Why do people hate EA Origin?

can someone explain this to me? Steam everyone hold as the saviour of pc games to many people but then why does everyone go onto hate Origin? is it just a them and us kind of thing?

To me from what I read it's just band wagon, hating that people jump on for no rational reason.

I for one get speeds i had no idea I could reach, and never could hope to get on steam.

My internet went out in the area for a couple of days and Steam dosen't let me play and Origin does...

So WHAT is it that is so bad, i know EA is 'evil' because it's about making money (because steam isn't...?), people will probably take this as a troll with all the hate, byt honestly i don't see it so please post actual reasons for why origin is bad and competitors like steam are not... and not just 'because it sucks and they made mass effect 3 bad hurr durr...'

thanks

PS: I would like to point out i prefer to use no software like steam or origin if it's available, just don't get the love for steam and the complete irrational hate for origin

In short, you already said it yourself "people jump on for no rational reason.", no more no less, even if they want you to believe something else, they're paranoid, mindless drones.

For someone who already has over 100 games on one client organized just the way he wants, being forced to download another client for two games is kind of annoying, especially because both have their own bugs and moments of unresponsiveness.

Becuase Steam came first, if orgin can first and you had to play valve games only on steam, everyone would hate steam. People hate orgin becuase 99 percent of pc gamers already buy a majority of games on steam or forced to becuase of steamworks games, and now orgin requires them to buy EA games on a second client

can someone explain this to me? Steam everyone hold as the saviour of pc games to many people but then why does everyone go onto hate Origin? is it just a them and us kind of thing?jhon9728

I do not consider steam the "saviour" of pc gaming, nor do I hate Origin. I don't like Origin because of it's past history, severe lack of features and the fact it is totally unnecessary.

To me from what I read it's just band wagon, hating that people jump on for no rational reason.jhon9728

No it is not a "band wagon" and there are plenty of "rational" reasons to hate Origin.

I for one get speeds i had no idea I could reach, and never could hope to get on steam.jhon9728

You get great speeds on Origin because hardly anyone is using the service. Steam at the last count has nearly 5 times the numbers using their service so naturally it is more popular and at times speeds will be slower on Steam. I would hazard a guess that if Origin had nearly 50 million people routinely using it you would have slow speeds with Origin.

My internet went out in the area for a couple of days and Steam dosen't let me play and Origin does...jhon9728

That's funny because my internet goes down regularly and I never have a problem with running my games from steam. However my mate who does have Origin can't even play Mass Effect 3 on Origin without it complaining it "cannot authenticate the DLC.

So WHAT is it that is so bad, i know EA is 'evil' because it's about making money (because steam isn't...?), people will probably take this as a troll with all the hate, byt honestly i don't see it so please post actual reasons for why origin is bad and competitors like steam are not... and not just 'because it sucks and they made mass effect 3 bad hurr durr...'jhon9728

It would've helped if you had posted in a "non-troll" like fashion, perhaps left out crap like "herp derp you hate EA cos they make money". But I will try to explain to you why I refuse to use Origin. It has nothing to do with EA making money, I want companies to make money. The more money a company makes the more they can invest in their games. However I want a company to do that in a way that does not nickel and dime me to death. Now the main reason I do not use Origin is because I do not trust EA to behave in an appropriate manner with a digital distribution service. Their history with DD has been dodgy at best. When they first introduced a download service they tried to get you to pay for an "insurance" so you could re-download what you had paid for, this was dropped after many complaints.

When Origin was first introduced it was infested with spyware and came with an EULA that gave EA a lot of power. There was an outrage and EA dialed things back a bit. Then EA had a history of banning people for unrelated gaming situations (such as forum bans) this would lead people to lose access to ALL their games. There was mass outrage about it and it only took them a year to change things. Do you see a pattern here ?

A DD platform depends on trust, I trust Valve based on their history and practices and I trust GOG based on their history and practices. However looking at EA's history and practices I wouldn't trust them to urinate on me if I was on fire. So there you go that is why I refuse to use Origin.

Becuase Steam came first, if orgin can first and you had to play valve games only on steam, everyone would hate steam. People hate orgin becuase 99 percent of pc gamers already buy a majority of games on steam or forced to becuase of steamworks games, and now orgin requires them to buy EA games on a second client

James161324

Because of all the times i've tried to play BF3 and battlelog has been working fine, yet the game refuses to start because ORIGIN is down.

