Even with its current glitches, there is something about this game that keeps pulling me back. Everything is just so keenly thought out in this game. I swore I'd stop playing SP till a patch comes but that was 2 levels ago, lol.
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It is the most ambitious game in years and is amazing in everything that it tries to do. The 'flaws' of it being difficult to learn are people not wanting to take the time to learn or just refuse to look through all the menus which are really nicely laid out imo. My biggest complaint is the shoddy translation.
Honestly I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the stats and metrics in the game and very confused by what's going on in the plot. Coming to terms with it gradually though, but it's very impressive how much freedom the game delivers. skrat_01
The plot is actually meant to keep you guessing and force multiple playthrough so you can piece it all together. The Witcher 2 does the same thing (the leader of the rebel resistance has a huge secret about her that you wouldn't know if you went Roche's path for example) and I love it. More games need this type of storytelling and we are gradually seeing them move towards it.
There's such a wealth of options for character development that it's just so engrossing. By level 50 I really felt very powerful (especially with level 9 cybernetic legs :D)
The Witcher 2 does the same thing (the leader of the rebel resistance has a huge secret about her that you wouldn't know if you went Roche's path for example)
Whiteblade999
My friends spoiled this for me because they assumed I went with Iorveth. I was not a happy camper. It was after I beat the game, but before my second playthrough :x
I'm really not liking the radial menu. It is just plain hard to use. I also find myself pressing ESC a lot to close out of menus but that just takes me to the game menu. I also dont like the toggle aim down sights.
Exactly the first things I noticed and I just gave it a short whirl. That and the tutorial menu itself is pretty darn overwhelming. Will probably dive in after a few patches or so as i've heard that there are quite afew quibbles.I'm really not liking the radial menu. It is just plain hard to use. I also find myself pressing ESC a lot to close out of menus but that just takes me to the game menu. I also dont like the toggle aim down sights.
MacBoomStick
My Gf and I are waiting for this game to go down in price just a little. Also give it time to get the usual patches.
We are gonna get 2 copies so we can LAN co-op this little gem... I love Cyber/Steam/Fantasy Punk settings. I like games with heavy atmosphere, and ones I can enjoy with my loved ones. Seems this games has a bit of all the aboved mentioned.
The patches I can understand waiting for. But a price drop? $20 is a steal for this game. I would have gladly paid $40+ for it.My Gf and I are waiting for this game to go down in price just a little. Also give it time to get the usual patches.
We are gonna get 2 copies so we can LAN co-op this little gem... I love Cyber/Steam/Fantasy Punk settings. I like games with heavy atmosphere, and ones I can enjoy with my loved ones. Seems this games has a bit of all the aboved mentioned.
Lach0121
I'm loving it. I was a bit annoyed because I put all my points in hacking and I found it to be a pointless skill, but damn is it useful now. It's amazing how intense looking at numbers fluctuating can be, I think it's entirely due to the fact the player can die if they lose the minigame. Other games lack real consequence like that. It's a pity it's being panned by critics, but I could see that coming a mile away. I can't imagine what E.Y.E 2 will be like, considering they'll have a decent budget now.
[QUOTE="Lach0121"]The patches I can understand waiting for. But a price drop? $20 is a steal for this game. I would have gladly paid $40+ for it.My Gf and I are waiting for this game to go down in price just a little. Also give it time to get the usual patches.
We are gonna get 2 copies so we can LAN co-op this little gem... I love Cyber/Steam/Fantasy Punk settings. I like games with heavy atmosphere, and ones I can enjoy with my loved ones. Seems this games has a bit of all the aboved mentioned.
Steameffekt
Patches, and price drop, we have to buy 2 copies, and right now trying to get some of her School loans paid off. So we are going a little easier on the games, atm.
We have plenty to hold us over until we can either afford to spend $50 on it, or until there is a good sale on it. I didn't necessarily mean wait for the price to drop permanently.
But good to know you think it is that good, along with others, it is one that kinda flew in under the radar, seems like it would be a blast.
How is hacking useless? :? I abuse the heck out of it whenever i can.I'm loving it. I was a bit annoyed because I put all my points in hacking and I found it to be a pointless skill, but damn is it useful now. It's amazing how intense looking at numbers fluctuating can be, I think it's entirely due to the fact the player can die if they lose the minigame. Other games lack real consequence like that. It's a pity it's being panned by critics, but I could see that coming a mile away. I can't imagine what E.Y.E 2 will be like, considering they'll have a decent budget now.
hypoty
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
This. Dark Messiah meets Deus Ex meets Warhammer 40,000.
