Which takes more skill: Company of Heroes or Starcraft?

Lately I've been playing Company of Heroes, and I never really thought it was comparable to Starcraft in terms of skill cap. However, now I am starting to see that at a higher level of play, Company of Heroes does require a decent amount of skill. I still think that Starcraft requires more skill, but I'm not sure. I just thought this would be an interesting question to ask (inb4 flame wars:? )

Starcraft requires more micromanagement. Most modern RTSs eliminate that level of micromanagement to allow the user to focus on the larger scale. I'd say anyone who plays starcraft probably thinks it requires more skill, but I personally enjoy the strategy involved in games like CoH, WiC, and Supreme Commander over the intense memorization and micromanagement of Starcraft.

The skill you need with starcraft is speed, and you know how asians love speed.

Starcraft does NOT require more skill than CoH lol. Combat in Starcraft boils down to extreme micromanagement, but that does not equate to a higher degree of skill. The gameplay is very simplistic.

Starcraft does NOT require more skill than CoH lol. Combat in Starcraft boils down to extreme micromanagement, but that does not equate to a higher degree of skill. The gameplay is very simplistic.

PTMags

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Starcraft does NOT require more skill than CoH lol. Combat in Starcraft boils down to extreme micromanagement, but that does not equate to a higher degree of skill. The gameplay is very simplistic.

Bumzur

I didn't say that skill isn't a factor in Starcraft. I'm just saying that Company of Heroes has a lot more depth to it and a lot more strategy. Those Koreans love their micromanagement.

Starcraft has equally balanced teams.

CoH has teams with slightly different units for each team, and also a more complex rock>scissors>paper mechanic to it.

CoH also makes much more use of the terrain, and super powers. Basically even if you decided to infantry rush a single Mg squad could cause 60 riflemen to sit there pinned ubder fire. In Starcraft they'd just charge at each other, so you have to stop and think about what bthey might have and make sure you have something to counter that etc.

You still do that in Starcraft (air>ground, ground>air, ground>ground tactics) but really that's it. In CoH you have super powers>all, infantry>infantry, anti-vehicle, vehicle, vehicle>infantry, sniper>infantry, sniper>sniper, sniper>Mg, Mg>infantry, vehicle>mg (unless you use armour peircing), infantry (with grenades/sticky bombs)>vehicles etc

Then you have artillery and some defensive structures, mines, etc

(Vehicles includes tanks and light vehicles)

That's my take on it at least, I never played Starcraft as in-depth as others.

Relic games have always been more about tactical strategy than base building; just look at Homeworld. Micromanaging the battlefield in CoH is much more involved than in Starcraft. Yes, starcraft has more structures, more units, more research to manage, but a lot of that is memorizing quick keys for spells and such, and I'm not sure I'd call that skill per se. The only reason I think we see Starcraft as more deep is because people have been playing it for a long time, and have had time to develop and refine better and better strategies. If CoH had 10+ years of unrivaled popularity under its belt, I don't think we would be having this discussion.

"You still do that in Starcraft (air>ground, ground>air, ground>ground tactics)" You didn't factor in the 3 completely diverse races, pushing this to the power of 3 and eliminating City of Heroes depth wise.Bumzur

[QUOTE="Bumzur"]"You still do that in Starcraft (air>ground, ground>air, ground>ground tactics)" You didn't factor in the 3 completely diverse races, pushing this to the power of 3 and eliminating City of Heroes depth wise.DigitalExile

Skill is a mater of opinion: While some people may say "wow pvp require no skill" how come not everyone is trying to play for the tournament? Same could be say about allmost any game. Call it fast reaction, micromanagement, knowledge or whatever you want. But some people are good (skill) at games and some people are bad.

And saying that the starcraft races are copies of eachother is like saying that "water = stone = fire"

CoH is much more complex and less twitch based, and it requires more strategy. However starcraft does require an FPS' level of hand eye coordination and twitch skill.

i belive that starcraft requires more skill

I'd say they are even, when I play CoH, just following some of the tips given to me by players and on the loading screen enabled me to win a lot more. Playing starcraft just seemed a whole lot harder just because when I think of it I also think of asian pro skills but it really isn't that bad