What's the best guild wars game?

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#1 -Unreal-
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Best game to start from. I was thinking the latest game Nightfall because I would get everything from the previous games, except maybe the other missions, but that wouldn't bother me. I'm just thinking about it as a side game beside WoW.

If I buy from PlayNC will they send a key and let me download the client or do they send the disks?

Oh, and about the game. How similar is loot to an MMO game. Are there rare drops, auctions, sales and things like that?

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The game is not very gear based at all, so loot and epics and so forth isn't really a concern. The PvE in the game is almost non-existant. It is primarily about travelling and doing the missions where you learn to play your class, all while leveling very quickly to 20, where you basically PvP after that. As for which one to get, you need the original, but I would say get Factions, because that gives you the most new features for your $.
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You should be carefull about what you say if you value your forum privellages.
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You should be carefull about what you say if you value your forum privellages.-Unreal-

Quite frankly, I don't. Which is the reason I posted that in the first place. So take your internet threats elsewhere.

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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]You should be carefull about what you say if you value your forum privellages.Nikolicious

Quite frankly, I don't. Which is the reason I posted that in the first place. So take your internet threats elsewhere.

Thing is, you are calling me a geek, yet you are the one getting all annoyed over the fact I have a signature that calls a game (inanimate object) puny.

Uhuh. i noticed you said "internet threats" lmao. Yeah I'd be too scared to threaten such a hardcore metal fan like you.

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[QUOTE="Nikolicious"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]You should be carefull about what you say if you value your forum privellages.-Unreal-

Quite frankly, I don't. Which is the reason I posted that in the first place. So take your internet threats elsewhere.

Thing is, you are calling me a geek, yet you are the one getting all annoyed over the fact I have a signature that calls a game (inanimate object) puny.

Uhuh.

Oh boy! You really got me on that one! I succumb to your greatness. Douche.

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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="Nikolicious"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]You should be carefull about what you say if you value your forum privellages.Nikolicious

Quite frankly, I don't. Which is the reason I posted that in the first place. So take your internet threats elsewhere.

Thing is, you are calling me a geek, yet you are the one getting all annoyed over the fact I have a signature that calls a game (inanimate object) puny.

Uhuh.

Oh boy! You really got me on that one! I succumb to your greatness. Douche.

Yeah, sarcasm only works if you can actually prove you were being sarcastic by making an argument against what I said. Too much work for you though I guess.

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just buy eye of the north when it comes out then you'll have everything you need.
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just buy eye of the north when it comes out then you'll have everything you need.jrhawk42

Yeah but it says I need one of the other games.

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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]just buy eye of the north when it comes out then you'll have everything you need.-Unreal-

Yeah but it says I need one of the other games.



Nightfall for the best entertainment value, Factions if you just want to rush through the game to prepare for Eye of the North.

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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]just buy eye of the north when it comes out then you'll have everything you need.-Unreal-

Yeah but it says I need one of the other games.

I think you actually NEED proph with that one.

I'd get them all, hehe. It's the only MMO I've enjoyed, and I've tried alot of them. Just the style of the game suits me alot more. I recrommend getting proph. Though I enjoyed all the campaigns that one was definantly the most memoriable.

Factions would be the best if you want to get to lvl 20 real fast.

And NF is kinda inbetween the two with how fast you advance in level. Also you get heroes... which I love using. Only time I really play with people is in pvp.

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[QUOTE="Nikolicious"][QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="Nikolicious"]

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]You should be carefull about what you say if you value your forum privellages.-Unreal-

Quite frankly, I don't. Which is the reason I posted that in the first place. So take your internet threats elsewhere.

Thing is, you are calling me a geek, yet you are the one getting all annoyed over the fact I have a signature that calls a game (inanimate object) puny.

Uhuh.

Oh boy! You really got me on that one! I succumb to your greatness. Douche.

Yeah, sarcasm only works if you can actually prove you were being sarcastic by making an argument against what I said. Too much work for you though I guess.

Yeah, you're right. I've heard enough of your weak come backs. This topic is an epic fail.

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Why do you need something to play besides WoW? That game has so much to do it seems pointless.

But I would look into what each of them deliver and then decide.

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You should be carefull about what you say if you value your forum privellages.-Unreal-

dude....youre suuuuuch a geek , hahaha dont take yourself so seriously

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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]You should be carefull about what you say if you value your forum privellages.kambion313

dude....youre suuuuuch a geek , hahaha dont take yourself so seriously

Lmao! That proves my point.

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Factions!
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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]just buy eye of the north when it comes out then you'll have everything you need.-Unreal-

Yeah but it says I need one of the other games.

If you're only going to buy one, get Nightfall. It has the most content, the most players, the most skills and the most interesting missions.

Oh, and Nightfall is 'multi-linear' (you can choose the path that the storyline takes, in some cases - allowing for different missions are heroes), making it more replayable than the other campaigns.

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Best game to start from. I was thinking the latest game Nightfall because I would get everything from the previous games, except maybe the other missions, but that wouldn't bother me. I'm just thinking about it as a side game beside WoW.