Whiteblade999
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]What the hell is EYE???kozzy1234
A good little game that you are missing out on if you are asking what it is bud :P
Damn, I didn't like Dark Messiah... I never played Deus Ex and Warhammer was ok..... Might have to give it a go anyway. Is the Story/Plot interesting?[QUOTE="hypoty"]How is hacking useless? :? I abuse the heck out of it whenever i can.I'm loving it. I was a bit annoyed because I put all my points in hacking and I found it to be a pointless skill, but damn is it useful now. It's amazing how intense looking at numbers fluctuating can be, I think it's entirely due to the fact the player can die if they lose the minigame. Other games lack real consequence like that. It's a pity it's being panned by critics, but I could see that coming a mile away. I can't imagine what E.Y.E 2 will be like, considering they'll have a decent budget now.
Dante2710
Ah, I said it wasn't useless. At the start the cost of possibly dieing due to a failed hack outweighed the positives, especially when I was failing more often than not due to a low skill level. Later on it's awesome.
[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] [QUOTE="kozzy1234"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]What the hell is EYE???FelipeInside
A good little game that you are missing out on if you are asking what it is bud :P
Damn, I didn't like Dark Messiah... I never played Deus Ex and Warhammer was ok..... Might have to give it a go anyway. Is the Story/Plot interesting? Its more Deus Ex in gameplay and Warhammer in style.[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] [QUOTE="kozzy1234"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]What the hell is EYE???FelipeInside
A good little game that you are missing out on if you are asking what it is bud :P
Damn, I didn't like Dark Messiah... I never played Deus Ex and Warhammer was ok..... Might have to give it a go anyway. Is the Story/Plot interesting?It is the Dark Messiah pick your playstyle, Deus Ex level design and character advancement and Warhammer 40,000 tone and style.
The story is actually very good but you aren't going to figure it out unless you play through multiple times. Apparently there is even a 'real' ending that they included but no one has found yet.
The main issue the story has is they decided to let someone who doesn't speak English as a first OR second language do the translation from French..
[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] [QUOTE="kozzy1234"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]What the hell is EYE???FelipeInside
A good little game that you are missing out on if you are asking what it is bud :P
Damn, I didn't like Dark Messiah... I never played Deus Ex and Warhammer was ok..... Might have to give it a go anyway. Is the Story/Plot interesting?I didnt like Dark Messiah either, but I am enjoying EYE so far :)
Also dude you gotta pick up DEUS EX sometime, regarded by many as the best PC game of all time.
Damn, I didn't like Dark Messiah... I never played Deus Ex and Warhammer was ok..... Might have to give it a go anyway. Is the Story/Plot interesting?[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]
A good little game that you are missing out on if you are asking what it is bud :P
kozzy1234
I didnt like Dark Messiah either, but I am enjoying EYE so far :)
Also dude you gotta pick up DEUS EX sometime, regarded by many as the best PC game of all time.
Yeah,,,, Deus Ex has passed it's time for me... I'm hoping Human Revolution will capture some of the magic so I can experience it....[QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Damn, I didn't like Dark Messiah... I never played Deus Ex and Warhammer was ok..... Might have to give it a go anyway. Is the Story/Plot interesting?FelipeInside
I didnt like Dark Messiah either, but I am enjoying EYE so far :)
Also dude you gotta pick up DEUS EX sometime, regarded by many as the best PC game of all time.
Yeah,,,, Deus Ex has passed it's time for me... I'm hoping Human Revolution will capture some of the magic so I can experience it.... That's weak sauce Felipe. I can already tell you that will Human Revolution will be at least very good, but it's not going to be great in the same vein as Deux Ex.Yeah,,,, Deus Ex has passed it's time for me... I'm hoping Human Revolution will capture some of the magic so I can experience it.... That's weak sauce Felipe. I can already tell you that will Human Revolution will be at least very good, but it's not going to be great in the same vein as Deux Ex. Weak Tomato Sauce? I know I know...but for some reason I have trouble going back to old games lately. Maybe it's because my gametime is limited and I want to use it with newer releases.... I'm playing LIMBO right now....awesome stuff...[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]
I didnt like Dark Messiah either, but I am enjoying EYE so far :)
Also dude you gotta pick up DEUS EX sometime, regarded by many as the best PC game of all time.
