Which GTX 570 should i get for under 360$

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#1 silversix_
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I'm looking to build my first gaming rig around a Core i5 2500k + gtx 570 and was wondering which version is worth buying for 360$ (CAN) and under? Or should i get/wait another graphics card? I'll be playing on 1080p, a 23'' monitor and looking to have high AA (x4aa or more). I'm half nab when it comes to PC so any suggestions are appreciated.

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#2 MonsieurX
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1-Get a Powercolor 6950 2gb 2-Unlock it to 6970 3- ??? 4-Profit!!!
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#3 ionusX
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1-Get a Powercolor 6950 2gb 2-Unlock it to 6970 3- ??? 4-Profit!!!MonsieurX

+1

unlocked 6950 = betteer than gtx 570 at a cheaper price tag

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#4 silversix_
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But isn't the gtx570 better at tessallation, for OC and has a better fps in most DX11 games?
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#5 ionusX
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But isn't the gtx570 better at tessallation, for OC and has a better fps in most DX11 games?silversix_

yes but it costs more at refrence..a good 50 bucks or more

it also doesnt beat it at tesselation there about even in that regard

in dx11 fps of a 6970 exceed a 570 almsot all the time there are a few exceptions but their not comon enough to matter.

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#6 silversix_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]But isn't the gtx570 better at tessallation, for OC and has a better fps in most DX11 games?ionusX

yes but it costs more at refrence..a good 50 bucks or more

it also doesnt beat it at tesselation there about even in that regard

in dx11 fps of a 6970 exceed a 570 almsot all the time there are a few exceptions but their not comon enough to matter.

Which version of the HD 6950 is the "best bang for your buck"? And do you have the site that shows step by step how to unlock it to a 6970? I've never overclocked a PC so that may be too hard?

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#7 Hekynn
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Get a MSI Hawk 460 1gb version you don't need that much video power for a 23 inch 1080P monitor and if you feel the need for more power grab a 2nd. Just bought my first MSI hawk 460 this morning just waiting for it to be shipped and installed in my rig.
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#8 silversix_
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Get a MSI Hawk 460 1gb version you don't need that much video power for a 23 inch 1080P monitor and if you feel the need for more power grab a 2nd. Just bought my first MSI hawk 460 this morning just waiting for it to be shipped and installed in my rig.Hekynn
Thats what i wanted to get at first but i don't think i'll be able to max The Witcher 2, GW2, RAGE or BF3 with one Hawk. I was looking to get the gtx 570 and going SLi when needed.

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#9 MonsieurX
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http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57619&vpn=AX6950%202GBD5-M2DH&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1281 http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/159
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#10 silversix_
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http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57619&vpn=AX6950%202GBD5-M2DH&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1281 http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/159MonsieurX
Thanks but this looks complicated :(

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#11 MonsieurX
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Well,it's pretty simple Download WinFlash and the 6970 bios,save your current bios if something goes wrong,apply the 6970 bios.
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#12 mitch2411
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You wont be able to unlock it, but at 219.99 its a pretty nice card. Also the 1GB will be enough for any game at 1080P. Just my opinion though.

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58456&vpn=HD695XZNDC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1281

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#14 silversix_
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Do you guys have a link to a video (needs to be well explained so that even a nab could understand) showing how to unlock to 6970? It may be easier if i can copy everything he/she is doing from a video? And if i get the 6950 on newegg.ca which version should i get?
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If you don't want to bother with the unlocking process yourself, you could always get this version of the 6950. It has a switch on it that makes it a 6970 for you automatically. The warranty covers this type of unlock, unlike the other ones in the market should something go wrong, and the price difference is not that much (approx. 11 bucks between the reference one from NCIX and this one, including shipping and taxes).

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#16 silversix_
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If you don't want to bother with the unlocking process yourself, you could always get this version of the 6950. It has a switch on it that makes it a 6970 for you automatically. The warranty covers this type of unlock, unlike the other ones in the market should something go wrong, and the price difference is not that much (approx. 11 bucks between the reference one from NCIX and this one, including shipping and taxes).

ravenguard90

Nice! So i can get the exact same performance as a 6970 but for 289$? Can the card be OC'd any further or its it maximum?

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#17 ravenguard90
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[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

If you don't want to bother with the unlocking process yourself, you could always get this version of the 6950. It has a switch on it that makes it a 6970 for you automatically. The warranty covers this type of unlock, unlike the other ones in the market should something go wrong, and the price difference is not that much (approx. 11 bucks between the reference one from NCIX and this one, including shipping and taxes).

silversix_

Nice! So i can get the exact same performance as a 6970 but for 289$? Can the card be OC'd any further or its it maximum?

It can still be OC'ed. I believe that the only difference between Powercolor's version of the unlock and the typical BIOS flash unlock is that you need to manually set the 6970 clocks in something like MSI Afterburner.

