What's the cheapest rig that will run BF3 and Metro 2033 maxed out?

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#1 Daanyal
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Hi,

Mate of mine is building a rig. What's the cheapest rig that will run BF3 and Metro 2033 at maxed settings (by maxed I mean no setting spared, everything fully turned up), at 1680 x 1050, at a constant 30+ fps?

Would a 3570K (overclocked as far as possible on an H100i), 16GB of RAM and a 670 (overclocked as far as possible) do it?

Thanks

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Yes but Metro's a **** to run

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#3 rogelio22
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Hi,

Mate of mine is building a rig. What's the cheapest rig that will run BF3 and Metro 2033 at maxed settings (by maxed I mean no setting spared, everything fully turned up), at 1680 x 1050, at a constant 30+ fps?

Would a 3570K (overclocked as far as possible on an H100i), 16GB of RAM and a 670 (overclocked as far as possible) do it?

Thanks

Daanyal

pfft... at that rez youll get a constant 60fps with bf3 and over 30 on metro with a 670

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#4 Elann2008
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3570k, 8GB+ ram, and a 670... you better be gaming at a higher resolution than 1680x1050. And you would want 60fps with those specs. But yes, if you're looking to max out games and run them butter smooth. That would be a nice start.

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#5 Daanyal
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3570k, 8GB+ ram, and a 670... you better be gaming at a higher resolution than 1680x1050. And you would want 60fps with those specs. But yes, if you're looking to max out games and run them butter smooth. That would be a nice start.

Elann2008

So he'll have a constant 60 fps at 1050? Sweet. He's looking to upgrade to a Dell IPS, but his current monitor is a 1680 x 1050 Acer.

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#7 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

3570k, 8GB+ ram, and a 670... you better be gaming at a higher resolution than 1680x1050. And you would want 60fps with those specs. But yes, if you're looking to max out games and run them butter smooth. That would be a nice start.

Daanyal

So he'll have a constant 60 fps at 1050? Sweet. He's looking to upgrade to a Dell IPS, but his current monitor is a 1680 x 1050 Acer.

Yeah he'll be able to max out both games. You can check out Metro 2033 benchmark here.

If he's going to invest in nice components like those, he should at least game at 1080p. A monitor upgrade too.

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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

3570k, 8GB+ ram, and a 670... you better be gaming at a higher resolution than 1680x1050. And you would want 60fps with those specs. But yes, if you're looking to max out games and run them butter smooth. That would be a nice start.

Daanyal

So he'll have a constant 60 fps at 1050? Sweet. He's looking to upgrade to a Dell IPS, but his current monitor is a 1680 x 1050 Acer.

Not with metro, he'll even dip below 30 at some parts
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#9 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

3570k, 8GB+ ram, and a 670... you better be gaming at a higher resolution than 1680x1050. And you would want 60fps with those specs. But yes, if you're looking to max out games and run them butter smooth. That would be a nice start.

GamingVengeance

So he'll have a constant 60 fps at 1050? Sweet. He's looking to upgrade to a Dell IPS, but his current monitor is a 1680 x 1050 Acer.

Not with metro, he'll even dip below 30 at some parts

With a 670, he should be fine. It might dip into the 50's here and there. Or just play DX9, and run it smooth with very little difference in graphics. :) Metro 2033 benchmark
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#10 Obiwan_1O
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Hi,

Mate of mine is building a rig. What's the cheapest rig that will run BF3 and Metro 2033 at maxed settings (by maxed I mean no setting spared, everything fully turned up), at 1680 x 1050, at a constant 30+ fps?

Would a 3570K (overclocked as far as possible on an H100i), 16GB of RAM and a 670 (overclocked as far as possible) do it?

Thanks

Daanyal

yes this will work, my rig will do it and my cpu is weakest link so with an ivy and at a lower resolution that i run you can definatley do it.

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[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="Daanyal"]

So he'll have a constant 60 fps at 1050? Sweet. He's looking to upgrade to a Dell IPS, but his current monitor is a 1680 x 1050 Acer.

Elann2008
Not with metro, he'll even dip below 30 at some parts

With a 670, he should be fine. It might dip into the 50's here and there. Or just play DX9, and run it smooth with very little difference in graphics. :) Metro 2033 benchmark

That's not maxed out benchmarks, that's only high settings Some parts he'll be going into the low twenties or even high teens
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Go for a 7950 over the 670 if you wanna play Metro. Though at that resolution you shouldn't have many problems with either.

