Who wants diablo 3

I want this game so bad.

You should have added a "maybe" choice. That would be me.

I do want it but I am not that terribly excited about it. Only PC game I am anticipating anymore is Witcher 2.testfactor888

Waiting to see more about it until I decide. As of now I want Guild Wars 2 a lot more.

Lot of gaming for me to come before biablo 3s release..Ill be playing that for years once released so im ok let them get it done right..

Of course I do but it is taking way too long to get released and I am beginning to lose interest because of that.

I can live without it, I have Call of Pripyat to keep me company.

as of right now? no not really, or rather, depends on what the game shapes up, if it is like D2 then No.

Most people will likely welcome it, but I feel it will feel old and stale as soon as I got it in my hands.

Then again it IS blizzard we are talking about, they might take the old formula, keep the core of it, and then make it utterly awesome (see SC2 for reference)

Game will probably be 60 bucks when out and no way paying that much for a game. Not in a hurry i'll get it someday for 20 on steam in special.

Game will probably be 60 bucks when out and no way paying that much for a game. Not in a hurry i'll get it someday for 20 on steam in special.

Sleepyz

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Game will probably be 60 bucks when out and no way paying that much for a game. Not in a hurry i'll get it someday for 20 on steam in special.

Captain__Tripps

And the bucket is still collecting milk. :(

I wouldn't be surprised if Diablo 2 is still at the same price even a year or two after D3's release.

I may skip it, since i've already played diablo 2 to death and I doubt blizzard will stray much from the formula.

Yes, need release date!

I desperately want it.

If this trailer is anything to go by then it's one of the fugliest new games I've ever seen and I really don't care much for graphics but that's a stretch too far. They've basically copypasted the WoW engine with the uber low-res textures to boot. Definately do not want. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uT2mrL8F0wthekodaman

You realize that your basing this on a pre-alpha build from a year ago, right?

Nonetheless the game's presentation has not advanced much at all, the visuals are well below sub-par for a new game that has been repeatedly delayed. They also seem to have copied over monster, item and other designs straight from WoW and Wacraft III. Blizzard need to make Diablo 3's gameplay amazing if they're to make up for that plus the constant delays.thekodaman

To address your last sentence first.. they are not. Just look at StarCraft 2 which is really just StarCraft 1 with a few new units and a glossier coat.

Of course they are going to copy over from WoW, none of the original Diablo 2 design team is still with Blizzard. But none of that matters... because,

For every critic that is looking for a whole new direction for the game with groundbreaking visuals and gameplay, Blizzard knows that there are a million other players that will buy this game up just the way they are going to release it.... As Diablo 2.5.

Not to say your wrong in your opinions at all. I'm just saying as far as Blizzard's bottom line is concerned, it won't matter.

I expect to see the same course SC2 followed.

Noone cared until the latest stages of development, trashtalking the game in every way available and jumping on hate bandwagons seemed almost a trend, and when released the world could only shut up and whimper with petty complaints that never had true meaning.

I expect to see the same course SC2 followed.

Noone cared until the latest stages of development, trashtalking the game in every way available and jumping on hate bandwagons seemed almost a trend, and when released the world could only shut up and whimper with petty complaints that never had true meaning.

N30F3N1X

I didn't hear any hate towards it until after it was released, but a good few are legitimate complaints.

Can't say I do. I mean maybe if someone I know has it and then gives me some 1337 gear (like what happened in d2) I'll get addicted to it for years, but now my feelings on it are pretty meh.

I didn't hear any hate towards it until after it was released, but a good few are legitimate complaints.

Sheppard212

How long have you been on the forums?

"No LAN no buy"

"OMG 60$ LIKE MW2 BLIZZ IS GREEDY" (forgetting all Blizzard games retailed at 60$)

"OMG ALWAYS CONNECTED HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM UBISOFT DRM" (forgetting that they said times and times again that you could play offline, and that SC2 is an extremely MP-centric game, while AC2 was a SP only one)

"OMG SC1.5"

I expect to see the same course SC2 followed.

Noone cared until the latest stages of development, trashtalking the game in every way available and jumping on hate bandwagons seemed almost a trend, and when released the world could only shut up and whimper with petty complaints that never had true meaning.

N30F3N1X

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I didn't hear any hate towards it until after it was released, but a good few are legitimate complaints.

N30F3N1X

How long have you been on the forums?

