why I don't like steam

went on to check prices for saints row 3

$89.95 aus.

I can get a hard copy for cheaper than that

the day game producers go digital only is the day I stop buying their games

Then your days as a gamer are numbered. Enjoy it while you can I guess.

went on to check prices for saints row 3

$89.95 aus.

I can get a hard copy for cheaper than that

the day game producers go digital only is the day I stop buying their games

Deano

ya well I expected some steam fanboys to reply.

on what level is charging MORE for a digital product that cuts out things like packaging and distribution costs in any way an ethical business model

it's theft, and they can't be suprised when people will resort to not paying for products.

Well, buy a hard copy. It's a Steamworks game.

I'm not a steam fanboy...just stating the obvious. The industry is clearly moving digital...if that makes you quit gaming then that's your choice but it's happening. What is it you want us to say? Get all emo and vow to quit gaming if it goes digital with you? Hell no! Granted I live in the US but gaming has never been cheaper and more convenient since...ever.

*edit*

Oh, and I use gamersgate more often than Steam these days. Their blue coin system is really cool and they have very competative prices. I also use greenmangaming a lot for steamworks games as very often they are cheaper then steam.

Go buy a russian copy of the games :P

stopped reading at "AUS"

Buy a hard copy then...we know you have stupid prices down there, dont cry to steam about that

Well, buy a hard copy. It's a Steamworks game.

Baranga

Is Steam to blame for this or the Australian government?MythPro1

[QUOTE="MythPro1"]Is Steam to blame for this or the Australian government?illmatic87

Go buy a russian copy of the games :P

Bikouchu35

went on to check prices for saints row 3

$89.95 aus.

I can get a hard copy for cheaper than that

the day game producers go digital only is the day I stop buying their games

Why haven't you fell off the planet? You must have magnetic shoes.

Also Steam,Origin etc are great!

(Ok mabey not origin)

The reason we are not as outraged as you is because we don't live in Australia.

Just get an american friend to buy it for you.

I have my european buddies coming to me all the time to buy them stuff. They pass me the money via paypal, I gift them the game. They save money and get the uncensored versions (they are germans, they have the crappy censored versions).

ya well I expected some steam fanboys to reply.

on what level is charging MORE for a digital product that cuts out things like packaging and distribution costs in any way an ethical business model

it's theft, and they can't be suprised when people will resort to not paying for products.

Deano

Um... It's not theft if you're willing to pay for it.

I don't buy big titles on steam or digitally in general unless they're discounted +40%

sorry you live in the wrong country when it comes to buying/gaming on steam bro. everyone knows games cost a crap load in australia

I'm not a steam fanboy...just stating the obvious. The industry is clearly moving digital...if that makes you quit gaming then that's your choice but it's happening. What is it you want us to say? Get all emo and vow to quit gaming if it goes digital with you? Hell no! Granted I live in the US but gaming has never been cheaper and more convenient since...ever.

*edit*

Oh, and I use gamersgate more often than Steam these days. Their blue coin system is really cool and they have very competative prices. I also use greenmangaming a lot for steamworks games as very often they are cheaper then steam.

Renevent42

I find the tone of your post to be rather abrasive. Digital has its own set of problems and challenges to overcome before it can honestly replace retail completely. Bandwidth costs money in most countries. The publishers are passing on the costs of packaging retail copies in the form of bandwidth cost to the internet service providers, who then pass those costs off to the consumer. If one's internet speed is slow, it might be faster to drive to one's local store, buy the retail game, and install off the DVD than to buy digital. Internet providers need to be cheaper, faster, and more reliable to make a full move to digital. There is no reason to believe that is necessarily going to happen in our lifetimes.

Then your days as a gamer are numbered. Enjoy it while you can I guess.

Renevent42

went on to check prices for saints row 3

$89.95 aus.

I can get a hard copy for cheaper than that

the day game producers go digital only is the day I stop buying their games

Deano

went on to check prices for saints row 3

$89.95 aus.

I can get a hard copy for cheaper than that

the day game producers go digital only is the day I stop buying their games

Deano

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

I'm not a steam fanboy...just stating the obvious. The industry is clearly moving digital...if that makes you quit gaming then that's your choice but it's happening. What is it you want us to say? Get all emo and vow to quit gaming if it goes digital with you? Hell no! Granted I live in the US but gaming has never been cheaper and more convenient since...ever.

*edit*

Oh, and I use gamersgate more often than Steam these days. Their blue coin system is really cool and they have very competative prices. I also use greenmangaming a lot for steamworks games as very often they are cheaper then steam.

Falconoffury

I find the tone of your post to be rather abrasive. Digital has its own set of problems and challenges to overcome before it can honestly replace retail completely. Bandwidth costs money in most countries. The publishers are passing on the costs of packaging retail copies in the form of bandwidth cost to the internet service providers, who then pass those costs off to the consumer. If one's internet speed is slow, it might be faster to drive to one's local store, buy the retail game, and install off the DVD than to buy digital. Internet providers need to be cheaper, faster, and more reliable to make a full move to digital. There is no reason to believe that is necessarily going to happen in our lifetimes.

If you found my tone abrasive, what do you have to say about the OP and his fanboy comments? You get the responses you deserve.

Anyways internet penetration is growing every day, speed increasing, ect...the issues are not as big as retail's issue...the most important factor to a business too...cost to distribute. The industry is moving digital that much is clear. Does that mean at some point everyone just stops making retail boxes? No probably not, but when 90% of game companies stop producing them and the ones that do are pretty much just $150 CE's that's really the end of retail for all intents and purposes.

"There is no reason to believe that is necessarily going to happen in our lifetimes."

You should go look at some statistics regarding internet penetration...forget a life time...look at the last 10 years alone.

went on to check prices for saints row 3

$89.95 aus.

I can get a hard copy for cheaper than that

the day game producers go digital only is the day I stop buying their games

Deano

And that's exactly why they cost that much on steam, so you go and buy the hard copy and retailers don't complain to THQ.

Also for the record Steam is just a platform, they don't control pricing of other companies products. Valve on the other hand offers very fair prices on Steam for us Aussies... so don't hate on them too much.

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Go buy a russian copy of the games :P

Silicel1

Publishers set the price and for them it's easier to put 50$ and then just say 50£ or 50 Euro etc. In those cases then it is better to go to the retail, or wait for a sale.