which graphics card is better? + doubts on graphics card related terms

a)my choices are:

1)point of view GeForce 8400 GS
2)Palit GeForce 8400 GS
3)XFX GeForce 8400 GS

b)pls. explain the following terms and their significance:

1)GPU
2)PCIE
3)MEMORY
4)BUS WIDTH
5)STREAM PROCESSORS
6)CORE SPEED
7)MEMORY SPEED

is core or memory speed better?

c) or, instead of a)1,2 or 3; can someone please tell me if there is a better AMD card for the same price?

Thanks!

8800 GTX would be better for gaming.

ok guys, thx alot, esp. to u bumzur, but i just CANT afford anything better than my list (i go to school, btw). so cn u pls choose the best from the list? thx!CD_freakazoid

whats ur budget for a card

maybe a 4670

get thishttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102820. it's 10$ more than your budget, but oh man does it beat the 8400gs by alot.

2) It's a port that recent GPUs use. It's speed is 16x, and the older GPUs use AGP(8x) and PCI (2x?)Bumzur

Actually AGP was 2x, 4x and 8x (times the speed of PCI) making original PCI 1x. PCI-E 2.0 would be considered 32x, although it's just called PCI-E 16x 2.0 instead. And to the OP seriously don't bother getting an 8400GS, as others have mentioned it is a total waste of money. I doubt any NFS after Most Wanted will run acceptably on it. For just a little more cost you can get the 4670 which is an order of magnitude more powerful. Just save up a little while longer and get that.

8800 GTX would be better for gaming.

topsemag55

Bit of an odd recommendation there. Not only is it not available anymore, there are more powerful cards out now that consume less power also. Plus if he's looking to get an 8400GS I don't think there's much chance of his PSU being able to run an 8800GTX.

by 4670, u mean radeon?? sry, cant afford, max i can is the 8400. my older 7600 ran carbon smoothly!!!

by 4670, u mean radeon?? sry, cant afford, max i can is the 8400. my older 7600 ran carbon smoothly!!!

CD_freakazoid

Yea as I said, save up a bit longer! I hate to break it to you but a 7600GT is about 3x faster than a 8400GS:lol:

i know its nice to have a new graphics card but why dont u look at ebay might get a good deal on a card

Hi I went over to Tom's Hardware site and looked at the benchmarks between

an ATI 4670 and Nvidia 8400GS. THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE!!!!!!!

For a bit more money you would be crazy not to get a 4670.

ok, soo im sooooooooooo totally confused.

1)how do u know which card is better?
2)how can utell that the 7600GT has 3x speed than 8400GS? what do u compare?
3)can some1 pls. give me a site where i can compare hardware products of all brands (Eg: Printers, graphics cards, pendrives, external storage, etc.) and their prices???
4)ok, so my options have increased:

a)XFX Geforce 8400 GS
b)Palit Geforce 8400 GS
c)zotac GeForce 9500 GT
d)Palit Geforce 9500 GT
e)repair my old 7600GT

Thanks!!!

ok, soo im sooooooooooo totally confused.

1)how do u know which card is better?
2)how can utell that the 7600GT has 3x speed than 8400GS? what do u compare?
3)can some1 pls. give me a site where i can compare hardware products of all brands (Eg: Printers, graphics cards, pendrives, external storage, etc.) and their prices???
4)ok, so my options have increased:

a)XFX Geforce 8400 GS
b)Palit Geforce 8400 GS
c)zotac GeForce 9500 GT
d)Palit Geforce 9500 GT
e)repair my old 7600GT

Thanks!!!

CD_freakazoid

you don't need benchmars to know wich one is better really. Remember that the first number is the series they belong to. So a 9800 is series 9. The 3 number after say if it is cheap, mainstream or gaming:

100 to 400= cheap (like the 8400 gs)

500-600= mainstream (9600 gt)

700-900= gaming (9800 gtx)

then nvidia uses GS, GT, GTS, GTX and so on GX2 to identify how fast the cards go. A 9800GTX is faster than a 9800 GT

Between the one you mentioned i would go for any of the 2 9500 GT

The Geforce 7600GT was a mid-range card when it came out, the 8400GS was entry level, the second number is just as important as the first.

And here's a quick comparison for you:
8400GS: 450MHz core speed 8 Shaders, 4 Texture Mapping Units, 2 Render Outputs. Fillrate: 1800MP/s, 3600MT/s. 6.4GB/s Memory bandwidth on a 64 bit bus.
7600GT: 560MHz core speed 12 Shaders, 12 Texture Mapping Unit's, 8 Render Output's. Fillrate: 4480MP/s, 6780 MT/s. 22.4GB/s memory bandwidth on a 128 bit bus.