"No LAN no buy"

"OMG 60$ LIKE MW2 BLIZZ IS GREEDY" (forgetting all Blizzard games retailed at 60$)

"OMG ALWAYS CONNECTED HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM UBISOFT DRM" (forgetting that they said times and times again that you could play offline, and that SC2 is an extremely MP-centric game, while AC2 was a SP only one)

"OMG SC1.5"

A brief laspe of memory, but these forums =/= the itnernet at large. That's something you should start realizing.

Do even Diablo 2 debuted at 60 bucks? And its expansion? And even Starcraft itself? But still, Blizzard will milk the cow because it never runs out. Though I believe it's safe to say it's SC 1.25 or some odd percentile.

A brief laspe of memory, but these forums =/= the itnernet at large. That's something you should start realizing.

Sheppard212

Elaborate. The PC board of GS is neck-deep in Blizzard haters, I realized that, nevertheless it's not like the rest of the Internet was in a better shape. Even the other gaming related sites forums, heck, even WoW and SC2 forums were filled with this kind of trash.

How long have you been on the forums?

"No LAN no buy"

"OMG 60$ LIKE MW2 BLIZZ IS GREEDY" (forgetting all Blizzard games retailed at 60$)

"OMG ALWAYS CONNECTED HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM UBISOFT DRM" (forgetting that they said times and times again that you could play offline, and that SC2 is an extremely MP-centric game, while AC2 was a SP only one)

"OMG SC1.5"

N30F3N1X

I have elaborated.

There's a fine line between "haters" and "group of people with actual complaints about a game/company". You can cover your ears all you want, Neo, but selling one gmae three times is a money gouging practice. I won't get into "Well the campaign was thirty missions" because we've waited a decade and only get one third of the pie, with a bit of the crust from the Protoss's piece.

This forum has people of all stripes speaking praises or flaws about Blizzard and their products, but using the "Us or them" argument is pointless. Why do you even bother?

I have elaborated.

There's a fine line between "haters" and "group of people with actual complaints about a game/company". You can cover your ears all you want, Neo, but selling one gmae three times is a money gouging practice. I won't get into "Well the campaign was thirty missions" because we've waited a decade and only get one third of the pie, with a bit of the crust from the Protoss's piece.

This forum has people of all stripes speaking praises or flaws about Blizzard and their products, but using the "Us or them" argument is pointless. Why do you even bother?

Sheppard212

Urgh.

I'd link you to the thread Wasdie locked with a "It's all just gone to hell", but I can't find it.

Tell me with a straight face that that thread wasn't filled with who I call "haters" but just a "group of people with actual complaints about a game/company".

The number of actual complaints about SC2 could be counted on one hand. In a more than one hundred posts long thread. Go figure.

Not interested. The fanboys will just keep closign their ears and propping up strawmen.

I cant wait! I spent soooooooo many hours on Diablo2 when i was younger

Not interested. The fanboys will just keep closign their ears and propping up strawmen.

Sheppard212

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I didn't hear any hate towards it until after it was released, but a good few are legitimate complaints.

Sheppard212

How long have you been on the forums?

"No LAN no buy"

"OMG 60$ LIKE MW2 BLIZZ IS GREEDY" (forgetting all Blizzard games retailed at 60$)

"OMG ALWAYS CONNECTED HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM UBISOFT DRM" (forgetting that they said times and times again that you could play offline, and that SC2 is an extremely MP-centric game, while AC2 was a SP only one)

"OMG SC1.5"

A brief laspe of memory, but these forums =/= the itnernet at large. That's something you should start realizing.

Do even Diablo 2 debuted at 60 bucks? And its expansion? And even Starcraft itself? But still, Blizzard will milk the cow because it never runs out. Though I believe it's safe to say it's SC 1.25 or some odd percentile.

It's obvious that you have no clue about what real strawmen are, so let me lay out the errors in your post. To put it simply, you're saying that Blizzard doesn't offer the value for their $60 price tag.

So lets start with you saying Blizzard has somehow gotten greedy since Diablo 2. It simply didn't debut at 60 because Blizzard wasn't as big as they are when WC3 released - their first $60. Because once it was established that after spending multiple years on their games that end up with some of the most polish in this industry, which earned them a multi-million user base around the world, they had the ability to charge premium for their titles.

WoW, Diablo 2, Wc3, Starcraft 1 & 2 are some of the most played online games today for a reason. The original Starcraft pretty much beats the online population of almost all other RTS's out there combined that are not from Blizzardalone.