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#13 Daanyal
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Go for a 7950 over the 670 if you wanna play Metro. Though at that resolution you shouldn't have many problems with either.

Postmortem123

It's more BF3, but I posted Metro to see whether it could handle that too.

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#14 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="GamingVengeance"] Not with metro, he'll even dip below 30 at some parts

With a 670, he should be fine. It might dip into the 50's here and there. Or just play DX9, and run it smooth with very little difference in graphics. :) Metro 2033 benchmark

That's not maxed out benchmarks, that's only high settings Some parts he'll be going into the low twenties or even high teens

If you're going into the 30, 20, teens, with a single GTX 670, let alone sli, then that's user error. It's common knowledge, Metro 2033 is very picky about which phys software version it uses. I'm on my GTX 580, and I dip down to the 40s, at the lowest on DX11, AA, very high. This is user error.
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Metro takes a dump on my 670 at 1080p. BF3 otoh is incredibly smooth at ultra with HBAO and 4x msaa.
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] With a 670, he should be fine. It might dip into the 50's here and there. Or just play DX9, and run it smooth with very little difference in graphics. :) Metro 2033 benchmark

That's not maxed out benchmarks, that's only high settings Some parts he'll be going into the low twenties or even high teens

If you're going into the 30, 20, teens, with a single GTX 670, let alone sli, then that's user error. It's common knowledge, Metro 2033 is very picky about which phys software version it uses. I'm on my GTX 580, and I dip down to the 40s, at the lowest on DX11, AA, very high. This is user error.

not with sli, With a single gtx 670 @ 1080p maxed with with 4x msaa, you will dip into the low twenties during those scenes with intense lighting , most of the time you'll have around 40 fps There's no way a 580 can play it maxed out with 4x msaa and stay above 40 the entire game
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With Metro just turn off DOF and your set
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#18 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="GamingVengeance"] That's not maxed out benchmarks, that's only high settings Some parts he'll be going into the low twenties or even high teens

If you're going into the 30, 20, teens, with a single GTX 670, let alone sli, then that's user error. It's common knowledge, Metro 2033 is very picky about which phys software version it uses. I'm on my GTX 580, and I dip down to the 40s, at the lowest on DX11, AA, very high. This is user error.

not with sli, With a single gtx 670 @ 1080p maxed with with 4x msaa, you will dip into the low twenties during those scenes with intense lighting , most of the time you'll have around 40 fps There's no way a 580 can play it maxed out with 4x msaa and stay above 40 the entire game

Let me ask you a simple question. Which version of physx software are you using? Just answer me that.
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] If you're going into the 30, 20, teens, with a single GTX 670, let alone sli, then that's user error. It's common knowledge, Metro 2033 is very picky about which phys software version it uses. I'm on my GTX 580, and I dip down to the 40s, at the lowest on DX11, AA, very high. This is user error.

not with sli, With a single gtx 670 @ 1080p maxed with with 4x msaa, you will dip into the low twenties during those scenes with intense lighting , most of the time you'll have around 40 fps There's no way a 580 can play it maxed out with 4x msaa and stay above 40 the entire game

Let me ask you a simple question. Which version of physx software are you using? Just answer me that.

I'll check when I get home,which version are you using? I assume I'm probably running the newest version Do you have advanced dof turned on aswell?
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I think in Metro 2033 the amd's are significantly stronger. In bf3 it's a tie.
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Unless a recent driver has brought a massive improvement to BF3 performance, BF3 runs significantly better on nvidia.
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

3570k, 8GB+ ram, and a 670... you better be gaming at a higher resolution than 1680x1050. And you would want 60fps with those specs. But yes, if you're looking to max out games and run them butter smooth. That would be a nice start.

Daanyal

So he'll have a constant 60 fps at 1050? Sweet. He's looking to upgrade to a Dell IPS, but his current monitor is a 1680 x 1050 Acer.

lol metro 2033 with an nvidia card?? Not gonna happen. Your best option is a 7970 and overclock it as well.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_7970_review_matrix_platinum_radeon,16.html

index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=242

this is metro with 4x AA at 1080p

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/13.html

metro_2033_1920_1200.gif

And finally here is BF3 at 1080p. AMD wins again

bf3_1920_1200.gif

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I have a GTX 670 and on demanding parts maxed out with every single thing on including DX11,ADOF, Tess and 4xMSAA it reaches 20s, explain that!

Game just isn't optimized when it comes to intense lighting, smoke and particle effects.

