Why I'm quitting PC gaming.

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#1 1nverted
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At the time of this post my current PC is:

Intel Q6600 Quad Core 2.6ghz

Gigabyte N680SLI-DQ6 6Quad Motherboard

4GB PC-6400 800MHZ Giel Dual Channel Ram

AMD/Radeon 2900XT 1GB

Creative X-Fi Fatality Soundcard.

Now all up, this PC is probably worth roughly $2500AUD

I also own an Xbox 360 including 10 games and a 40GB PS3 with 4 games. Firstly, don't think I am some spoiled rich kid, I am a 20 year old who has been working since I legally could (14 and 9months) and got accepted straight away into a Digital Arts apprentice ship pretty much as soon as I could finish school, sure I have living/food and car expenses however outside of necsesities (ultra spelling mistake), I can pretty much devote my salary to gaming.

Ok, my life stories out of the way.

Anyway, with Crysis's arrival bought a stark realisation that my PC has really no advantage whatsoever over my 2 consoles. Aside from the very few exclusive titles that appear for PC's nowaday (Crysis, The Witcher urgh Warhammer Online I guess and Spore when it's released) theres no games out there that you really need a $2000 or $3000 PC for, for a third of that price you can buy one of the current gen consoles and get an identical experience. You could say that you basically need to buy a super computer to match a console that costs far less.

The next "Crysis" is still a long way off and even when it comes the current tech is going to run it like a dog, thats basically the future of PC gaming. It's never going to be at a point where the affordable tech will justify it's price. It's a never ending cycle of spending insane amounts of cash for the tiniest increases of visual fidelity.

I am not some sort of console fanboy, in fact I had hoped to keep my PC on par with my consoles so that I could have the best of 3 worlds, however with all the great games coming out exclusively for these consoles, I simply cannot see the point of paying the money to upgrade when in reality PC gamers will be shafted with some horrible port.

So I say farewell to this community, it's been a great ride however my eyes are now open. Best of luck to those who continue on rocking hard as a PC gamer, bye!

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#2 madrocketeer  Online
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Hmm, doesn't this belong in a blog or something? Anyway, okay, goodbye then.
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#3 XaosII
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Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?
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#4 nutcrackr
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why do you need to make a thread about you leaving, why can't you just leave? If you truly are leaving then responding to this thread is pointless in itself.

I also just checked your post history, and you have only a handful of posts in the PC games forum?

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#5 commander55
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It's a shame to see such a great pc go to waste. All you could possibly do now is surf the internet, use microsoft word and watch dvd's brrrrrrrrr... i shudder to think of the wasted possibilities. Your graphics card is probably crying in unreal state of limited existence!
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#6 ElArab
Member since 2007 • 5754 Posts

Who cares about exclusives? Do you need exclusives to justify your price tags? Actually, go ahead and leave, but...can I have your proccessor?

Oh and since you said this:

for, for a third of that price you can buy one of the current gen consoles and get an identical experience. I'm very glad your leaving, but please, don't spread those myths around.

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#7 DaGamingGod
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Did you expect your 2900XT to run Crysis maxed out and get great fps? Seems as if you expected a little too much out of your aging card my friend. I'm sure you can run any other game maxed out just fine though.
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#8 1nverted
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Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?XaosII

Thats true, but it's a one off payment for the console, I don't continuosly need to upgrade it as more advanced games come out.

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#9 1nverted
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Did you expect your 2900XT to run Crysis maxed out and get great fps? Seems as if you expected a little too much out of your aging card my friend. I'm sure you can run any other game maxed out just fine though.DaGamingGod

I didn't expect it to be able to max the game, howeve the performance of the game certainly does not justify the price of the hardware that I bought with hopes that Crysis might actually run decently (Which it doesn't).

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#10 DaGamingGod
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?1nverted

Thats true, but it's a one off payment for the console, I don't continuosly need to upgrade it as more advanced games come out.