Furthermore, if they were so greedy, why doesn't blizzard charge $60 for each new WoW expansion? Each has sold 2 million + on their opening days alone. They don't even charge $50, they just charge $40.

Now lets look at their pricing options in other countries for Starcraft 2, especially Korea, since it's the most popular place for Starcraft, so Blizzard would definitely charge the most for them right? Wrong, Korean players along with Russian can even play Starcraft 2 for free, if they simply get a wow subscription. Either that, or they can buy the whole product for the same price as other countries.

When speaking about the current campaign, it clocks in around the same time as as most games today, except it can be much longer, especially with the acheivements being fun.

Ontop of that, this is another place where you picking at straws, in the end, after the 3 campaigns when each race is getting their own individual full length game representing them, you'll get way more than you did with the original. You'll just have to wait, but if you are complaining about that, then you are the one who is making yourself a victim.

And then there's the multiplayer which speaks for itself. Not only is it more fun, but each race is evolved to where in each tier, they play completelly differently than in SC 1.

I love blizzard, they are on of my favorite companies, I however don't like all of their choices, but SC 2 is not SC 1.5, it's far more. They've changed what need to be changed, the campaign, and they've evolved what didn't even need to be evolved,the mp.

I'm a huge Blizzard fan but I have no history with Diablo games. Currently I haven't seen enough to warrant me getting this game though I know it will be top notch.

In advancem I apologize for any misspellings, I'm not proofreading.

It's obvious that you have no clue about what real strawmen are, so let me lay out the errors in your post. To put it simply, you're saying that Blizzard doesn't offer the value for their $60 price tag.

So lets start with you saying Blizzard has somehow gotten greedy since Diablo 2. It simply didn't debut at 60 because Blizzard wasn't as big as they are when WC3 released - their first $60. Because once it was established that after spending multiple years on their games that end up with some of the most polish in this industry, which earned them a multi-million user base around the world, they had the ability to charge premium for their titles.

WoW, Diablo 2, Wc3, Starcraft 1 & 2 are some of the most played online games today for a reason. The original Starcraft pretty much beats the online population of almost all other RTS's out there combined that are not from Blizzardalone.

Furthermore, if they were so greedy, why doesn't blizzard charge $60 for each new WoW expansion? Each has sold 2 million + on their opening days alone. They don't even charge $50, they just charge $40.

Thanks for setting up what you're supposed to -- a strawman. The post was concerning the sixty dollar price tag on Blizzard games, which the other user said is what Blizzard charges for them. But I didn't say Blizzard was greedy, they will "milk the cow" because the prices for Diablo 2, an older game, is thirty-five dollars. I'll ignore the rest of the above filler as it's not addressing my actual post.

Now lets look at their pricing options in other countries for Starcraft 2, especially Korea, since it's the most popular place for Starcraft, so Blizzard would definitely charge the most for them right? Wrong, Korean players along with Russian can even play Starcraft 2 for free, if they simply get a wow subscription. Either that, or they can buy the whole product for the same price as other countries.

When speaking about the current campaign, it clocks in around the same time as as most games today, except it can be much longer, especially with the acheivements being fun.

Ontop of that, this is another place where you picking at straws, in the end, after the 3 campaigns when each race is getting their own individual full length game representing them, you'll get way more than you did with the original. You'll just have to wait, but if you are complaining about that, then you are the one who is making yourself a victim.

The achievements are fun little carrot-on-a-stick features, I'll give you that one. And luckily for me, my favorite faction is Terran. But when the game was over and the dust settled, I wasn't too happy wth the outcome -- that would be because I was spoiled with Mass Effect 2's excellent cinematic presentation. I was on the edge of my seat during that last mission! But that has no bearing here, we get a little less than thirty missiosn and about six or seven are Protoss (Protose, anyone?). But I won't get into this and that, but Brood War was amazing back in the day, with that little marine being left at the beginning and then Dugaule killing himself at the end, those were moments that I felt for the characters. But in SCII, I only cared a little bit for Tychus and the Jukebox. Three campaigns would e nice, but I don't have the money to spend on a game and two expansions, call me cheap. I just don't like Blizzard's economic model.

And then there's the multiplayer which speaks for itself. Not only is it more fun, but each race is evolved to where in each tier, they play completelly differently than in SC 1.