I love how whenever something on the internet is disliked by a larger number of people it's automatically everyone jumping on the hater bandwagon.Moriarity_

Simple minds like to find simple answers and, unfortunately, there are a lot of simpletons on the interwebz.

Just hypocritical Valve fanboys worried about competition to their precious Steam.C_Rule

Hmm.. I feel the majority of hate is ban wagon jumping from what I hear, and the rest isn't really valid or is an issue tht has been fixed.jhon9728

Then you are being closed minded and it seems no matter what reasons anyone gives for disliking steam will be met with you going "you are jumping on the band wagon".

Thanks for the input charmingcharlie but things like where you talk about download speeds are not try because . I was talking about how fast I downloads compared to everything not just steam 2. The download speeds for steam are sourced externally through chosen portals that are NOT even close to be used by 50 million, and also it shouldn't matter because if try do have more the company should have more money to spend on better download speeds. So again not really valid. jhon9728

Steam is at least 5 - 6 times more popular than Origin, it is going to have slower download speeds because more people use it than they use Origin. The fact you are arguing against this point is amazing. I can tell you now if Origin had a customer pool of 50 million you would be complaining about speeds on Origin too. In fact I would go as far as saying that if Origin had a customer base of 50 million the speeds would be even worse than Steam because EA have a history of NOT investing in servers but closing servers.

Along with things like being banned means losin access to paid games is the same with steam and the rest of the issues you mentioned have been fixed showing they will change... So still not really seeing a completely valid point but I can see where your comming fromjhon9728

Please give me just one example of steam ever banning an account because of a forum post. Steam only suspends accounts when something "untowards" is happening with that account, be it an unauthorised charge back or something dodgy during purchasing a game. You could go on Steams forum and post "Gabe fornicates with Elephants" and the worst that will happen is you will lose your forum account and that is it. However up till a few months ago if you had posted "John Riccitiello shags sheep" on an EA board you would have lost your forum account and access to all your games.

Now you say that these issues being fixed show a "will to change" erm yeah after a MASSIVE uproar and campaign. They changed these things because they had no choice. They didn't change these things because they realised they were "bad ideas" they changed them because the customers rebelled and revoted and shouted and complained as much as they could.

Let me put it another way, if you have two mates one of them is always paying his way, he always buys his fair share of beers and he is fun to be round. The other mate is a pain in the arse, never pays his way, takes liberty's with your time and money and is constantly punching you in the face and apologising and saying "it won't happen again". Now which one of those would you want to hang around with the most ? and which do you think is Steam and which is EA ?

Because blocking used game sales, and shoving useless DRM while being valve is the BESTEST THING EVA

Whereasblocking used game sales, and shoving useless DRM while being ea is evil corporate greed

The internet in general is full of dumb fvcking hypocrites whose posts don't mean jack

Because blocking used game sales, and shoving useless DRM while being valve is the BESTEST THING EVA

Whereasblocking used game sales, and shoving useless DRM while being ea is evil corporate greed

The internet in general is full of dumb fvcking hypocrites whose posts don't mean jack

Syk0_k03r

I hate to sound like a broken record, but some of us do have very legitimate reasons to hate Origin. It's kind of sad to see people so dismissive of people's legitimate complaints.

For example, here in Australia, it is pretty much the worst development in the history of digitally-distributed videogames.
Games on Origin are:
- Regionally-priced, meaning that some games that came out last year are still $80-90 AUD here (often long after they got cheaper on Steam/GMG/Gamersgate)
- Regionally-released, meaning that if we wanted to buy The Old Republic digitally, we had to wait -months- before it was released here (unlike any other DD site I can think of)
- Region-restricted, at least in the sense that EA refuses to let GMG, Gamersgate and other stores sell Origin games to Australian customers (or they're full price, unlike Steam games)

Worse still, their sales are region-specific. You know how there's currently a decent sale on 18 Origin games in the UK? Origin doesn't have a single game on sale in Australia. Even when their sales do carry over here, they're always limited to a couple of crap titles, and 50% off never means much when the games were already $80 to begin with. Also, their promotional bonuses seem to be region-specific too, like the Battlefield 3 early start thing, which only seemed to apply to US customers.

