Why a pc over a console for gaming?

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#1 vIGAMEIv
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Im not trying to start a war Im just curious because I have an xbox 360.Im currently on Tour and when I get home my wife jokes how Im going to take over the Tv again playing xbox360.I was thinking so why dont I just make the desktop a gaming one.Now Im old school(29) Im used to playing on a 55inch screen I mean how diffrent is it going down to a 24inch screen?what are the advantages of pc over a console?
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#2 Marfoo
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Well, you always get the latest and greatest hardware. Basically all the parts put into a console are PC parts, but by the time they hit the consumer they are outdated. For example, the graphics hardware in an Xbox360 has 300+ million transistors in it, the current high end GPU on PC has over 2 billion transistors, and one with 3 billion should be out pretty soon. The downside, it's expensive. Better graphics, better customizations. Not only do you get a powerful gaming machine, you get a fast PC as well. That's just some of the things.
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#3 ironman388
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games generally look much better on pc than consoles and you also get the mouse and keyboard support which for shooters is way better than a controller when it comes to precision and it also allows for better rts games. if the games are better on PC is a matter of opinion however. i prefer pc games but one of the nice perks about console gaming is that the community is a lot larger and i can play with my friends. i only know one person on my steam account in real life, however it's always nice to play with people you know, which is probably one of the few advantages of console gaming.

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looks better, runs better, mouse keyboard

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cant really play with friends (if that matters to you) unless they like pc games also, which not many do for some reason

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#4 vIGAMEIv
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"]Well, you always get the latest and greatest hardware. Basically all the parts put into a console are PC parts, but by the time they hit the consumer they are outdated. For example, the graphics hardware in an Xbox360 has 300+ million transistors in it, the current high end GPU on PC has over 2 billion transistors, and one with 3 billion should be out pretty soon. The downside, it's expensive. Better graphics, better customizations. Not only do you get a powerful gaming machine, you get a fast PC as well. That's just some of the things.

Thanks for the input I seen some pretty cool games like that star wars old republic looks pretty good,yeah Im a star wars nerd.So how about the screen size I mean going from a 52inch to a 24 inch to play games.
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Lots and lots of games >>>>>http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/ Better graphics and more options in games that are multiplatform on PC. You can hook your PC up to a 55" tv and play with a controller just like a console if you want to as well.
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"]Well, you always get the latest and greatest hardware. Basically all the parts put into a console are PC parts, but by the time they hit the consumer they are outdated. For example, the graphics hardware in an Xbox360 has 300+ million transistors in it, the current high end GPU on PC has over 2 billion transistors, and one with 3 billion should be out pretty soon. The downside, it's expensive. Better graphics, better customizations. Not only do you get a powerful gaming machine, you get a fast PC as well. That's just some of the things.vIGAMEIv
Thanks for the input I seen some pretty cool games like that star wars old republic looks pretty good,yeah Im a star wars nerd.So how about the screen size I mean going from a 52inch to a 24 inch to play games.

It's not bad at all, for one you sit a lot closer, and generally all 24" monitors are at least 1080p. Not to mention with a powerful machine you can run your games at 1080p with lots of filtering too, then when you go back to compare to console, there is no comparison really.
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#7 vIGAMEIv
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Lots and lots of games >>>>> Better graphics and more options in games that are multiplatform on PC. You can hook your PC up to a 55" tv and play with a controller just like a console if you want to as well.TheDuffman26
That would be cool ,But I know thats not going to fly with the wife ,Im sure it should be fine I have friends say playing games like cod look better on a smaller screen
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#8 Captain__Tripps
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It might be 52", but your only playing at 720P, if your lucky. 24" will be at least 1080p, and being so close to the monitor will make up size differences...
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#9 vIGAMEIv
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How long do Game pc last I mean I heard 2 years god dam thats short any input on this?I would love for it to last at least 4 years because this is a pc also for my family to use.
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[QUOTE="TheDuffman26"]Lots and lots of games >>>>> Better graphics and more options in games that are multiplatform on PC. You can hook your PC up to a 55" tv and play with a controller just like a console if you want to as well.vIGAMEIv
That would be cool ,But I know thats not going to fly with the wife ,Im sure it should be fine I have friends say playing games like cod look better on a smaller screen