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#18 Bikouchu35
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Unless you give a rats... about physx than go ahead and get the 6950. The lower price puts in you in an easier position to buy a second one (price wise), and even if you dont the price:performance is great while at the same time being a ~top of the line card.

Although just my 2cents, but the 570 is rather quiet for an upper-tier card :) despite oc'ing it on reference cooler.

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Unless you give a rats... about physx than go ahead and get the 6950. The lower price puts in you in an easier position to buy a second one (price wise), and even if you dont the price:performance is great while at the same time being a ~top of the line card.

Although just my 2cents, but the 570 is rather quiet for an upper-tier card :) despite oc'ing it on reference cooler.

Bikouchu35

Actually the sound levels coming out of my OC'd GTX 560's reference cooler have me seriously considering upgrading to a 570. My 560 is roughly equal to a 480/570 in most games with this overclock, but I'd love to be able to OC a 570 so I can have even more speed AND have a quieter GPU. I love the performance of my card, but it runs hot and loud. Wasn't expecting this from a 560.

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Actually the sound levels coming out of my OC'd GTX 560's reference cooler have me seriously considering upgrading to a 570. My 560 is roughly equal to a 480/570 in most games with this overclock, but I'd love to be able to OC a 570 so I can have even more speed AND have a quieter GPU. I love the performance of my card, but it runs hot and loud. Wasn't expecting this from a 560.

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How was the sound jump from 460 to 560? I remember the gtx 460 being dead silent @ max oc range, but then I had the nightmare of the original fermi 470 which was a heat monster with a loud fan, painful to the ears but that only lasted for a month. The 570 however is audible, but it has more of a smoother hum so is much easier on the ears. However the loudness is subjective, so Im not sure if it would be quiet to you. I dont put headphones on usually to put it in perspective.

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#21 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Actually the sound levels coming out of my OC'd GTX 560's reference cooler have me seriously considering upgrading to a 570. My 560 is roughly equal to a 480/570 in most games with this overclock, but I'd love to be able to OC a 570 so I can have even more speed AND have a quieter GPU. I love the performance of my card, but it runs hot and loud. Wasn't expecting this from a 560.

Bikouchu35

How was the sound jump from 460 to 560? I remember the gtx 460 being dead silent @ max oc range, but then I had the nightmare of the original fermi 470 which was a heat monster with a loud fan, painful to the ears but that only lasted for a month. The 570 however is audible, but it has more of a smoother hum so is much easier on the ears. However the loudness is subjective, so Im not sure if it would be quiet to you. I dont put headphones on usually to put it in perspective.

The overvolted, OC'd GTX 460 that I had was nearly silent. I never had to mess with the fan profiles, just left it on default. I'm wondering if the cooler on my 560 isn't making solid contact with the GPU.

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I got this one: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3685#ov

most impressed.

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I got this one: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3685#ov

most impressed.

darksusperia
i agree with this one. Whatever video card you choose..if your not going SLI or Crossfire, Look for one with the biggest fans because those are the coolest and most quiet
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#24 silversix_
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I will be going Sli/crossfire but in a year or so. Is the OC'd gtx 570 much more powerful than a HD 6950 unlocked?
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I think the 6970 has a 5% advantage or something like that over the stock 570. I cant find anything comparing the OC'd 570 to the 6970. if your into OCing gigabyte states the the factory OC'd 570 @ 780Mhz still has a 10 - 30% headroom for further OCing.

I will say that it doesnt break 60C while playing crysis maxed, with the fans only @ 50%.. so it does run very cool.

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#26 wildychua
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NCIX has a sale right now on an EVGA GTX 570 for $300 CAN ($270 after MRI). I've never dealt with their customer service before, but the limited lifetime warranty sounds like a good deal.

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58573&vpn=012-P3-1571-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1295

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I will be going Sli/crossfire but in a year or so. Is the OC'd gtx 570 much more powerful than a HD 6950 unlocked?silversix_

By the looks of this review, yes.

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#28 silversix_
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That asus is 399.99 on newegg. Which version should i get for under 360?

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this one $359.99 LOL

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#30 ravenguard90
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That asus is 399.99 on newegg. Which version should i get for under 360?

silversix_

Get this one. MSI has voltage tweaking unlocked as well, so you should be able to push around the same clocks. That, along with all the extra goodies, makes it the best value out of all the 570's available, imo.

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#31 silversix_
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this one $359.99 LOL

darksusperia

Any particular reasons why you recomend the Gigabyte version? Do they all have same overclocking abilities or some are better to OC than others?

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#32 silversix_
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

That asus is 399.99 on newegg. Which version should i get for under 360?

ravenguard90

Get this one. MSI has voltage tweaking unlocked as well, so you should be able to push around the same clocks. That, along with all the extra goodies, makes it the best value out of all the 570's available, imo.