I'm sure you knew about constantly needing to upgrade years ago. Why does it bug you now? Low on funds?
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#11 DJGOON
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I guess your not into PC gaming for the reasons a lot of us are. Consoles are pitifull in the RTS, Simulation genre.

In the FPS genre they have caught up but only to the point where they get a lot of titles the PC is getting. Add to that the PC gets a few things the consoles don't and throw in the fact online mode is free and the mouse/keyboard is superior then there is nothing regarding FPS genre a console can offer me.

Also getting the best rig possible is never a good idea, the depreciation is too great. Instead just a high end rig that will cost half of what you paid but last 3/4 as long as your top end rig seems the best value.

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#13 1nverted
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[QUOTE="1nverted"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?DaGamingGod

Thats true, but it's a one off payment for the console, I don't continuosly need to upgrade it as more advanced games come out.

I'm sure you knew about constantly needing to upgrade years ago. Why does it bug you now? Low on funds?

Well I custom built this computer in 2003 and it's been slowly upgrading into what it is today, however the technology required for a PC to be able to match the visual quality of a much cheaper console is becoming far to expensive. Games are advancing a lot faster than the technology required to run them.

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#14 biggest_loser
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$2000-3000? I spent $1530 on mine and I can play every game (except Double Agent lol) maxed out.

Sorry daddy big bucks I don't where you buy your hardware from! And if I should need to upgrade a component in the next 3 years or so then I may just have to buy a new video card or RAM which would be like $300-400 - cheaper than a console, like Mr. PS3 (close to a grand on release? $au).

Normally I would be getting the lassoo, the chair and the rope to ensure we can smack some royal sense into you madame but I feel that you may just have to go, learn your lesson and then return like the prodigal son! (ala Craig Wing returning to South Sydney).

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#15 1nverted
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$2000-3000? I spent $1530 on mine and I can play every game (except Double Agent lol) maxed out.

Sorry daddy big bucks I don't where you buy your hardware from! And if I should need to upgrade a component in the next 3 years or so then I may just have to buy a new video card or RAM which would be like $300-400 - cheaper than a console, like Mr. PS3 (close to a grand on release? $au).

Normally I would be getting the lassoo, the chair and the rope to ensure we can smack some royal sense into you madame but I feel that you may just have to go, learn your lesson and then return like the prodigal son! (ala Craig Wing returning to South Sydney).

biggest_loser

Well I made sure that I bought top quality brands as they are far better built and are a lot more stable when overclocking.

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#16 GodLovesDead
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You were into PC Gaming for the wrong reason. Graphics is only one of the reasons why PCs are superior to consoles, but it should never be your sole reason.
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#17 DaGamingGod
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[QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="1nverted"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?1nverted

Thats true, but it's a one off payment for the console, I don't continuosly need to upgrade it as more advanced games come out.

I'm sure you knew about constantly needing to upgrade years ago. Why does it bug you now? Low on funds?

Well I custom built this computer in 2003 and it's been slowly upgrading into what it is today, however the technology required for a PC to be able to match the visual quality of a much cheaper console is becoming far to expensive. Games are advancing a lot faster than the technology required to run them.

Why not just wait a month when the prices of the 8800 series cards fall between 150-250 dollars? You'll then be able to run Crysis and Far Cry 2 very nicely and get far better visuals than what your Xbox 360 can output. I'm sure you can sell off your 2900XT for 100+ dollars and pay the difference for a new card.
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#18 1nverted
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I guess your not into PC gaming for the reasons a lot of us are. Consoles are pitifull in the RTS, Simulation genre.

In the FPS genre they have caught up but only to the point where they get a lot of titles the PC is getting. Add to that the PC gets a few things the consoles don't and throw in the fact online mode is free and the mouse/keyboard is superior then there is nothing regarding FPS genre a console can offer me.

Also getting the best rig possible is never a good idea, the depreciation is too great. Instead just a high end rig that will cost half of what you paid but last 3/4 as long as your top end rig seems the best value.