As you can see from the raw spec's, the 7600GT is going to totally destroy the 8400GS. Ok so the 7600 isn't unified so is less efficient but you get the idea. Check for yourself here. If you really can't afford a 4670, then AT LEAST get a 8600GT/9500GT as a bare minimum, else you'll be buying a card that is worse than your old one.

The 8400gs are not gaming cards ( in fact they perform the same as your old 7600gt)

Save $20-30 and get an ATI 4670 ( i think is about $65-70) which will allow you to play games at high settings

The nvidia 9500gt will allow you to do gaming at mostly medium settings but imo is not worth it since is only $10 cheaper than the 4670 and performancce wise there is a big margin between the 2 ( the 4670 is almost comparable with the 9600gt)

The 8400gs are not gaming cards ( in fact they perform the same as your old 7600gt)

Save $20-30 and get an ATI 4670 ( i think is about $65-70) which will allow you to play games at high settings

The nvidia 9500gt will allow you to do gaming at mostly medium settings but imo is not worth it since is only $10 cheaper than the 4670 and performancce wise there is a big margin between the 2 ( the 4670 is almost comparable with the 9600gt)

adamosmaki

No seriously, they don't. It's not even physically possible for them to perform the same, just look at the difference in stats.

hey i kinda have the same problem as the TC as am looking to buy a new graphics card and i am completely lost, all i want to play is WOW because at the moment i am only get 15fps max, i know the card is pci express DDR2 SDRAM, can anyone recommend a decent budget card to help me!!!!

and to the dude who recommend the Radeon HD 4670 512MB as it is DDR3 will it make a difference if mine is DDR2? or is there is the a DDR2 model, As the card does look good and is in my price range

ok guys, thx alot, esp. to u bumzur, but i just CANT afford anything better than my list (i go to school, btw). so cn u pls choose the best from the list? thx!CD_freakazoid

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

The 8400gs are not gaming cards ( in fact they perform the same as your old 7600gt)

Save $20-30 and get an ATI 4670 ( i think is about $65-70) which will allow you to play games at high settings

The nvidia 9500gt will allow you to do gaming at mostly medium settings but imo is not worth it since is only $10 cheaper than the 4670 and performancce wise there is a big margin between the 2 ( the 4670 is almost comparable with the 9600gt)

superchronik

No seriously, they don't. It's not even physically possible for them to perform the same, just look at the difference in stats.

Definitly get the 4670. If you can't afford it, get a 4550 or 4570, they are about half as powerful but wipe the floor with the 8400GS, 8400GT, 8500GT and 9400GT graphics cards. The 4550 IS comparable and more powerful than the 7600GT especially in today's games that prefer unified shader GPUs.

hey i kinda have the same problem as the TC as am looking to buy a new graphics card and i am completely lost, all i want to play is WOW because at the moment i am only get 15fps max, i know the card is pci express DDR2 SDRAM, can anyone recommend a decent budget card to help me!!!!

and to the dude who recommend the Radeon HD 4670 512MB as it is DDR3 will it make a difference if mine is DDR2? or is there is the a DDR2 model, As the card does look good and is in my price range

p0g0theclown

You'll often find that manufacturer's will put a larger amount of DDR2 memory on a card, don't be fooled. These are slower than their GDDR3 counterparts, even if the GDDR3 version has less memory it will be faster. Also the GDDR3 version will work just fine, the memory is onboard the graphics card itself so is independant of whether your memory in your PC is DDR2 or DDR3. So yea, go get yourself one you won't be disappointed :)

[QUOTE="CD_freakazoid"]ok guys, thx alot, esp. to u bumzur, but i just CANT afford anything better than my list (i go to school, btw). so cn u pls choose the best from the list? thx!johnny27

[QUOTE="johnny27"][QUOTE="CD_freakazoid"]ok guys, thx alot, esp. to u bumzur, but i just CANT afford anything better than my list (i go to school, btw). so cn u pls choose the best from the list? thx!CD_freakazoid

dont get the 8400gs it sux u wotn beable to do much on it.They actually use this gpu in soem laptops so u wont be getting much

[QUOTE="johnny27"][QUOTE="CD_freakazoid"]ok guys, thx alot, esp. to u bumzur, but i just CANT afford anything better than my list (i go to school, btw). so cn u pls choose the best from the list? thx!CD_freakazoid

You know.. 8400GS Is like said the other it about 3 Time less power then 7600GT ? so he would like to downscale is graphic to 800x600 !? it so non-sense you want to see how bad is 8400GS ? compare to 7600GS/GT

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1595&Itemid=40&limit=1&limitstart=3
First we have 8400GS at 14fps for Company of heroes at 1024x780 : Vs 50fps for 8600GT which is Exact Power of 7600GT