If I buy from PlayNC will they send a key and let me download the client or do they send the disks?

Oh, and about the game. How similar is loot to an MMO game. Are there rare drops, auctions, sales and things like that?

-Unreal-

PM me.

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Best game to start from. I was thinking the latest game Nightfall because I would get everything from the previous games, except maybe the other missions, but that wouldn't bother me. I'm just thinking about it as a side game beside WoW.

If I buy from PlayNC will they send a key and let me download the client or do they send the disks?

Oh, and about the game. How similar is loot to an MMO game. Are there rare drops, auctions, sales and things like that?

-Unreal-

Yes, Nightfall would probably be the best game to get if you don't plan on buying the previous installments. However the next title "Eye of the North" you will need the original game "Prophecies" as it is an expansion and not a stand alone game like Factions and Nightfall.

If you buy from PlayNC I believe you just get an Activation Key, you would need to download the client and download/install the game without the discs. (Pain in the ass if you have Dial up).

About loot, armour is purchased from armour crafters in various towns, peices of armour do not drop from mobs, however materials needed to craft the armour do. So an armour crafter might require 20 peices of cloth to craft your gloves, you would then have to either buy the cloth, or kill mobs until you get cloth drops. Weapons on the other hand can be dropped from mobs, or be crafted (crafted weapons are pretty basic). There are certain "rare" mobs in the world that drop "rare" weapons, these weapons can usually be obtained by farming that particular mob.

However to add another dynamic to this, there are certain modications that can be given to weapons to improve upon their base statistics, for example, you might have a bow drop from a mob, then a few kills later you might get a "Fiery bow string" which can then be added to your bow to shoot fiery arrows instead of normal arrows. Ofcourse this is just a basic explanation, but you get the idea.

There are no in-game auction houses like WoW, usually people who want to buy or sell stand around in major cities spamming there items. This may sound bad, but it acts like a traders hub.

Guildwars is an Awesome game, however you will only get the best experience if you own all 3 titles, as the 3 worlds combined make for a huge amount of content. Hope this helps.

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Don't mind the trolls. I bought Factions and was sorely disappointed, so don't get that :P
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#22 Planeforger  Online
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Yes, Nightfall would probably be the best game to get if you don't plan on buying the previous installments. However the next title "Eye of the North" you will need the original game "Prophecies" as it is an expansion and not a stand alone game like Factions and Nightfall.

xxPanicxx

Actually, according to the official site, you can play EotN with any of the previous games - not just Prophecies.

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Wow... what abunch of uninformed meatheads.

No PvE? Uh... yeah... Okay. If you really just want to PvP, there is the PvP edition that gives you all the skills. If you level to 20 and then try to PvP without any Elite skills, you'll lose every time. And many of the best Elite skills are only available towards the end of the campaign. There are, actually, quite a few PvE areas (besides the campaign) such as The Deep, Fissure of Woe, Underworld, Tomb of Primevil Kings, Gate of Anguish, Depths of Madness, etc.

Anywho. Each has it's advantage. Nightfall has heroes (customizable henchmen), Factions has Alliance Battles, and Prophecies has... well, it has pre-searing. :p And NOyou don't need Prophecies in order to play Eye of the North. You only need any one of the 3 campaigns. However, Eye of the North is a continuation of the Prophecies storyline, so you might be kind of confused about what all is happening if you've never played Prophecies.

As for the OP's questions...

If you order online from PlayNC, they will e-mail you a passkey. You will need to download the client (which is free) from the Guild Wars website. (the e-mail should include full instructions) No discs will be sent to you.

Yes there is rare loot. White items are common. Blue are special but fairly common. Purple are medium. Golds are rare and are the most powerful (though not always perfect stats). There are also Greens, which are very rare and are only dropped by bosses.

There is no auction house, but there is a trade channel. If you do want to auction items, the Guild Wars Guru trade forum is the best place to do so.

Personally, if you're gonna get only one of them, I'd recommend Nightfall. Then get Factions for Alliance Battles, and then get Prophecies if you want to.

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Ok thanks for the replies. I'm gonna try Guild Wars again sometime down the line, maybe after the expansion is out. I just kinda bought another WoW account (my third) so I'll hold off.

Is there a GW2 in the works? Think I read it somewhere. If there is, I'd wait for that instead.

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Yeah GW2 is in the works. It's slated for late 2009.

Still though, it will be worth it to play GW1, because GW1's expansion pack, Eye of the North, is going to have a feature where you can transfer your characters legacy, titles, status, fame and fortune, and glory over to GW2 when you start a new character. GW2 takes place 200 years in the future.

A WOW player like yourself, won't find the same strengths. GW has very few and rather boring items. There is a lack of weapon skins. The stats are very low capped. It means that after a couple of hours you can find the most damading sword in the game. For swords that is 15-22. 15 Minimum damage, and 22 Maxmimum. Of course you can find some with rare extra abillities and stats(like +5 energy) but asa hole the gear is weaksause.

