]

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

HP is better at least they never locked their computer with own standards in the past.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="UltimateGamer95"] ???:? :roll:

UltimateGamer95

you should learn it its an internal language.

Well im canadian, and i got the pc you see in my rig for 1500 about 5 months ago.

GTX 285= 450$(newegg.ca or tigerdirect.ca)

Core i7 920= 300$

12gb ddr3 ram= 400$

750 watt psu= 120$

thats 1220 already, not including tax. And not including motherboard. But i also got a warrenty, a keyboard and mouse, a free windows 7 upgrade.

So id say my pc was a pretty good deal.

If you live in canada, i dont know how your getting the prices you mentioned. It is impossible.

well 400$ = HD5870 = Better then 285GTX : and iv mention from 100-400$ GPU setup's so basically
core i7 920 : 300$+200$ 3x2GB + a 80-120$ PSU + X58 at 228$ you get 500+80-100+228$ = 828$

+5% if outside of BC Sales Tax that doesn't involve PST : Example Ontario / Quebec / Alberta / Manitoba / Saskatchewan does pay onyly the 5% GST of the tax when purchasing from www.ncix.com : While newegg.ca so far Quebec don't pay the PST and only the GST but ontario pay both

So if you calculate a 400$ GPU = 1200$ + A OS / HDD = 125$+64.99/119,99$ (depending of the HDD) = 1200+125$=1325+1TB would be +100$ = 1425$CAD : You add Tax & shipping = 1500$ around : and it an enthusiast 1920x1200 PC :

If he doesn't have 1920x1200 / 1680x1050 you add +150-300$ a monitor do hope those mathematics Equation sound right to you ? it not impossible it just take Knowledge iv acquired that with experience & Benchmark

That would be a enthusiast Builds But I regard him fron against any pre-build i can defeat it by a large margin my experience is very high in building pc he would as well get suggestion from a Bunch of member that help people there at last a dozen of us daily active including me & ultimategamer95 Being the most Active & popular : Can't help it ;)

well now, my intentions stand on getting a desktop, not a laptop. I already have a basic laptop, Acer, which runs good and I dont use it for high performance stuff, but for college homeworks and other basic uses. FiFa_kirikiki

Dell Xps 630 isn't to bad. I gots an e8400 with 4 gigs of ram and a gtx 285. Though I should've got a quad core argh!!!!

no ultimategamer95 doesn't charge : unless she doing weird purolator / ups shipping for build it at her home then send you back lolll Anyway i can do it as well :P but ultimategamer95 want to build it that badly lol

so if you don't know how to assemble it at home a tech from a local pc shop will do it mostly for 50$US such as a Tigerdirect.com store / Micro-center and Small Local PC shop : also some Technical support PC Business that are Local may offer the option

Iv Build PC damn a Lot of Time and me and ultimategamer95 mostly all come to the same part seleciton in enthusiast PC we can go in a Suggestion
Maybe id suggest if you pay lot

CPU Core i7 920 2.6Ghz D0 Stepping (Potential of Overclock to 4.2 / 4.3ghz with Cpu Cooler suggested below)
Motherboard X58 Gigabyte UD5 + 3x2GB 1600mhz (maybe the OCZ reaper Low voltage)
GPU : HD5970 600$(The performances of TWO 5870 IF you do the overclock)
Power supply 750-1000w 100-200$
Case HAF 932 140-160$
HDD : 1TB Samsung spintpoint F3 80$ : the Fastest 1TB
OS : Window 7 OEM Home premium 64 Bits 120$ / Professional 64 Bits 140$

Cpu Cooler : For Overclocking Prolimatech megahalems + 1x 120mm Fan Scythe ultra kaze 3000rpm

With that that would be Very High Enthusiast PC Build for Gaming that does beat any competitor on all aspect : let see what you come with UG ;)

But I was wondering can't I just upgrade my graphic card and cpu? I keep the rest? will it run ok?

But I was wondering can't I just upgrade my graphic card and cpu? I keep the rest? will it run ok?

FiFa_kirikiki