Basically, it's just a huge mess - a shining example of everything that could go wrong with a digital distribution store. It wouldn't be a problem if, like Steam, we could just buy Origin keys somewhere else for a cheaper price, but that isn't an opion with EA's strangehold over their titles.

So...yeah, I'm puzzled by thread titles like 'why do people hate Origin?', because I'm still trying to work out what anyone outside of the US could possibly like about this horrendous service.

Digital distribution was supposed to be a huge step forward towards the breaking down of the ridiculous borders that plague the industry, and in many ways it has succeeded there (with some remaining issues, like the ocassional Steam pricing quirk from the biggest publishers). Origin, in comparison to every other online store, is simply a massive leap backwards in every regards.
For pretty much the first time since Steam launched, it's consistently cheaper to just buy EA games at Australian retailers. Sad times indeed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(content_delivery)#Criticism

because it filled with evil

and it has fake deals.

I don't know, it already has one great feature that steam doesn't have, being able to activate games on Origin regardless of where the key came from.

pretty simple, steam is valve and origin is EA

Steam does everything origin does, but better. And then there's a lot steam does that origin doesn't do.

Origin isn't bad by any means , the biggest reason I like steam better is the sales and also the sense of community steam has, origins interface is also so barebones it looks like it was made for consoles GamingVengeance

People seem to forget that Steam was really bad when it first came onto the Net.

Personally, I haven't had any problems with Origin, even BioWare jumped onto the scene really fast when some people experienced problems with ME3 on Origin.

[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"]Origin isn't bad by any means , the biggest reason I like steam better is the sales and also the sense of community steam has, origins interface is also so barebones it looks like it was made for consoles topsemag55

People seem to forget that Steam was really bad when it first came onto the Net.

Personally, I haven't had any problems with Origin, even BioWare jumped onto the scene really fast when some people experienced problems with ME3 on Origin.

Don't hate them, but MAN are they hypocritical right now.tagyhag

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Don't hate them, but MAN are they hypocritical right now.trastamad03

Steam does everything origin does, but better. And then there's a lot steam does that origin doesn't do.

wis3boi

pretty simple, steam is valve and origin is EA

Tuzolord

I don't hate it, but I never use it simply because I feel EA is not credible.

Steam was still terribad till one or two years ago, when they finally changed the client, not just when it launched.DanielDust

Thanks, I didn't know that. I just started using Steam a few months ago, basically because a couple of games I wanted were Steam-only.

I don't mind having extra accounts myself, as some are far better than Steam (like GoG). GoG was the only place I would buy TW2.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"] Steam was still terribad till one or two years ago, when they finally changed the client, not just when it launched.topsemag55

Thanks, I didn't know that. I just started using Steam a few months ago, basically because a couple of games I wanted were Steam-only.

I don't mind having extra accounts myself, as some are far better than Steam (like GoG). GoG was the only place I would buy TW2.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="DanielDust"] Steam was still terribad till one or two years ago, when they finally changed the client, not just when it launched.KHAndAnime

Thanks, I didn't know that. I just started using Steam a few months ago, basically because a couple of games I wanted were Steam-only.

I don't mind having extra accounts myself, as some are far better than Steam (like GoG). GoG was the only place I would buy TW2.

What if I just don't like EA as a company? That's enough reason to not like their anemic DD service, isn't it?jer_1

Of course, but 'round these 'ere parts, people don't take kindly to you hatin' on their bro companies :P

I mean really guys competition > only one program (it's not that much of a hassle to use more than one)jhon9728

I totally agree competition is good which makes me wonder why you are trying to cheerlead Origin ? Firstly as others have said regional pricing is decided by the publishers and Steam gets told the price they are to sell games at. It isn't Steams fault that Australians pay more it is publishers like ..... oh I don't know EA that tell Valve to sell at an inflated price to Australian customers.

Secondly EA are one of the least competitive companies on the planet. This is a company that wants to force PC gamers to pay MORE for games. This is a company that is totally behind forcing PC gamers to pay the same price as console gamers for their games (despite the fact there is no console royalty fee on the PC). This is a company that releases day 1 DLC at $10. Now Valve on the other hand have resisted charging console prices for their PC games, Valve even gave the PC version of their game away to PS3 users. Valve produces free DLC for it's products and encourages modding of it's products as much as possible.