Why do people claim Crysis runs badly... (56k, no)

I just bought a new PC, it's fairly high end but it's not like I've overdone it, P5K, e6750, 512mb HD3870, 4GB's of RAM (would run the same on 2GB), Vista 64bit (makes things run slower).

So, I don't have any insane quad core CPU, or 8800GTX Ultra or anything, yet I can run Crysis on Very High at 1280*1024forcing DX9 mode (which looks exactly like DX10), and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.

Here's some screenshots. I haven't shrunk these from thier 1280 res.

Ok,

I'm afraid I only thought to take shots near the end of the demo, hence why I didn't get any of the water or cool light ray through tree's effects. But this is running on Very High without any problems, and I'm not even using an 8800. Sure it doesn't run as well as Unreal Engine 3, but then it looks a whole heap better.

and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.DriftRS

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

20-25 fps isn't that great, especially at such a mediocre resolution. Even if you think that's enough, the full game has levels that run way slower than that demo level.Gog

Yah, thats why I'm gonna be upgrading to a 9800GTX later. But it is true, the game doesn't "lag" as long as ur around 25fps, anything above 20 is fine really. Dunno why, STALKER is awful at that fps, but not Crysis.

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.Cobra_nVidia

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

20 frames in crysis runs fine, it really depends on the game for e.g. halo cant go above 30 fps and its silky smooth but then Quake 4 at 30 fps is terrible.

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[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.wood_duck

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

20 frames in crysis runs fine, it really depends on the game for e.g. halo cant go above 30 fps and its silky smooth but then Quake 4 at 30 fps is terrible.

Team Fortress 2 for me is unplayable under 45 frames a second, at least with the scout class anyway.

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[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.wood_duck

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

20 frames in crysis runs fine, it really depends on the game for e.g. halo cant go above 30 fps and its silky smooth but then Quake 4 at 30 fps is terrible.

Your inability to percieve 20 fps as blatantly inferior to 60 fps does not mean it's not there. Obviously 20 fps constant is better than a drop from 60 to 20. Doesn't make it "good". It just means you don't mind it.

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[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.Cobra_nVidia

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

20 frames in crysis runs fine, it really depends on the game for e.g. halo cant go above 30 fps and its silky smooth but then Quake 4 at 30 fps is terrible.

Your inability to percieve 20 fps as blatantly inferior to 60 fps does not mean it's not there. Obviously 20 fps constant is better than a drop from 60 to 20. Doesn't make it "good". It just means you don't mind it.

The human eye sees at 60 FPS. Anything below that is literally "less than perfect". 20-25 FPS is less than half and is easily perceived as being choppy. So don't tell me that 20 FPS is acceptable.

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[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.Johnny_Rock

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

20 frames in crysis runs fine, it really depends on the game for e.g. halo cant go above 30 fps and its silky smooth but then Quake 4 at 30 fps is terrible.

Your inability to percieve 20 fps as blatantly inferior to 60 fps does not mean it's not there. Obviously 20 fps constant is better than a drop from 60 to 20. Doesn't make it "good". It just means you don't mind it.

The human eye sees at 60 FPS. Anything below that is literally "less than perfect". 20-25 FPS is less than half and is easily perceived as being choppy. So don't tell me that 20 FPS is acceptable.

Sorry Mr. Scientist. Actually, as long as the framerate is consistant, the brain won't trigger anything is wrong. Look at movies for example. They are all filmed at 30fps.

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[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.Johnny_Rock

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

20 frames in crysis runs fine, it really depends on the game for e.g. halo cant go above 30 fps and its silky smooth but then Quake 4 at 30 fps is terrible.

Your inability to percieve 20 fps as blatantly inferior to 60 fps does not mean it's not there. Obviously 20 fps constant is better than a drop from 60 to 20. Doesn't make it "good". It just means you don't mind it.

The human eye sees at 60 FPS. Anything below that is literally "less than perfect". 20-25 FPS is less than half and is easily perceived as being choppy. So don't tell me that 20 FPS is acceptable.

Thats partly true, but notreally the whole story. Your saying all games look the same at the same FPS. I mean, movies run at like 24fps, yetthey look fine thanks to the blurring of the images. Some games like Stalker and Halo as people have said look awful at 30 fps, yet even the performance guides for Crysis mention that anything above 20fps is fine.

Try it before you claim it's easilly percieved as choppy, in Crysis you can tell it's slower when it's running at 20fps, but I wouldn't call it "lag" it's not like the mouse or anything else lags, it's still very easy to navigate aim and everything else, it just doesn't look as smooth. At 30fps in Crysis though, everything runs fine and does look smooth, I don't know if it might be it's motion blur,fast objects blur and you don't notice it or something, but Crysis really does run perfectly well at 30fps. You can tell 60fps runs faster, but it just doesn't make enough of a difference to warrant the decrease in graphics, as it doesn't hurt gameplay at all and looks fine.

Hope that makes sence lol.

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[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.rimnet00

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

20 frames in crysis runs fine, it really depends on the game for e.g. halo cant go above 30 fps and its silky smooth but then Quake 4 at 30 fps is terrible.

Your inability to percieve 20 fps as blatantly inferior to 60 fps does not mean it's not there. Obviously 20 fps constant is better than a drop from 60 to 20. Doesn't make it "good". It just means you don't mind it.

The human eye sees at 60 FPS. Anything below that is literally "less than perfect". 20-25 FPS is less than half and is easily perceived as being choppy. So don't tell me that 20 FPS is acceptable.

Sorry Mr. Scientist. Actually, as long as the framerate is consistant, the brain won't trigger anything is wrong. Look at movies for example. They are all filmed at 30fps.

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.Cobra_nVidia

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

in other game yeah but the motion blurin crysis is what makes it appear like its running smoothly at low fps 25-35 fps in other games if u played it at that fps there would be noticable lag.

Pretty good.

P.S. If you want better performance,OC your E6750.

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]and it runs about 22-25fps, which is perfectly smooth. It sometimes dips to 20, or can get upto 30, but either way there's no descernable lag.Cobra_nVidia

Most people would define 20 frames per second as bad.

I would. If I get an FPS around 20 I can see a noticable stutter. I'd rather tune down the graphics to get a higher FPS. And if I have to do that, why should I buy a game whos selling point is graphics? I'll wait a year or so until my rig can handle it smoothly.

Very High DX9 Hack =/= DX10

DX10 has much better looking shading on rocks etc. HD3870 is still considered "high end" (beats 8800GTS 320mb and 640mb). Not to mention you only played the first level (unless you have pics). It gets much tougher on systems after the first level. Try first part of Assualt and watch your system cry. If you get 20fps on the first level, on assualt you'll get about 3 or 4.