It's all about resolution. Most 24" monitors support 1900x1200..... more detail on the screen than a 1080p television.
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#11 vIGAMEIv
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It might be 52", but your only playing at 720P, if your lucky. 24" will be at least 1080p, and being so close to the monitor will make up size differences...Captain__Tripps
Thanks for that Input.
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#12 Marfoo
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How long do Game pc last I mean I heard 2 years god dam thats short any input on this?I would love for it to last at least 4 years because this is a pc also for my family to use.vIGAMEIv
You can get a machine to last at least 4 years for sure. Sure you won't be able to max every game out there but they'll run just fine. You'll just have to put it up with it not being the latest and greatest, that's all.
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How long do Game pc last I mean I heard 2 years god dam thats short any input on this?I would love for it to last at least 4 years because this is a pc also for my family to use.vIGAMEIv
If you invest in a nice graphics card, then you will easily get 4+ years of gaming on the PC. Newer games are always coming out pushing the limits of hardware. GPU's from 6-7 years ago can still play them, just not on max settings.
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#14 vIGAMEIv
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[QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"]How long do Game pc last I mean I heard 2 years god dam thats short any input on this?I would love for it to last at least 4 years because this is a pc also for my family to use.Marfoo
You can get a machine to last at least 4 years for sure. Sure you won't be able to max every game out there but they'll run just fine. You'll just have to put it up with it not being the latest and greatest, that's all.

Thats cool love the forum alot more helpful then when I went to bestbuy today.I asked the guy the difrence on the processors he was like"well the more money you spend the better the computer" yeah that was his answer.
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#15 vIGAMEIv
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So what matters the most for a gaming Pc?I know Graphics card does but what else?
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#16 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"]How long do Game pc last I mean I heard 2 years god dam thats short any input on this?I would love for it to last at least 4 years because this is a pc also for my family to use.vIGAMEIv
You can get a machine to last at least 4 years for sure. Sure you won't be able to max every game out there but they'll run just fine. You'll just have to put it up with it not being the latest and greatest, that's all.

Thats cool love the forum alot more helpful then when I went to bestbuy today.I asked the guy the difrence on the processors he was like"well the more money you spend the better the computer" yeah that was his answer.

Lol, yeah I'm sure a lot of us here can do 10x the job those guys do. So whatever you want to know, ask away, we're glad to help. :)
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So what matters the most for a gaming Pc?I know Graphics card does but what else?vIGAMEIv
GPU, CPU, and RAM are all important. And a PSU with the power to run a decent GPU.
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#19 vIGAMEIv
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SO WHO WANTS TO HELP ME GET A GAMING PC!!!!!!!!!!!
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#20 vIGAMEIv
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what are you guys thoughts on Alienware?
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#21 LittleEnid
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I don't know if it was mentioned, but there's two more things PC gaming has to offer over consoles:

You can mod/customize some games, such as your interface in World of Warcraft, or how your character looks in Oblivion, where consoles don't allow for that.

And you'll be eligible for more free content on PC versus XBox Live or Playstation Network, where everything but demos costs money.

I love my consoles because I can play in my room and leave my PC in the office downstairs, but there's still a lot of games that are more fun to play with a keyboard and mouse. Additionally, when I play with other people online, I run into a lot less cheaters while playing on a console than on a PC.

As far as getting used to a smaller screen, I actually prefer playing on a monitor, because it's so much closer and has a higher resolution, so it's a lot easier to see everything as opposed to my tv.

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#22 Marfoo
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what are you guys thoughts on Alienware?vIGAMEIv
I'll tell you now, don't do it. You'll get a much better machine if you build your own and you'll save several hundred dollars. That's another thing about PC gaming that's fun, you get to design and build your own machine.
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[QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"]what are you guys thoughts on Alienware?Marfoo
I'll tell you now, don't do it. You'll get a much better machine if you build your own and you'll save several hundred dollars. That's another thing about PC gaming that's fun, you get to design and build your own machine.

Building is not an option though I need a computer quick.I also have no idea how to build one and would like the added warranty that the big companys provide.
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#24 LittleEnid
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[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"]what are you guys thoughts on Alienware?vIGAMEIv
I'll tell you now, don't do it. You'll get a much better machine if you build your own and you'll save several hundred dollars. That's another thing about PC gaming that's fun, you get to design and build your own machine.