DJGOON

Don't get me wrong, I have a love for RTS gaming and I have a huge collection of RTS games that I could easliy find myself playing 2-3 years from now as my current PC has no trouble running them. Also, I didn't just go out and buy all the top parts on the market, a lot of whats in my PC now came together over a 7-8month period during last year.

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#19 1nverted
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[QUOTE="1nverted"][QUOTE="DaGamingGod"][QUOTE="1nverted"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?DaGamingGod

Thats true, but it's a one off payment for the console, I don't continuosly need to upgrade it as more advanced games come out. PC's are so quickly to depreciate that it's not worth waisting the money trying to keep up when you can simply buy the game for a console and not have to worry about all the variables that determine whether your not you will play said game.

I'm sure you knew about constantly needing to upgrade years ago. Why does it bug you now? Low on funds?

Well I custom built this computer in 2003 and it's been slowly upgrading into what it is today, however the technology required for a PC to be able to match the visual quality of a much cheaper console is becoming far to expensive. Games are advancing a lot faster than the technology required to run them.

Why not just wait a month when the prices of the 8800 series cards fall between 150-250 dollars? You'll then be able to run Crysis and Far Cry 2 very nicely and get far better visuals than what your Xbox 360 can output. I'm sure you can sell off your 2900XT for 100+ dollars and pay the difference for a new card.

Thats where my qualms start though mate, I paid $550 for this card less than 6months ago and it's already outmatched by a card thats twice as cheap. It's simply not a finacially stable hobby if you wan't to constantly compete with the consoles.

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#20 DaGamingGod
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An 8800GT can be found for 199 or less these days. You can sell your 2900XT for 150 bucks and pay 50 bucks tops difference for the GT and get gfx like these, http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6125/crysisfacepj8.jpg

(That's running @ 1280x1024 with an 8800GT) Excuse the compression. Imageshack sucks.

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#21 DJGOON
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[QUOTE="DJGOON"]

I guess your not into PC gaming for the reasons a lot of us are. Consoles are pitifull in the RTS, Simulation genre.

In the FPS genre they have caught up but only to the point where they get a lot of titles the PC is getting. Add to that the PC gets a few things the consoles don't and throw in the fact online mode is free and the mouse/keyboard is superior then there is nothing regarding FPS genre a console can offer me.

Also getting the best rig possible is never a good idea, the depreciation is too great. Instead just a high end rig that will cost half of what you paid but last 3/4 as long as your top end rig seems the best value.

1nverted

Don't get me wrong, I have a love for RTS gaming and I have a huge collection of RTS games that I could easliy find myself playing 2-3 years from now as my current PC has no trouble running them. Also, I didn't just go out and buy all the top parts on the market, a lot of whats in my PC now came together over a 7-8month period during last year.

Well your quad core costs a lot and really doesn't enhance your system much (at the time of writing). My CPU is a 6400 which at the time was under half the cost of the quad and still holds up great. 4gigs of ram is not really needed (even if it is cheap now, 2 gigs serves me fine). 2900XT 1 gig - I admit I don't keep up with graphics cards since I got my 8800GTS but 1 gig sounds like an expensive model, was their not a 512mb version or something?

But anyway if you love RTS gaming won't u miss that on your PC? or do you mean you will still be playing PC games but just not keeping up with the very latest anymore?

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#22 wood_duck
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Ahahahahahahaha giving up Pc gaming, ha you nearly got me hahahahaha.................. wait your serious!

SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!

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#23 zeus_gb
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Bye!
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?1nverted

Thats true, but it's a one off payment for the console, I don't continuosly need to upgrade it as more advanced games come out.

but you pay twice the price for each game, which ISNT and identical experiance and you know it.

