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It still has several driver issues. Also when I run vista my Host Process stops working and rarely my toolbar changes into a windows 95 toolbar. It is a hassle to work on when these glitches happen.exezlaborI never heard about the tool bar thing thats really strange
I don't hate Windows Vista. I just find that Windows XP is better for what I like to do, play games. And the new features and things it has over XP don't phase me one bit. I'll just wait for Windows 7... TheDawnofFlamesI dont get why Windows 7 is so much more different from vista, I havent tried the beta but from what I saw they look about the same.
Its seems that it is on more or less the same structure but it is more refined and has more features.exezlaborif its more or less the same what makes it so much better? because I want to upgrade from XP but I want to make sure my money is well spent.
[QUOTE="exezlabor"]It still has several driver issues. Also when I run vista my Host Process stops working and rarely my toolbar changes into a windows 95 toolbar. It is a hassle to work on when these glitches happen.sparkypantsI never heard about the tool bar thing thats really strange
I don't hate Windows Vista. I just find that Windows XP is better for what I like to do, play games. And the new features and things it has over XP don't phase me one bit. I'll just wait for Windows 7... TheDawnofFlamesI dont get why Windows 7 is so much more different from vista, I havent tried the beta but from what I saw they look about the same. To tell you the truth, I'll be sticking with Windows XP as long as I can, it just seems that Windows 7 is going to be the definite successor to XP (Not Vista). Basically the day when new software and games cease to be compatible with Windows XP, is when you will see me using Windows 7.
[QUOTE="exezlabor"]Its seems that it is on more or less the same structure but it is more refined and has more features.sparkypantsif its more or less the same what makes it so much better? because I want to upgrade from XP but I want to make sure my money is well spent. Well, from what I've read from people that have used Windows 7, they say that it looks like Vista, but it runs like XP
On the family PC with 1GB it runs fine, though it is vlited and tweaked.If you're system can handle it it's awesome! But if you have less than 2gigs of ram don't bother and thats basicly where all the hate stems from.
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[QUOTE="exezlabor"]From a gaming standpoint it will have DX10.C_RuleDX10 on XP is easy done. ;)I want to add on that in every single game that supported DirectX10 that I have tried (Lost Planet, Gears of War, Bioshock, Crysis, and Hellgate), I always preferred DX9, because it generally performed better and didn't really look worse. I guess DirectX10 seems rather useless for some people.
I personally really like my Vista 32-bit. It starts real fast and is much prettier than XP. DirectX 10 is cool too. On Crysis I definitely notice a difference, mostly with explosions, the particle count is much higher with DX10. I like the customization options with Vista too. You can say what you want, but I like it and am glad I have it.
I have 4gigs of ram and a 1Gb Radeon 4870, in case you are wondering for this post.
Depends, I like XP more because Vista limits me, depending on some applications. Ive gotten a blue screen on Vista like 20 times since I built my current computer all was software problems. Also had these problems with my HP, so I switched to a ripped apart version of Windows XP. hooded1manTry as re-install and them BSOD's will go away,,,if they dont its happening because your using some dodgey software.
Iv played around with Vista today, I mean I tried it before but today I actually got to play around with everything. I really love the way it looks and feels(very stylish lol) I have to say I really like it, I dont see why its so hated, can someone explain?sparkypants
Slow to boot up compared with other operating systems. It's a massive resource hog and it's generally slow than other OS with applications and games on a whole. I would add network connectivity problems to that list which I plagued with on a daily basis.
[QUOTE="exezlabor"]Its seems that it is on more or less the same structure but it is more refined and has more features.sparkypantsif its more or less the same what makes it so much better? because I want to upgrade from XP but I want to make sure my money is well spent.Because even the beta of 7 runs at near-XP performance on a system with 1GB of RAM (namely, Asus Eee).
Hate's a strong word. For most XP users, the changes just don't justify the cost.jimmyjammer69And the positives that Vista may have don't justify the performance penalty it does have on what I'd actually want to run.