The only way to get the few armors, is to buy or find or extract materials and go to a armorer in town who can craft them to you. No armor drops on NPCs like in WoW.

The layout in GW is simple. There is no Z-Coordination. Thats why you cant jump. It's the lack of height. you cant jump over hills. its linear. Still some of the areas are rather big.

Character customization is okay. but you can only be human. On the upside though, all the human classes look different, and also different in each campaign. Classes from Nightfall look African, Middle easteren. Classes from Factions look Asian, and does from the original looks European. There is a okay amount of hair styles and faces. No height/weight thou.

So what is the beauty of guild wars? It's the skills. collecting the skills is what is going to get you pumped. GW is the game for people who are looking for a real challange. the kind of people who wanna make their own kick ass build from a pool of 100s of skills and endless combinations with the two class system.

The GW fanbase is big, but is devided into 2 main groups. the PvEers and the PvPers. Thats what they spent their time on doing in the end game. In PvP guilds from all over fight for being the best in the entire world. In PvE people try to get titles, complete all the many missions, explore, finding perfect and rare weapons and of course trying to play the insane recently introduced hard mode.

Best time to start GW? I don't know. The game is just over 2 years now, so it will soon go into its "prime". its best year. long after GW2 comes out, people will still play GW1, because they can create their legacy from their GW2 characters while doing and achiving stuff in GW1. GW2 will also be radical different. I mean seriously different. In GW2 they are talking about no instanced worlds, a lvl 100 cap!!! and other stuff.

No doubt that many will stick to GW1. Just like many people still stick with everquest 1 or neverwinter nights 1, even thou the sequels are great.

Arenanet have said that they will continue to support GW1, and keep the servers up.

GW is awesome. I just started a new character and after a minute of getting to old ascalon, there stood many people in line to help give me starter money and help me do missions.

Unreal you have had a rough edges with many GW fans in the past. I urge you to check the game out someday. In fact I think that they will soon host a free weekend where everyone can come try the game.

Its so far away from WoW as it can be in many ways. It will take time and effort from a WoW veteran to recognize its strengths, and I am dead serious about that.

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Yeah GW2 is in the works. It's slated for late 2009.

Still though, it will be worth it to play GW1, because GW1's expansion pack, Eye of the North, is going to have a feature where you can transfer your characters legacy, titles, status, fame and fortune, and glory over to GW2 when you start a new character. GW2 takes place 200 years in the future.

A WOW player like yourself, won't find the same strengths. GW has very few and rather boring items. There is a lack of weapon skins. The stats are very low capped. It means that after a couple of hours you can find the most damading sword in the game. For swords that is 15-22. 15 Minimum damage, and 22 Maxmimum. Of course you can find some with rare extra abillities and stats(like +5 energy) but asa hole the gear is weaksause.

The only way to get the few armors, is to buy or find or extract materials and go to a armorer in town who can craft them to you. No armor drops on NPCs like in WoW.

The layout in GW is simple. There is no Z-Coordination. Thats why you cant jump. It's the lack of height. you cant jump over hills. its linear. Still some of the areas are rather big.

Character customization is okay. but you can only be human. On the upside though, all the human classes look different, and also different in each campaign. Classes from Nightfall look African, Middle easteren. Classes from Factions look Asian, and does from the original looks European. There is a okay amount of hair styles and faces. No height/weight thou.

So what is the beauty of guild wars? It's the skills. collecting the skills is what is going to get you pumped. GW is the game for people who are looking for a real challange. the kind of people who wanna make their own kick ass build from a pool of 100s of skills and endless combinations with the two class system.

The GW fanbase is big, but is devided into 2 main groups. the PvEers and the PvPers. Thats what they spent their time on doing in the end game. In PvP guilds from all over fight for being the best in the entire world. In PvE people try to get titles, complete all the many missions, explore, finding perfect and rare weapons and of course trying to play the insane recently introduced hard mode.

Best time to start GW? I don't know. The game is just over 2 years now, so it will soon go into its "prime". its best year. long after GW2 comes out, people will still play GW1, because they can create their legacy from their GW2 characters while doing and achiving stuff in GW1. GW2 will also be radical different. I mean seriously different. In GW2 they are talking about no instanced worlds, a lvl 100 cap!!! and other stuff.

No doubt that many will stick to GW1. Just like many people still stick with everquest 1 or neverwinter nights 1, even thou the sequels are great.

Arenanet have said that they will continue to support GW1, and keep the servers up.

GW is awesome. I just started a new character and after a minute of getting to old ascalon, there stood many people in line to help give me starter money and help me do missions.

Unreal you have had a rough edges with many GW fans in the past. I urge you to check the game out someday. In fact I think that they will soon host a free weekend where everyone can come try the game.

Its so far away from WoW as it can be in many ways. It will take time and effort from a WoW veteran to recognize its strengths, and I am dead serious about that.

LuffyTubby

Quick correction, there is a heigth option. ^-^

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Oh yeah, right. My mistake

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