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#24 mitu123
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[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] With a 670, he should be fine. It might dip into the 50's here and there. Or just play DX9, and run it smooth with very little difference in graphics. :) Metro 2033 benchmarkElann2008
That's not maxed out benchmarks, that's only high settings Some parts he'll be going into the low twenties or even high teens

If you're going into the 30, 20, teens, with a single GTX 670, let alone sli, then that's user error. It's common knowledge, Metro 2033 is very picky about which phys software version it uses. I'm on my GTX 580, and I dip down to the 40s, at the lowest on DX11, AA, very high. This is user error.

Do you have Tess and Advanced DOF on? The latter is suppose to make your performance even worse...the section where you had to protect that guy from those exploding green monsters easily made you go under 30FPS.

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#25 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

3570k, 8GB+ ram, and a 670... you better be gaming at a higher resolution than 1680x1050. And you would want 60fps with those specs. But yes, if you're looking to max out games and run them butter smooth. That would be a nice start.

blaznwiipspman1

So he'll have a constant 60 fps at 1050? Sweet. He's looking to upgrade to a Dell IPS, but his current monitor is a 1680 x 1050 Acer.

lol metro 2033 with an nvidia card?? Not gonna happen. Your best option is a 7970 and overclock it as well.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_7970_review_matrix_platinum_radeon,16.html

this is metro with 4x AA at 1080p

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/13.html

And finally here is BF3 at 1080p. AMD wins again

Good to see you back to your biased ramblings. Do not seem how 38/39 fps equates to "not gonna happen" but 44 fps is good to go.

I also love your cherry-picked graphs for BF3. Why didn't you use the one from your original source? It wouldn't have anything to do with that source showing BF3 performing better on nVidia cards, would it?...



On what I said earlier; it looks like AMD (or maybe DICE) have made quite significant improvements in BF3 performance, they're now not very far behind nVidia.

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Why didn't you use the one from your original source? It wouldn't have anything to do with that source showing BF3 performing better on nVidia cards, would it?...

C_Rule

That review is on older drivers I think, before the huge BF3 boost for AMD.

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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

Why didn't you use the one from your original source? It wouldn't have anything to do with that source showing BF3 performing better on nVidia cards, would it?...

Postmortem123

That review is on older drivers I think, before the huge BF3 boost for AMD.

True. The current nVidia Beta drivers have a decent performance boost for BF3, though.
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[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

So he'll have a constant 60 fps at 1050? Sweet. He's looking to upgrade to a Dell IPS, but his current monitor is a 1680 x 1050 Acer.

C_Rule

lol metro 2033 with an nvidia card?? Not gonna happen. Your best option is a 7970 and overclock it as well.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_7970_review_matrix_platinum_radeon,16.html

this is metro with 4x AA at 1080p

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/13.html

And finally here is BF3 at 1080p. AMD wins again

Good to see you back to your biased ramblings. Do not seem how 38/39 fps equates to "not gonna happen" but 44 fps is good to go.

I also love your cherry-picked graphs for BF3. Why didn't you use the one from your original source? It wouldn't have anything to do with that source showing BF3 performing better on nVidia cards, would it?...



On what I said earlier; it looks like AMD (or maybe DICE) have made quite significant improvements in BF3 performance, they're now not very far behind nVidia.

I said his BEST option is a 7970 for metro 2033 and after that to over clock it as well. Nothing biased about that. I didn't use the older source for bf3 since it is irrelevant as it was using older drivers. Finally amd are not behind nvidia in bf3. Its nvidia that is behind amd as you can clearly see from my graphs. Either that or you can't read numbers properly.

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Yeah, if you play metro your better off going AMD because even my GTX 690 OC'ed has a hard time. Game hates Nvidia.

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Yeah, if you play metro your better off going AMD because even my GTX 690 OC'ed has a hard time. Game hates Nvidia.

Truth_Hurts_U

lol, GTX 690 gets better fps then ghz 7970

51 >36

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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

Yeah, if you play metro your better off going AMD because even my GTX 690 OC'ed has a hard time. Game hates Nvidia.

04dcarraher

lol, GTX 690 gets better fps then ghz 7970

51 >36

Of course it does, it costs more than twice as much.

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#32 C_Rule
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Finally amd are not behind nvidia in bf3. Its nvidia that is behind amd as you can clearly see from my graphs. Either that or you can't read numbers properly.

blaznwiipspman1
As already stated; the latest nVidia beta drivers bring a decent boost in BF3 performance.