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#25 vfibsux
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Bye.
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#26 biggest_loser
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Who agrees with what I said!!!
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#27 1nverted
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[QUOTE="1nverted"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?Meu2k7

Thats true, but it's a one off payment for the console, I don't continuosly need to upgrade it as more advanced games come out.

but you pay twice the price for each game, which ISNT and identical experiance and you know it.

In Australia PS3/Xbox360/PC games are all the same price.

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#28 RK-Mara
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PC has a lot more exlusives than you think. They don't need a monster PC like Crysis does, but no one told you to get such an expensive rig. At the moment I'm playing Sam & Max, STALKER, Baldur's Gate Tutu and Mount & Blade. They are all exlusives and only STALKER requires a good PC.

And most multiplatforms are superior on PC. For example Oblivion is twice better with mods.

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#29 -CheeseEater-
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Hmmmm. I wonder. How much did that 360 + 10 games cost you?XaosII
Hmm...how much does a PC+10PC games cost again? (The Average price for a PC game in AU is around 60-80$)
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#30 -CheeseEater-
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Oh an fellow Aussie mate, try picking up the Orange Box, I can't begin to tell you how awsome Portal and TF2 are. Crysis is obviously a beast of a game, but titles such as Starcraft 2, Company of Heroes, World in Conflict, Bioshock and the lot are all far more spectacular on a PC than that of a Console.

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#31 1nverted
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Oh an fellow Aussie mate, try picking up the Orange Box, I can't begin to tell you how awsome Portal and TF2 are. Crysis is obviously a beast of a game, but titles such as Starcraft 2, Company of Heroes, World in Conflict, Bioshock and the lot are all far more spectacular on a PC than that of a Console.

-CheeseEater-

I actually got a free version of the "Black Box" with my video card, and yeah it's great. No doubt about that.

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#32 jasperrussell
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Who agrees with what I said!!!biggest_loser

About The Biggest Lover TV show... Sure I agree with you.

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#33 --Ryu--
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MODs really need to get on these personal threads and lock them. You have a blog for a reason, please use it.

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#34 jasperrussell
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When people post topics like this, you're basically saying, "I don't like doing what your all doing", not many people will sympathise.

Your qualms about constantly needing to upgrade is endemic of PCs as a whole. Who says you have to be able to play crysis on highest settings???? Hell, I'm playing it with everything set to Medium or Low with no AA. It looks alright (like far cry). It plays fine. I'm sure it looks a damn site better on your computer.

If you do give up gaming and you do Digital arts or whatever, buy a bloody Mac! How bizarre that I do Digital Arts and have a mac and happily play PC games on it!? But I'm not insecure about how well I run bloody crysis!

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#35 Jd1680a
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At the time of this post my current PC is:

Intel Q6600 Quad Core 2.4ghz (not 2.6ghz)

Gigabyte N680SLI-DQ6 6Quad Motherboard

4GB PC-6400 800MHZ Giel Dual Channel Ram

AMD/Radeon 2900XT 1GB

Creative X-Fi Fatality Soundcard.

Now all up, this PC is probably worth roughly $2500AUD

1nverted

Nice computer, Did you buy it just to play crysis? Most people who play games on a gaming PC are considered more of a hardcore gamers because of the amount of money they have to spend on their PCs.

Maybe you will come back with when Spore comes out.

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#36 -CheeseEater-
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[QUOTE="1nverted"]

At the time of this post my current PC is:

Intel Q6600 Quad Core 2.4ghz (not 2.6ghz)

Gigabyte N680SLI-DQ6 6Quad Motherboard

4GB PC-6400 800MHZ Giel Dual Channel Ram

AMD/Radeon 2900XT 1GB

Creative X-Fi Fatality Soundcard.

Now all up, this PC is probably worth roughly $2500AUD

Jd1680a

Nice computer, Did you buy it just to play crysis? Most people who play games on a gaming PC are considered more of a hardcore gamers because of the amount of money they have to spend on their PCs.

Maybe you will come back with when Spore comes out.