Building is not an option though I need a computer quick.I also have no idea how to build one and would like the added warranty that the big companys provide.

I would still avoid the stock computers they sell at places like Best Buy. My boyfriend builds computers, and we both found it to be more economical to order a custom PC through Dell. Do a little research about what you want out of your PC and check out what they have to offer at their website. I've found that for the same price (if you look in the right places) you can get a MUCH more powerful PC from them than you would if you pulled a Dell computer off the shelf at any electronics shop.

Don't rush buying a PC, unless you're just looking to throw away money.

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I didn't read what other people said, so sorry if there is any repatition. Gaming on a PC is amazing. You can use a mouse and keyboard or any controler you want. You get better online (and free), generally through dedicated servers and services such as Steam and xFire. Cheaper games.

Your main question seemed to be the change from a 50+ inch TV to a monitor. I like the smaller yet higher resolution monitors more than a larger 1080p TV. Obviously the high resolution, high refresh rate, and faster response times are nice, but, even though the minitor is 20 or so inchs, because you are sitting closer, the monitor takes up more of you field of view. So, in a way, it ends up looking larger, and still keep its higher resolution.

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[QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"][QUOTE="Marfoo"] I'll tell you now, don't do it. You'll get a much better machine if you build your own and you'll save several hundred dollars. That's another thing about PC gaming that's fun, you get to design and build your own machine.LittleEnid

Building is not an option though I need a computer quick.I also have no idea how to build one and would like the added warranty that the big companys provide.

I would still avoid the stock computers they sell at places like Best Buy. My boyfriend builds computers, and we both found it to be more economical to order a custom PC through Dell. Do a little research about what you want out of your PC and check out what they have to offer at their website. I've found that for the same price (if you look in the right places) you can get a MUCH more powerful PC from them than you would if you pulled a Dell computer off the shelf at any electronics shop.

Don't rush buying a PC, unless you're just looking to throw away money.

I appreciate that,I kind of was looking at Alienware now that Im intrested in gaming but my options went from typical things to things I have no clue if I need or not.
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what are you guys thoughts on Alienware?vIGAMEIv

If you don't want to build a computer, then maybe an Alienware will be fine. However, there are disadvantages with going with a pre-built PC (I don't know how much of this applies to Alienware).

1. Overpriced. Like Apple, Pre-built PC Vendors may charge an insane mark up on the actual value of the PC. Some low-end pre-built PCs costing around $300 are cheaper than pre-builts, though.

2. OS comes bloated with 30 day trials and useless programs running in the background.

3. Horrible tech support. You get your call outsourced to India and Ireland. They get payed below minimum wage and could care less whether you fix your problem or not. Google.com is best.

4. Sometimes, they may cut corners to save costs and that is reflected in the quality of the product. A lot of pre-built computers come with a cheap ass PSU that will not support future hardware and a mini-ATX board with little to no expansion. Some are advertised as 'extreme gaming computers' but come with a 9600gt.

I would recommend building your own PC using parts from sites such as newegg.com and tigerdirect.com and looking at benchmarks to decide which parts are right for you. If you give a budget, we can give you some recommendations.

About warranty. All my parts have at least a 3-year warranty. My PSU and HDD have a 5-year warranty.

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[QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"]what are you guys thoughts on Alienware?simplyderp

If you don't want to build a computer, then maybe an Alienware will be fine. However, there are disadvantages with going with a pre-built PC (I don't know how much of this applies to Alienware).

1. Overpriced. Like Apple, Pre-built PC Vendors may charge an insane mark up on the actual value of the PC. Some low-end pre-built PCs costing around $300 are cheaper than pre-builts, though.

2. OS comes bloated with 30 day trials and useless programs running in the background.

3. Horrible tech support. You get your call outsourced to India and Ireland. They get payed below minimum wage and could care less whether you fix your problem or not. Google.com is best.

4. Sometimes, they may cut corners to save costs and that is reflected in the quality of the product. A lot of pre-built computers come with a cheap ass PSU that will not support future hardware and a mini-ATX board with little to no expansion. Some are advertised as 'extreme gaming computers' but come with a 9600gt.

I would recommend building your own PC using parts from sites such as newegg.com and tigerdirect.com and looking at benchmarks to decide which parts are right for you. If you give a budget, we can give you some recommendations.