I have had vista since it was released, the retail copy. The OEM one is tied to your mobo rofl :roll:Retail purchased OEM copy's are not tied to the motherboard. I have Vista Premium 64 OEM and have switched my motherboard already. Same with XP OEM, it can be installed on as many PC's as you llike, as long as it is only on one at any given time.
I think its a good OS, definately grown on it since i have had it all this time.. Look at windows 7, its basically Vista with a few addons and everybody is praising it.. kinda funny.perfect_chao
I have been running Vista for well over a year now, and can honestly say I have had little to no problems out of it. I remember more problems back when I ran XP actually, but I expect it was due to the Nforce motherboard more than XP.
Retail purchased OEM copy's are not tied to the motherboard. I have Vista Premium 64 OEM and have switched my motherboard already. Same with XP OEM, it can be installed on as many PC's as you llike, as long as it is only on one at any given time.
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I agree. I've changed motherboard with my XP OEM on my old pentium system.
If you want a better look OS and fancy new features which are fun and useful, then why does that not justify going from 2gb ram to 4gb ram which is so cheap right now and has been for a while...
People with pentium 4's and really slow other stuff shouldnt complain about vista, just upgrade its obviously TIME to upgrade if theres such a slow down, and its been proven btw far cry 2 runs better in dx10 :)
ive beta tested win 7 64-bit checked task manager under performance and it said 1gb in use, hmm so does my vista 64-bit and can honestly say for AT THIS MOMENT i see no reason to change to it.
Ive own vista since release, its been great. also since getting 4gb ram n going 64-bit its wicked cool.
Ive never hated vista in any way.. I also find it funny how on vista you can download and install the transparent win 7 theme, use the quicklaunch for programs, rocket dock for fancy UI, and when all windows are maximized its still transparent..
if ya cant handle upgrading a bit then go run windows 98
[QUOTE="hooded1man"]Depends, I like XP more because Vista limits me, depending on some applications. Ive gotten a blue screen on Vista like 20 times since I built my current computer all was software problems. Also had these problems with my HP, so I switched to a ripped apart version of Windows XP. Daytona_178Try as re-install and them BSOD's will go away,,,if they dont its happening because your using some dodgey software. I know exactly what was giving me the BSOD's, its the fact that I couldnt use what I wanted that drew me towards XP again.
They pay too much attention to those Mac commercials, if I had to choose between Vista or Xp -- I wouldn't even hesitate in picking Vista.Stevo_the_gamerProviding you had a decent system ;)
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]They pay too much attention to those Mac commercials, if I had to choose between Vista or Xp -- I wouldn't even hesitate in picking Vista.Daytona_178Providing you had a decent system ;)So long as I'm not running 512MB of ram with a Pentium 4, I wouldn't mind. :P
So long as I'm not running 512MB of ram with a Pentium 4, I wouldn't mind. :P
who runs that kinda hardware now? schools?
when vista came out i had a pentium D 3ghz and 2gb ram, and i think ati x1900 xt 512mb, it ran kinda slow, but after a while and a couple of updates i liked it more and more, it also got faster and faster, recently gone to 64-bit and im dead set vista owns :)
side note: still think windows 7 should just be a vista 2.0 (meaning advertise a big new version called vista 2.0 the awesomeness idk lol and have it just as a huge patch), a sp2 or 3 and not some whole apparently new os..
People with pentium 4's and really slow other stuff shouldnt complain about vista, just upgrade its obviously TIME to upgrade if theres such a slow down.jamesfffan
I've got a pentium4 and a Q6600 I can complain about performance on the Q6600 with Vista as much as I want. What shall I upgrade to?
The Pentium4 on XP beats the Q6600 on Vista booting up.
I'm first to buy Windows7 for both systems if it does offer better performance than both. I here it boots faster than both. I'm for that .
XP was awful imo, it was so unstable, Vista seems more stable but man, I tried the 64 bit version today, holy crap it was awful, crashed so damn much I took it off and went back to 32 bit immediatly, maybe it was just a bad install idk, but I wont be using it again for a lonnnngggg time.V4LENT1NEHopefully you did a clean install of 64-bit software and not a "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit.
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