Spore is going to rock the house down! :D
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#37 Guiltfeeder566
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You'll be back... They always come back...
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#38 Buffalo_Soulja
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I don't see the problem. Nobody is forcing you to buy the most expensive PC available.
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#39 DarxPhil
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If that is what you want to do, Its ok. Becuase IMO there ARE better exclusive titles on Consoles and there are just tons of good games coming out this year for the Systems. I love PC hardware tho and will never stop liking it. But i still like games more then hardware which is something Consoles have, so i understand. But Crysis is only one games so don't get down on yourself, even the highest end rigs can't run Crysis(Try High with no AA on Crysis!). So just upgrade once in a while but you can be mainly Consoles.
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#40 DarxPhil
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I couldn't stop PC Gaming, because when new hardware comes out i get all gitty like a little girl in a toy store.
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#41 The_lol_maker
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I like both PC and consoles... when I'll grow up (I'm 15...) I'll probably get a good console aswell so I could play every game how it was meant to be played, consoles also usually get every game.... even Crysis is now being ported to the 360 and PS3....
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#42 0rgun
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I don't really understand how you can summarise the pc gaming over 1 game.... Wtf was you expecting from a game like Crysis? That game has been known to bring even the meanest of machines to their knees, I can understand your frustration if you feel overwhelmed with Crysis's lack of performance on your current rig, having just spent $2500AUD. But ffs, that game tears through any semi/high end rigs. There's no reason to justify the entire PC gaming industry over one over the top game.

You also fail to acknowledge the other great selection of PC games, maybe not exclusive to the PC but definintely BETTER with the control schemes and superior online multiplayer interface. COD4, Orange box's TF2, CS, Supreme Commander, UT3, Company of Heroes. And yes, Crysis excluded, I'm pretty sure you can run all of those games maxed out with BLISTERING fast framerates.

From your opening post, I can basically tell you 2 things:

1. You seem to have a problem accepting that if you buy a PC hardware, it WILL go down in price eventually when a more superior alternative comes out. If you can't do your research in the PC industry before you splash money on a bad upgrade choice, then maybe you should quit PC gaming for good. Like most ppl have said here, it's usually not a good idea to spend alot of cash on the top end stuff, the depreciation will screw you up. Be smart, do your research and most of all you have to be patient. If you wallet is the issue, then trying to find the best deal is inevitable isn't it? Take my Scenario for instance:

I've been looking to build a new custom rig in dec 2006. I had a 2/3 year old Dell machine which was having trouble keeping up with the latest games, I needed a gaming rig for 2007/8. At the time 8800 GTX was making rounds but it was way too expensive but I was also hearing rumours of ATI making a comeback which was scheduled in Q2 2007.

Instead of going out and dropping cash on all of the present hardware (within my budget), I waited it out to see what ATi can bring to the table, competition means lower prices! When it did eventually come out, the R600/2900 XT was a load of crap ( which you bought! ). It was big for nothing, if you checked the reviews, the thing sucked more juice than the 8800 GTX and performed miserably!! You have to remember that more volts = more heat, which is a no no for PC rigs expecially if you're looking to overclock your system.

Anyway, at this point I heard that ATi's miserable 2900XT wasn't all that they had to offer. They were actually busy piling resources on another project, shrinking their current chip ( less power consumption, cheaper manufacturing costs ) and rumoured to be extremely affordable in the semi-top end market. But this was scheduled to launch in 2008!!

In mid 2007, the E6600 Intel chip i was eye-ing had gone down in price from £199 to £130, at this point i reaaally wanted to buy the basic hardware and leave the GPU for later, just something i can tinker with. But common sense told me there was no point coz i woudlnt' be able to play the latest games anyway!!

To conclude the story, I finally finished my rig this year - instead of purchasing the duo core E6600, I got the Q6600 because that sumabish went down from a whopping £350-ish to £150!!! I also got me the HD3870 which was the card ATi was working on, and it was totally worth the wait, I can run every game COD4, UT3, Bioshock at max settings - super fast framerates for just £130. Crysis runs smooth on medium with couple features on high.

