Why do more people prefer Intel and Nvidia?

I know their products may have a 5% edge over ATI/AMD but come on. I support the company in 2nd because it keeps the competition going and fuels the ridiculously cheap prices online. AMD's dual core CPU prices have been halved since last Christmas. We need to keep them both alive for another 20 yearswhen gameswill look like real life and there will be no need to upgrade your computer. So why do people flock to Intel and Nvidia?

cheap prices my friend, e650 for $230 canadianj, amd cant beat that. C2D perform much better than X2's. However on the nvidia/ati side it goes both ways, I chose the 2900 because it was gaining momentum in benches. Quite simply though people just gofor what they feel has the best price/performance. INtel is the clear winner but ati/nvidia is more in the air.

Dont get me wrong I hope amd comes back strong with the phenom butI simply couldn't wait until when the phenom's come out, especially considering amd wont match intel's pricing.

Dont get me wrong I hope amd comes back strong with the phenom butI simply couldn't wait until when the phenom's come out, especially considering amd wont match intel's pricing.filmography

What?
They have to if they want to compete...
Barcelona is MUCH better priced than Xeons right now.

Bang for the buck.

I've been using AMD/ATI systems for6-7 years. I've always liked AMD CPU's because they've been good performers and cost significantly less than Intel chips. But now, Intel doesn't have any real competition with its new processors. AMD's price/performance index just isn't what it used to be.

As for Nvidia vs ATI, I don't have a preference. I bought an Nvidia this time because I knew it was a good performer and ATI hadn't released itsnew serieswhen I was ready to upgrade.

Bang for the buck.

I've been using AMD/ATI systems for6-7 years. I've always liked AMD CPU's because they've been good performers and cost significantly less than Intel chips. But now, Intel doesn't have any real competition with its new processors. AMD's price/performance index just isn't what it used to be.

As for Nvidia vs ATI, I don't have a preference. I bought an Nvidia this time because I knew it was a good performer and ATI hadn't released itsnew serieswhen I was ready to upgrade.

Yura_Narsole

Joke? AMD's Athlon 64 X2s are a far better value if you aren't an overclocker or aren't aiming for a quad-core / higher-end dual-cores. The majority of people out there don't overclock, so A64 X2s are still an excellent choice.

cheap prices my friend, e650 for $230 canadianj, amd cant beat that. C2D perform much better than X2's. However on the nvidia/ati side it goes both ways, I chose the 2900 because it was gaining momentum in benches. Quite simply though people just gofor what they feel has the best price/performance. INtel is the clear winner but ati/nvidia is more in the air.

Dont get me wrong I hope amd comes back strong with the phenom butI simply couldn't wait until when the phenom's come out, especially considering amd wont match intel's pricing.

filmography

nvidia has about 4 low-end DX10 cards out so they rule the market ATM except for fanboys.Swiftstrike5

Just a LITTLE wrong there...

Core2Duo destroyed AMD (K10 will show if AMD is still in the race or if they will drop out). ATI also doesn't have a card out to compete with the 8800GTX (8800GTS has best price/preformance) and nvidia has about 4 low-end DX10 cards out so they rule the market ATM except for fanboys.Swiftstrike5

Destroy? No. K8 destroyed Netburst. Core / Core 2 are simply better for than K8, but nowhere near as significantly as K8 beating out Netburst.

The HD2900XT can somewhat compete with the 8800GTX, so meh.

nVidia only has like two low-end DX10 cards, the 8400GS and 8500GT. The 8600s are considered mid-range, and ATi's mid-range/low-end are overall better choices currently.

Well for me - this rig is my first personal Intel rig (been using AMD all along previously) so I wanna give Intel a try..

I got an Intel because of all those reports of being a good overclocker - so again, I wanted to give it try - if I wasn't overclocking, I would just have stuck with AMD...

Because Nvidia currently has the best video cards and Intel currently has the best processors. It's just as simple as that.

I like AMD more than Intel or Nvidia but I still have Q6600 and 8800GTX because 2 months ago when I built it there was nothing that AMD or Ati had that coudn't compete in the slightest.

I did it because everyone else was:)da1on2

Core2Duo destroyed AMD (K10 will show if AMD is still in the race or if they will drop out). ATI also doesn't have a card out to compete with the 8800GTX (8800GTS has best price/preformance) and nvidia has about 4 low-end DX10 cards out so they rule the market ATM except for fanboys.Swiftstrike5

I'd say at the 400 dollar mark that ATI has the definate edge. The 2900XT is superior card to the 8800 GTS 640 MB in most benchmarks now that the drivers have been fixed, and in some games it rivals the 8800 GTX (while remaining 100 dollars cheaper). True, ATI doesn't have a flagship card to really compete with the GTX, but at its price point it's definately got alot of potential.

I agree that intel simply has better processors, but if you aren't overclocking then AMD has great price/performance with procs like the 5600+ X2.

I do agree that competition is really important, but then again, its not the consumers responsibility to keep companies going strong. I would say that if you are choosing between an ATI or Nvidia card (or an AMD or intel proc) and you are having trouble deciding, that going for the AMD/ATI may be serving the greater good. I think AMD/ATI will be fine in the long run though.

Because nVidia and Intel won this round.

Step into Louie's time machine, punch in January 2004, and you'll find most enthusiasts buying Athlon 64 3200s and Radeon 9800XTs.

[QUOTE="da1on2"]I did it because everyone else was:)mbukste

Because nVidia and Intel won this round.

Step into Louie's time machine, punch in January 2004, and you'll find most enthusiasts buying Athlon 64 3200s and Radeon 9800XTs.

