Why do some say Morrowind is better than Oblivion, besides the graphics?

Just wondering. I think Oblivion is the superior game, but some say that Morrowind feels more inspired and alive, making it a better game.

I'm just wondering how everyone else feels about this? Is Morrowind the better game even though Oblivion is obviously bigger and has better graphics?

Your thoughts.

I like Oblivion it's shinny and new.

I'm not saying that older games are bad some of the best games I have are on the NES

*Hugs NES* my first console

Morrowind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oblivion

Oblivion isn't even in the same league as Morrowind. A game is so much more than graphics and Oblivion proves that.

Oblivion would have been the best game ever created by human kind if only they changed a couple of things.

I cant see my enemies health bar nor the damage I cause to them. So even if I do get higher lvl I basicly dont get stronger since the world scales with your lvl. So then what the **** is the point of ''level'' ???

Also there are no unique classes... a thief can wear plate/steel and fight with shield and axes. While warrior classes can wear leather and stealth around picklocking doors. What the **** is the point of ''class''???

Bethesda would have done a great job if only they didnt **** up with world scaling.

well, i myself also feel that oblivion is truly the superior game here, morrowind does have more variety in weapons, and armour, and overall has alot more features than oblivion, but i think oblivion was a far superior story, compared to morrowind, which had a very difficult way for you to actually do quests becasue of the poor direction they gave you. but oblivion has full voice overs, tho it did have a few problems, i know, it was much better than reading the screen full of text that morrowind throws in front of you. and the armour in oblivion i thought looked alot better, mainly becasue of the far superior graphics but it seemed like they took alot more time on designing the armour with in the game. and that does bring me to the fact that morrowind is pretty much an eyesore for most people, after playing oblivion, and i know some people like to think that running all the different texture packs and stuff on morrowind will make it look as good as oblivion, well it doesnt , Morrowind will never compare to oblivion visuals. overall i do believe oblivion is the better game, and i think the people who say they like morrowind better are just sad they are letting it go.

oh ya and i forgot about that combat system in Morrowind like seriously it was horrible, it went something like this slash slash slash slash, stab, stab, thrust. Oblivion had actually a pretty good combat system for a kinda fps role playing game.

Morrowind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oblivion

Oblivion isn't even in the same league as Morrowind. A game is so much more than graphics and Oblivion proves that.

D9-THC

These two reviews are probably the best way to describe it. I agree with most of their points. While i found Oblivion to be fun, they werent for the same reasons i found Morrowind fun.

http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=129

http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=142

Depends on what your priorities are.

Morrowind = Better for roleplaying.

Oblivion = Better for stabbing.

Both are completely different game for me.

Morrowind: Very complex, You really can do anything. Kill any character, Make your character a god, Kill gods, anything. However, much of it is completely broken. Combat, Magic, Training system, the works. It can really damper the expirence.

Oblivion: Feels more like an action game. They nailed stealth, combat, and magic. Fixed many issues but dumbed it down in the process. We now have Blade and Blunt. What happened to Spear, axe, short sword etc. Voice acting is a mixed blessing. You really can't kill anything anymore or make your character 1000 times better then everyone else (maybe if you tweak the difficulty.

However, both are amazing games. I enjoy playing Oblivion more even if MW is more complex.

My friends and I have fought over this on countless occasions, and i firmly believe Morrowind is a better game considering the sheer size of the world.. Instantaneous travel to cities abroad in Oblivion just kills the real sense of adventure i experienced from Morrowind since there was such a massive land mass to trend without the effortless quick travel Oblivion features. Projekt_Enigma

I really don't understand why people bring up fast travel as a weakness...Don't use it.There problem solved..it's an EXTRA for those who wish to use it.IF you are so weak and pathetic that you can't keep yourself from doing it then get a mod that takes it off....which i don't even understand the logic of the person who makes one considering that if a person is too weak to ignore the use of fast travel what makes you think they'll go download a mod to stop it...