I love blizzard, they are on of my favorite companies, I however don't like all of their choices, but SC 2 is not SC 1.5, it's far more. They've changed what need to be changed, the campaign, and they've evolved what didn't even need to be evolved,the mp.

I'm not much of a competitive player for RTSs, but I try now and again. But the SC 1.5 part was written in a joking tone, as they'll be three expansions and I consider is a bit of a prologue, with the last being either SC 2 or SC 2.5. Weird system, eh?

Roris0A

Thanks for setting up what you're supposed to -- a strawman. The post was concerning the sixty dollar price tag on Blizzard games, which the other user said is what Blizzard charges for them. But I didn't say Blizzard was greedy, they will "milk the cow" because the prices for Diablo 2, an older game, is thirty-five dollars. I'll ignore the rest of the above filler as it's not addressing my actual post.

Actually I didn't, because first what else am I supposed to derive from "Milking the Cow"? Espicially when you call Sc2 1.2 at the end. Also milking the cow has always beena term associated with greed.Please take into account what you said as a whole.

And the rest of my post isn't filler, it's directly countering why blizzard isn't milking the cow when you take alook at the whole picture in how they're playing the market. Whether it be with their WoW expansions, or how they price their games in different countries. Blizzard charges a good premium for Diablo 2 because it's still selling well, it's simply supply and demand. If it wasn't, it would be cheaper, just like the Starcraft Battle chest is. In an interview I read from them, apparently it's still on the top 20 in retail alone for pc during most of year. That's why most retailers, even gamestop, carries it for their pc game setion.

Personally, I agree that it's expensive, as I only bought my boxset from gogamer.com, which they had on sale. And in addition I recently bought the Warcraft 3 battlechest from them, which was also on sale for 25$ instead of its $40 at most retailers. But I cant knock blizzard for connecting with market smartly. Especially when as a whole, they could be charging a lot more for some of their titles. I know I will be oneof the many who buys cata on first day for just $40.

The achievements are fun little carrot-on-a-stick features, I'll give you that one. And luckily for me, my favorite faction is Terran. But when the game was over and the dust settled, I wasn't too happy wth the outcome -- that would be because I was spoiled with Mass Effect 2's excellent cinematic presentation. I was on the edge of my seat during that last mission! But that has no bearing here, we get a little less than thirty missiosn and about six or seven are Protoss (Protose, anyone?). But I won't get into this and that, but Brood War was amazing back in the day, with that little marine being left at the beginning and then Dugaule killing himself at the end, those were moments that I felt for the characters. But in SCII, I only cared a little bit for Tychus and the Jukebox. Three campaigns would e nice, but I don't have the money to spend on a game and two expansions, call me cheap. I just don't like Blizzard's economic model.

This I can agree with, if someone personally doesn't like the campaign (but comparinig to a story-driven RPG like Mass Effect won't help ya) and really isn't into the mp, I can see how they would left feeling a little empty. But calling it SC 1.5, by stating it by pure techincal design choices on paper (as you didn't say that you personally weren't into the mp and didn't enjoy the sp) simply isn't true. The changes, evolution is all there, and most people really enjoyed them with it having anicemetacritic score.

I'm not much of a competitive player for RTSs, but I try now and again. But the SC 1.5 part was written in a joking tone, as they'll be three expansions and I consider is a bit of a prologue, with the last being either SC 2 or SC 2.5. Weird system, eh?

I can see how the story would be called parts, and I would agree to an extent since it's a depature from the original, but with each being full length games, I think it's just a different way to tell Starcraft, rather than it being just apercent.Granted, you have to wait, but after personally playing what I thought was an amazing campaign, I would love to see the other two races just as fully fleshed out with CGI interactive characters and whatnot. You can look at it however you want of course.

As a whole, I didn't mean to jump on you, especially when hearing that you were fan of the first, but from the tone of most of your posts, I just thought you were hating on blizzard. Also I don't think you should try mp over and over, as competition will always be competition if you don't find your balance between it and what's fun in your multiplayer sessions.

Sheppard212

YES!!!! Been waiting 10 years for this game. The 1.13 patch, Titan Quest, and Torchlight have been unable to satisfy my Diablo addiction (even though TQ and Torchlight are great games). I want Diablo III more than any other game.

never played diablo 1 or 2, because i was a retard console boy at that time. (money)

But when i got my first pc, dungeon siege was the big hit, so i think i will get/love diablo 3 but i can wait for another year or 2 :)

The classes suck.