My_name_a_Borat

[QUOTE="mbukste"][QUOTE="da1on2"]I did it because everyone else was:)da1on2

I know their products may have a 5% edge over ATI/AMD but come on. I support the company in 2nd because it keeps the competition going and fuels the ridiculously cheap prices online. AMD's dual core CPU prices have been halved since last Christmas. We need to keep them both alive for another 20 yearswhen gameswill look like real life and there will be no need to upgrade your computer. So why do people flock to Intel and Nvidia?

f789790

My old cpu was a athlon t-bird 1.3Ghz, then I bought an athlon XP 2400+. However in my new rig I bought a Core 2 Duo, any gamer worth his salt would be stupid not to buy a core 2 duo,they are simply beasts, and they overclock like no other. AMD cannot match it at any price...

As far as Nvidia, well...ATI has there self to blame. I choose the 8600GTS because i needed a middle ranged card, and quite frankly the GTS spits all over the 2400/2600XT series.

My old cpu was a athlon t-bird 1.3Ghz, then I bought an athlon XP 2400+. However in my new rig I bought a Core 2 Duo, any gamer worth his salt would be stupid not to buy a core 2 duo,they are simply beasts, and they overclock like no other. AMD cannot match it at any price...

As far as Nvidia, well...ATI has there self to blame. I choose the 8600GTS because i needed a middle ranged card, and quite frankly the GTS spits all over the 2400/2600XT series.Innovazero2000

Wow... AMD can/is competing when users are not OCing, please read the thread.

Yep, AMD has itself to blame for completely dominating the OEM market.

I know their products may have a 5% edge over ATI/AMD but come on. I support the company in 2nd because it keeps the competition going and fuels the ridiculously cheap prices online. AMD's dual core CPU prices have been halved since last Christmas. We need to keep them both alive for another 20 yearswhen gameswill look like real life and there will be no need to upgrade your computer. So why do people flock to Intel and Nvidia?

f789790

That is the most retarded idealogy...ever. I'm sorry, but there's no other words I can use.

You're encouraging a company for not releasing a better product. This goes against the most basic concepts of economics, regarding competition.

According to your logic, we should all have bought Intel Pentium 4's instead of Athlon 64's, because Intel had the crappy product. Rather, following your logic, AMD should just cut all R&D because they know consumers like you will buy their second rate products regardless.

Consumers should always go for the product that is the best, or go for products that have a lower opportunity cost (which is why AMD have lowered their prices). You should NEVER go for a product because its company is second. Go for a product because of the former reasons I stated.

i just buy whatever gives me the best performance for the price point i am paying...

had a pentium 2 to athlon xp, athlon 3400+, 9800 pro, then went to a opteron 146 & 7900gt, then now im going Q6600 & hd2900xt. I dont see how anyone can buy something from a company based on the fact they like that company more , unless the company in the past has treated you badly with poor service etc.

I just go for the best, bottom line! And right at this very moment, Intel&Nvidia have the best.Bebi_vegeta

Ditto

I prefer the best so for me that's the 6600 and SLI 8800gtx both oc'd, AMD is for budget pc's andATI cards use too much juice and don't oc very well plus bench lower.Next time I upgrade maybe AMD/ATI with have some better products for me to buy cause they are clearly in 2nd place.BrooklynBomber

AMD cards dont overclock well.....thats an incorrect statement.

Intel and Nvidia has better marketing strategies...shafrox

You mean them branding a bunch of power supplies and games? Go ahead and let yourself be manipulated.

[QUOTE="shafrox"]Intel and Nvidia has better marketing strategies...f789790

You mean them branding a bunch of power supplies and games? Go ahead and let yourself be manipulated.

I own an ATI card for your information.

[QUOTE="f789790"]

[QUOTE="shafrox"]Intel and Nvidia has better marketing strategies...shafrox

You mean them branding a bunch of power supplies and games? Go ahead and let yourself be manipulated.

I own an ATI card for your information.

I own an AMD processor too.

Because nVidia and Intel won this round.

My_name_a_Borat

maybe

and :lol: at your sig

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]nvidia has about 4 low-end DX10 cards out so they rule the market ATM except for fanboys.LordEC911

Just a LITTLE wrong there...

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"]I prefer the best so for me that's the 6600 and SLI 8800gtx both oc'd, AMD is for budget pc's andATI cards use too much juice and don't oc very well plus bench lower.Next time I upgrade maybe AMD/ATI with have some better products for me to buy cause they are clearly in 2nd place.9mmSpliff

AMD cards dont overclock well.....thats an incorrect statement.

[QUOTE="LordEC911"]

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]nvidia has about 4 low-end DX10 cards out so they rule the market ATM except for fanboys.codezer0

Just a LITTLE wrong there...

EC was talking about AMD's huge sales of 2400 and 2600 chips and SKUs to OEMs. Hence that AMD's ratio of profit from low end chips is higher than NVIDIA's ratio.

I go where the best processor is, but as for video I'm all for ATI. Plus it was the best choice for my requirements from what I saw of benchmarks online.

[QUOTE="LordEC911"]

[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]nvidia has about 4 low-end DX10 cards out so they rule the market ATM except for fanboys.codezer0

Just a LITTLE wrong there...

You should be agreeing with me but you are agreeing with him...

AMD has the lowend market dominated.
Great video accelleration, low power consumption, low prices.

His statement should be that AMD dominates the low-end DX10 card market ATM except for (nvidia) fanboys...

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"]

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"]I prefer the best so for me that's the 6600 and SLI 8800gtx both oc'd, AMD is for budget pc's andATI cards use too much juice and don't oc very well plus bench lower.Next time I upgrade maybe AMD/ATI with have some better products for me to buy cause they are clearly in 2nd place.BrooklynBomber

AMD cards dont overclock well.....thats an incorrect statement.

That i stupidlettuceman44

HAHAHA! Now that's a classic quote.