[QUOTE="Projekt_Enigma"]My friends and I have fought over this on countless occasions, and i firmly believe Morrowind is a better game considering the sheer size of the world.. Instantaneous travel to cities abroad in Oblivion just kills the real sense of adventure i experienced from Morrowind since there was such a massive land mass to trend without the effortless quick travel Oblivion features. f617682657

I really don't understand why people bring up fast travel as a weakness...Don't use it.There problem solved..it's an EXTRA for those who wish to use it.IF you are so weak and pathetic that you can't keep yourself from doing it then get a mod that takes it off....which i don't even understand the logic of the person who makes one considering that if a person is too weak to ignore the use of fast travel what makes you think they'll go download a mod to stop it...

It is a weakness though. Not the actual feature - that i dont care about - its how the developers worked the map around with it. The continent Oblivion takes place in, while larger, is much more plain. Very little in the way of unique/interesting terrain. Morrowind, on ther other hand, since it relied so much on foot travelling, the developers focused much more on making the terrain much more unique to prevent the game from being so monotonous.

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[QUOTE="Projekt_Enigma"]My friends and I have fought over this on countless occasions, and i firmly believe Morrowind is a better game considering the sheer size of the world.. Instantaneous travel to cities abroad in Oblivion just kills the real sense of adventure i experienced from Morrowind since there was such a massive land mass to trend without the effortless quick travel Oblivion features. XaosII

I really don't understand why people bring up fast travel as a weakness...Don't use it.There problem solved..it's an EXTRA for those who wish to use it.IF you are so weak and pathetic that you can't keep yourself from doing it then get a mod that takes it off....which i don't even understand the logic of the person who makes one considering that if a person is too weak to ignore the use of fast travel what makes you think they'll go download a mod to stop it...

It is a weakness though. Not the actual feature - that i dont care about - its how the developers worked the map around with it. The continent Oblivion takes place in, while larger, is much more plain. Very little in the way of unique/interesting terrain. Morrowind, on ther other hand, since it relied so much on foot travelling, the developers focused much more on making the terrain much more unique to prevent the game from being so monotonous.

I was specifically meaning the feature. I can however see how you can come to the conclusion that it affected how they made the game. It's a good question to ask them although a straight answer would be unlikely UNLESS they make the next ES more varied because they will be willing to admit mistakes. Sort of like Halo.

Just wondering. I think Oblivion is the superior game, but some say that Morrowind feels more inspired and alive, making it a better game.

I'm just wondering how everyone else feels about this? Is Morrowind the better game even though Oblivion is obviously bigger and has better graphics?

Your thoughts.

ASK_Story

Oblivions RPG character devolpment isbroken.. To even call it a RPG is in its basest form.. Leveling is useless in the game, you can beat the game at level 2.. Its a bad game unmodded for any rpg player.

Morrowind had better atmosphere. It had variety in cultures and locales. It had a stronger main plot. It had a better magic system. It had better characters and quests. It had better expansions. A better arch-villain.

Basically , everything but the melee combat and graphics were better in Morrowind.

It's more of taste.

Morrowind is an RPG FPS game.

Oblivion is an FPS RPG game.

If you like the action more, Oblivion is your game. It's more immediate, and the combat is very much for the action based gamer. Morrowind is like a big book of D+D, where you really are in the role of the character, (eg "role" playing), combat is very much subdued and RPG-ish. It's more of your taste.

Morrowind had better atmosphere. It had variety in cultures and locales. It had a stronger main plot. It had a better magic system. It had better characters and quests. It had better expansions. A better arch-villain.

Basically , everything but the melee combat and graphics were better in Morrowind.

TheCrazed420

Normally I would go on some kind of tirade about how disappointing Oblivion was, but I think I'll just quote this post instead, since it pretty much sums things up. Although it doesn't mention the completely broken level scaling gameplay mechanic.

In my opinion, the more a game demands from you, the more it gives back in return. Morrowind is harder to ge into, but it gives a more rewarding play experience. Oblivion is just too streamlined, xboxified and so on. It doesn't really suit a game that means for you to live in a world, to hold your hand like thatkyrieee

So you thing harder = better game??? Well if thats just your preference thats fine, but the IS NOT a fact by any means!