The total cost? Excluding the monitors -> just under £550 - which is $1214 AUD, less than half of what you paid for... PC gaming IS expensive, I give you that, but its not as exasperated as you think it is.

2. For me, PC gaming is all about superior controls and online experience, I would gladly pay more just to be able to play the games on PC. Keyboard and mouse is just essential imo, expecially for RTS, shooters and MMOs. But the main point I am trying to get across is, if it doesn't bother you that you're going to lose out on the PC control scheme/online interface - then u're probably not a very competitive PC gamer, and should probably just stick to consoles.

Sorry for long post.

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#43 crozon
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sorry like everyone says PC gaming is not about graphics only........

its been able to install aliens vs predator 2 and still find people playing online,

its about indie games like savage 2 , nitro stunt racing, defcon,

its about mods, counter strike, the hidden, insurgency

its about free maps built by the community - www.crymod.com for crysis maps

its about old games given a new lease of life by the community, freespace 2 open source, enemy engaged

and its about been able to play with a mouse and keyboard or controller, its about been able to play your games on a cool monitor or big tv,

if thats not why you like PC gaming, doors that way

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#44 G013M
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The total cost? Excluding the monitors -> just under £550 - which is $1214 AUD, less than half of what you paid for... PC gaming IS expensive, I give you that, but its not as exasperated as you think it is.

0rgun

You can't really just convert currency, hardware in general is more expensive in Australia then if you convert American prices to Australian prices.

The only other problem is that you can't really just keeping waiting if you want to buy something Hardwarewise, becuase there is always something just around the corner that will render what you bought obselete (not useless mind you though), and prices always end up going down. There's always a point where you have to say, "well I might as well just stop waiting and buy it".

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I don't really understand how you can summarise the pc gaming over 1 game.... Wtf was you expecting from a game like Crysis? That game has been known to bring even the meanest of machines to their knees, I can understand your frustration if you feel overwhelmed with Crysis's lack of performance on your current rig, having just spent $2500AUD. But ffs, that game tears through any semi/high end rigs. There's no reason to justify the entire PC gaming industry over one over the top game.

You also fail to acknowledge the other great selection of PC games, maybe not exclusive to the PC but definintely BETTER with the control schemes and superior online multiplayer interface. COD4, Orange box's TF2, CS, Supreme Commander, UT3, Company of Heroes. And yes, Crysis excluded, I'm pretty sure you can run all of those games maxed out with BLISTERING fast framerates.

From your opening post, I can basically tell you 2 things:

1. You seem to have a problem accepting that if you buy a PC hardware, it WILL go down in price eventually when a more superior alternative comes out. If you can't do your research in the PC industry before you splash money on a bad upgrade choice, then maybe you should quit PC gaming for good. Like most ppl have said here, it's usually not a good idea to spend alot of cash on the top end stuff, the depreciation will screw you up. Be smart, do your research and most of all you have to be patient. If you wallet is the issue, then trying to find the best deal is inevitable isn't it? Take my Scenario for instance:

I've been looking to build a new custom rig in dec 2006. I had a 2/3 year old Dell machine which was having trouble keeping up with the latest games, I needed a gaming rig for 2007/8. At the time 8800 GTX was making rounds but it was way too expensive but I was also hearing rumours of ATI making a comeback which was scheduled in Q2 2007.

Instead of going out and dropping cash on all of the present hardware (within my budget), I waited it out to see what ATi can bring to the table, competition means lower prices! When it did eventually come out, the R600/2900 XT was a load of crap ( which you bought! ). It was big for nothing, if you checked the reviews, the thing sucked more juice than the 8800 GTX and performed miserably!! You have to remember that more volts = more heat, which is a no no for PC rigs expecially if you're looking to overclock your system.