Looks good, thanks. I guess i can buy by PayPal on that site? I've never bought anything on it.

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#33 ravenguard90
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Yeah, you can use Paypal. Credit card and EMT are also other ways you can buy stuff from there.

As for your inquiry about the Gigabyte card, I would suggest not getting it if you're planning to use SLI/Crossfire. At least for me, the extra heat that comes off one of my cards gets sucked in right to the other, causing its temps to skyrocket. If you ask me, I'd stick to reference if you're going to get a multi-GPU setup, especially when you don't have good airflow in your case.

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[QUOTE="darksusperia"]

this one $359.99 LOL

silversix_

Any particular reasons why you recomend the Gigabyte version? Do they all have same overclocking abilities or some are better to OC than others?



Aside from owning it myself. I like the cooler provided. runs nice n cool and isnt loud.

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#35 silversix_
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Do they both OC well?
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[QUOTE="darksusperia"]

I got this one: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3685#ov

most impressed.

fishing666

i agree with this one. Whatever video card you choose..if your not going SLI or Crossfire, Look for one with the biggest fans because those are the coolest and most quiet

Yeah, Gigabyte GPUs with dual or triple fans are very quiet. You'd think they'd be loud because of the multiple fans but they run very quiet even at above 50% fan speed. It also runs very cool which is even more impressive.

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#37 Elann2008
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Do they both OC well?silversix_

Gigabyte GPUs overclock VERY well. And they run super cool and quiet. You really can't beat that. I was planning to get one of those if I ever end up selling my GTX 460's.

What I really want is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125364&cm_re=gigabyte_gtx_580-_-14-125-364-_-Product

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#38 darksusperia
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Do they both OC well?Elann2008

Gigabyte GPUs overclock VERY well. And they run super cool and quiet. You really can't beat that. I was planning to get one of those if I ever end up selling my GTX 460's.

What I really want is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125364&cm_re=gigabyte_gtx_580-_-14-125-364-_-Product

as much as I wanted one of those I couldnt spend the $600AU odd to buy it when the 570 was only $430AU
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#39 MonsieurX
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270$ with a 30$ MIR
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#40 mitu123
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300 bucks for a 570?*Needs to save up for 2 to SLI*

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But do any of these cards have a lifetime warranty? Ah ...

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#42 silversix_
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I'll probably get the MSI version since its great for OC. Its 350$ with free shipping.
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#43 ATLReppa770
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I'll probably get the MSI version since its great for OC. Its 350$ with free shipping.silversix_
And, if it dies in ~3 years ? The 570 HD SC is $350 w/ free shipping too.
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]I'll probably get the MSI version since its great for OC. Its 350$ with free shipping.ATLReppa770
And, if it dies in ~3 years ? The 570 HD SC is $350 w/ free shipping too.

Where can you find an EVGA AR model for 350 with shipping? Because the one MonsieurX posted is a KR model, which is also a 3-year warranty model.

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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"][QUOTE="silversix_"]I'll probably get the MSI version since its great for OC. Its 350$ with free shipping.ravenguard90

And, if it dies in ~3 years ? The 570 HD SC is $350 w/ free shipping too.

Where can you find an EVGA AR model for 350 with shipping? Because the one MonsieurX posted is a KR model, which is also a 3-year warranty model.

012-P3-1573-AR | http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=012-P3-1573-AR&family=GeForce%20500%20Series%20Family&sw=
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#46 ravenguard90
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[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"] And, if it dies in ~3 years ? The 570 HD SC is $350 w/ free shipping too.ATLReppa770

Where can you find an EVGA AR model for 350 with shipping? Because the one MonsieurX posted is a KR model, which is also a 3-year warranty model.

012-P3-1573-AR | http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=012-P3-1573-AR&family=GeForce%20500%20Series%20Family&sw=

That's American. silversix_ is Canadian. Pricing will be different due to exchange rates, shipping rates, and taxes. Additionally, it's listed as out of stock.

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#47 ATLReppa770
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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"][QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

Where can you find an EVGA AR model for 350 with shipping? Because the one MonsieurX posted is a KR model, which is also a 3-year warranty model.

ravenguard90

012-P3-1573-AR |

That's American. silversix_ is Canadian. Pricing will be different due to exchange rates, shipping rates, and taxes. Additionally, it's listed as out of stock.

Oh. :| Well, even the model MonsieurX listed has a limited lifetime warranty. Where did you see it say it was a KR model ?

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The Reference card

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Oh. :| Well, even the model MonsieurX listed has a limited lifetime warranty. Where did you see it say it was a KR model ?

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#50 ATLReppa770
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[QUOTE="ATLReppa770"]

Oh. :| Well, even the model MonsieurX listed has a limited lifetime warranty. Where did you see it say it was a KR model ?

ravenguard90

Thanks. I really didn't see that the first time, and I was looking for it. Ah, oh well. It's sold out now anyway.