I really cant build my own I have never even seen the inside of a desktop lol
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#29 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"][QUOTE="simplyderp"]

what are you guys thoughts on Alienware?vIGAMEIv

If you don't want to build a computer, then maybe an Alienware will be fine. However, there are disadvantages with going with a pre-built PC (I don't know how much of this applies to Alienware).

1. Overpriced. Like Apple, Pre-built PC Vendors may charge an insane mark up on the actual value of the PC. Some low-end pre-built PCs costing around $300 are cheaper than pre-builts, though.

2. OS comes bloated with 30 day trials and useless programs running in the background.

3. Horrible tech support. You get your call outsourced to India and Ireland. They get payed below minimum wage and could care less whether you fix your problem or not. Google.com is best.

4. Sometimes, they may cut corners to save costs and that is reflected in the quality of the product. A lot of pre-built computers come with a cheap ass PSU that will not support future hardware and a mini-ATX board with little to no expansion. Some are advertised as 'extreme gaming computers' but come with a 9600gt.

I would recommend building your own PC using parts from sites such as newegg.com and tigerdirect.com and looking at benchmarks to decide which parts are right for you. If you give a budget, we can give you some recommendations.

I really cant build my own I have never even seen the inside of a desktop lol

Take a look at the sticked topic on this forum "Picture guide to building a PC" or something like that. More or less shows the process. It's really a lot easier than you may think. I mean if you don't have the time that's fine, but it might help to know what goes into it.
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[QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"]I really cant build my own I have never even seen the inside of a desktop lol Marfoo
Take a look at the sticked topic on this forum "Picture guide to building a PC" or something like that. More or less shows the process. It's really a lot easier than you may think. I mean if you don't have the time that's fine, but it might help to know what goes into it.

seriously...once you see the very small amount of parts involved it won't seem so hard.

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[QUOTE="vIGAMEIv"][QUOTE="simplyderp"]

If you don't want to build a computer, then maybe an Alienware will be fine. However, there are disadvantages with going with a pre-built PC (I don't know how much of this applies to Alienware).

1. Overpriced. Like Apple, Pre-built PC Vendors may charge an insane mark up on the actual value of the PC. Some low-end pre-built PCs costing around $300 are cheaper than pre-builts, though.

2. OS comes bloated with 30 day trials and useless programs running in the background.

3. Horrible tech support. You get your call outsourced to India and Ireland. They get payed below minimum wage and could care less whether you fix your problem or not. Google.com is best.

4. Sometimes, they may cut corners to save costs and that is reflected in the quality of the product. A lot of pre-built computers come with a cheap ass PSU that will not support future hardware and a mini-ATX board with little to no expansion. Some are advertised as 'extreme gaming computers' but come with a 9600gt.

I would recommend building your own PC using parts from sites such as newegg.com and tigerdirect.com and looking at benchmarks to decide which parts are right for you. If you give a budget, we can give you some recommendations.

Marfoo

I really cant build my own I have never even seen the inside of a desktop lol

Take a look at the sticked topic on this forum "Picture guide to building a PC" or something like that. More or less shows the process. It's really a lot easier than you may think. I mean if you don't have the time that's fine, but it might help to know what goes into it.

let him buy a computer geez, got like everyone telling him to build, build build, when he just said twice he doesnt have time, and doesnt want to. Alienware is alright, just overpriced is all

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#32 vIGAMEIv
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Anybody have time to try and build me a gaming Alienware desktop frim Dell. The cheaper the better but I need something that will Run the starwars games really good on cod type games.Ohh and has to be able to stream spongebob for my daughter great.I would Like to stay under $1500.00 thanks.
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#33 smc91352
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Anybody have time to try and build me a gaming desktop?vIGAMEIv
If you need a new PC, you should ask UltimateGamer95 to build it for you.my sig
Why not ask her? She's built 'em for people here before.
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#34 shakmaster13
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Anybody have time to try and build me a gaming Alienware desktop frim Dell. The cheaper the better but I need something that will Run the starwars games really good on cod type games.Ohh and has to be able to stream spongebob for my daughter great.I would Like to stay under $1500.00 thanks.vIGAMEIv

I would suggest you look athttp://www.ibuypower.com/andhttp://www.cyberpowerpc.com/as they are much cheaper alternatives to Alienware.