Anyway, at this point I heard that ATi's miserable 2900XT wasn't all that they had to offer. They were actually busy piling resources on another project, shrinking their current chip ( less power consumption, cheaper manufacturing costs ) and rumoured to be extremely affordable in the semi-top end market. But this was scheduled to launch in 2008!!

In mid 2007, the E6600 Intel chip i was eye-ing had gone down in price from £199 to £130, at this point i reaaally wanted to buy the basic hardware and leave the GPU for later, just something i can tinker with. But common sense told me there was no point coz i woudlnt' be able to play the latest games anyway!!

To conclude the story, I finally finished my rig this year - instead of purchasing the duo core E6600, I got the Q6600 because that sumabish went down from a whopping £350-ish to £150!!! I also got me the HD3870 which was the card ATi was working on, and it was totally worth the wait, I can run every game COD4, UT3, Bioshock at max settings - super fast framerates for just £130. Crysis runs smooth on medium with couple features on high.

The total cost? Excluding the monitors -> just under £550 - which is $1214 AUD, less than half of what you paid for... PC gaming IS expensive, I give you that, but its not as exasperated as you think it is.

2. For me, PC gaming is all about superior controls and online experience, I would gladly pay more just to be able to play the games on PC. Keyboard and mouse is just essential imo, expecially for RTS, shooters and MMOs. But the main point I am trying to get across is, if it doesn't bother you that you're going to lose out on the PC control scheme/online interface - then u're probably not a very competitive PC gamer, and should probably just stick to consoles.

Sorry for long post.

0rgun

Well the thing is, consoles (especially the PS3) are bascially computers. Back in the day consoles were the polar opposite of PC's but nowadays theres nothing really you can do on a PC that can't be done on a PS3 There is a mouse+KB addon for the PS3, the PS3's online service is free and the online is server based (not player hosted like the 360). Hell, the PS3 can also surf the net and have Windows XP and Linux installed on it.

The problem is not just Crysis as well, a lot of the Multiplat titles that came out last year had really horrible PC versions. I can name MoH Airbourne, R6V, Kayne and Lynch, Blacksite Area 51 too name a few. The Just Cause PC port had the entire shadowing system pulled from it for some god forsaken reason. Also, have you seen the recommended specs for the PC port of Assassins Creed? It will make your eyes bleed. I'm having a hard time trying to justify the price I paid for my PC when I have to deal with these horrible ports of console games that were thrown together at the last minute to please the PC user base. The only multiplat FPS's that were half decent were CoD4 and UT3 and UT3 died along with its community.

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#46 0rgun
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You can't really just convert currency, hardware in general is more expensive in Australia then if you convert American prices to Australian prices.

The only other problem is that you can't really just keeping waiting if you want to buy something Hardwarewise, becuase there is always something just around the corner that will render what you bought obselete (not useless mind you though), and prices always end up going down. There's always a point where you have to say, "well I might as well just stop waiting and buy it".

G013M

I didn't convert it from American currency to Australian mate, the costs shown is in £ - british currency and we get our stuff alot more expensive than America. But in comparison with Australia, I woudln't know tbh. But you can't deny the fact that I got a similar rig for alot less than when OP upgraded his rig over the last few months.

And you're right, you shoudln't have to wait all the time, its hard and the PC market is somewhat unpredictable ... but the thing is, the OP was talking about how expensive PC gaming is in relevance to Crysis game over consoles, i wanted to shed light on how a little research can save the expensive price tags of all those bad upgrade choices. If he was so upset on how expensive it is to keep up with PC gaming, then the least he can do is wait. As you talked about earlier.

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Well the thing is, consoles (especially the PS3) are bascially computers. Back in the day consoles were the polar opposite of PC's but nowadays theres nothing really you can do on a PC that can't be done on a PS3 There is a mouse+KB addon for the PS3, the PS3's online service is free and the online is server based (not player hosted like the 360). Hell, the PS3 can also surf the net and have Windows XP and Linux installed on it.

The problem is not just Crysis as well, a lot of the Multiplat titles that came out last year had really horrible PC versions. I can name MoH Airbourne, R6V, Kayne and Lynch, Blacksite Area 51 too name a few. The Just Cause PC port had the entire shadowing system pulled from it for some god forsaken reason. Also, have you seen the recommended specs for the PC port of Assassins Creed? It will make your eyes bleed. I'm having a hard time trying to justify the price I paid for my PC when I have to deal with these horrible ports of console games that were thrown together at the last minute to please the PC user base. The only multiplat FPS's that were half decent were CoD4 and UT3 and UT3 died along with its community.

1nverted

I don't own a PS3 ( yet ) so I woudln't know if its a good PC-replacement, which i'm sure it is in some ways but most likely not in most.

Some of the port that you mentioned do work on PC, and on my rig I've played K&L and R6V max settings with silky framerate. As for the ports optimisation? Thats debatable because those ports you mention does have several glitch/lag issues and generally run crap on semi-decent rigs and I understand that...

But lets be real...are you really gonna let those crappy ports turn u off from PC gaming? Which is confusing because I was under the impression that you were quitting the PC scene because of how expensive it was.... or are you claiming instead, that PS3 really is a good PC replacement / PC has no good games?

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Whatever floats your boat.

I'll still continue to game on my PC and my consoles. And oh ya my PS3 is only for Blu-Ray movies lol!

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#49 G013M
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[QUOTE="G013M"]

You can't really just convert currency, hardware in general is more expensive in Australia then if you convert American prices to Australian prices.

The only other problem is that you can't really just keeping waiting if you want to buy something Hardwarewise, becuase there is always something just around the corner that will render what you bought obselete (not useless mind you though), and prices always end up going down. There's always a point where you have to say, "well I might as well just stop waiting and buy it".

0rgun

I didn't convert it from American currency to Australian mate, the costs shown is in £ - british currency and we get our stuff alot more expensive than America. But in comparison with Australia, I woudln't know tbh. But you can't deny the fact that I got a similar rig for alot less than when OP upgraded his rig over the last few months.

And you're right, you shoudln't have to wait all the time, its hard and the PC market is somewhat unpredictable ... but the thing is, the OP was talking about how expensive PC gaming is in relevance to Crysis game over consoles, i wanted to shed light on how a little research can save the expensive price tags of all those bad upgrade choices. If he was so upset on how expensive it is to keep up with PC gaming, then the least he can do is wait. As you talked about earlier.

Sorry mate, I just tend to assume that everyone is talking about American dollars nowdays on here :P

The problem with the OP, was that he upgraded his rig over the period of a couple of months, if you're going to do that, you might as well just save up and buy everything at the same time as when you were going to buy the last part, as prices would have fallen (most likely anyway) and even new products would have come out.

And you're completely right (as well :P), a little research can save you a tonne of money down the line in the way of upgrades.

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#50 SentientGames
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I'm confused. I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but why is it necessary for some anonymous forum poster to announce that he's no longer going to play PC game and post in the PC forum? There can't possibly be enough people hanging around the PC Gaming forum that you have relationships with to warrent an announcement. The only possible motivation, in my mind, is to create a "Why PC gaming sucks and console gaming is better" argument. In that case, this should be in the system wars forum.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're not just trying to troll the PC gaming forum, but that you genuinely believe people care whether or not you're going to post in this section of the forums anymore. In that case, have fun playing your consoles. It's only a matter of time before your 360 gives you the RROD, and Microsoft sends you a dirty refurb in return. I've gone through three now.

But in anycase, if people want to argue technicalities, I could purchase a brand new Dell computer for $250 and play (literally) millions of free games on the internet. Granted, they won't be cutting-edge, triple-A games (although you could definitely play some AAA games from years past on a computer of that price), but throw in the ability to make your own games, mod existing ones, and play online for free, you really can't beat the value.