KHAndAnime
Yeah,,,, Deus Ex has passed it's time for me... I'm hoping Human Revolution will capture some of the magic so I can experience it....FelipeInside
Ok I hate to call people out but this is bull. Buy the game (do we have to chip together and gift it to you during a sale?), follow the instructions on this page to make it look good and enjoy the game. There is no reason to skip the game because if you have time to play Human Revolution odds are you have time to play the original. You aren't getting off the hook until you at least try it :).
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Yeah,,,, Deus Ex has passed it's time for me... I'm hoping Human Revolution will capture some of the magic so I can experience it....Whiteblade999
Ok I hate to call people out but this is bull. Buy the game (do we have to chip together and gift it to you during a sale?), follow the instructions on this page to make it look good and enjoy the game. There is no reason to skip the game because if you have time to play Human Revolution odds are you have time to play the original. You aren't getting off the hook until you at least try it :).
LOL.... GameSpot friends invading my house and strapping me to a chair and making me play it......hahahahaah I actually think I DID try Deus Ex once and didn't like it.... or maybe that was Invisible War.....[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Yeah,,,, Deus Ex has passed it's time for me... I'm hoping Human Revolution will capture some of the magic so I can experience it....Whiteblade999
Ok I hate to call people out but this is bull. Buy the game (do we have to chip together and gift it to you during a sale?), follow the instructions on this page to make it look good and enjoy the game. There is no reason to skip the game because if you have time to play Human Revolution odds are you have time to play the original. You aren't getting off the hook until you at least try it :).
There is even a new texture mod that has just been released yesterday: Deus Ex: New Vision
Looks pretty nice from what I've seen.
[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Yeah,,,, Deus Ex has passed it's time for me... I'm hoping Human Revolution will capture some of the magic so I can experience it....FelipeInside
Ok I hate to call people out but this is bull. Buy the game (do we have to chip together and gift it to you during a sale?), follow the instructions on this page to make it look good and enjoy the game. There is no reason to skip the game because if you have time to play Human Revolution odds are you have time to play the original. You aren't getting off the hook until you at least try it :).
LOL.... GameSpot friends invading my house and strapping me to a chair and making me play it......hahahahaah I actually think I DID try Deus Ex once and didn't like it.... or maybe that was Invisible War..... I also played Deus Ex, I enjoyed it, but it is a game from an older time. It hasn't aged well in terms of visuals or gameplay. Its hardly the messiah that some PC gamers hype up.LOL.... GameSpot friends invading my house and strapping me to a chair and making me play it......hahahahaah I actually think I DID try Deus Ex once and didn't like it.... or maybe that was Invisible War..... I also played Deus Ex, I enjoyed it, but it is a game from an older time. It hasn't aged well in terms of visuals or gameplay. Its hardly the messiah that some PC gamers hype up. Yeah....I used to be able to go back to older games without an issue... but in the last few years, there has been such a great leap in graphics and gameplay and IDEAS that going back to them is harder for me...[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]
Ok I hate to call people out but this is bull. Buy the game (do we have to chip together and gift it to you during a sale?), follow the instructions on this page to make it look good and enjoy the game. There is no reason to skip the game because if you have time to play Human Revolution odds are you have time to play the original. You aren't getting off the hook until you at least try it :).
JangoWuzHere
[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]I also played Deus Ex, I enjoyed it, but it is a game from an older time. It hasn't aged well in terms of visuals or gameplay. Its hardly the messiah that some PC gamers hype up. Yeah....I used to be able to go back to older games without an issue... but in the last few years, there has been such a great leap in graphics and gameplay and IDEAS that going back to them is harder for me...[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] LOL.... GameSpot friends invading my house and strapping me to a chair and making me play it......hahahahaah I actually think I DID try Deus Ex once and didn't like it.... or maybe that was Invisible War.....FelipeInside
The only games that feel truly timeless to me would be games like Planescape Torment or Baulders Gate 2. Dungeons and Dragons is a game that will never get old if you enjoy roleplaying. Also the 2D artstyle is still gorgeous even by today standards.
A game like Deus Ex is just old. The shooting is old, the stealth is old, the graphics and presentation are old etc. It just felt like an old game when I played it. I feel like when people look upon Deus Ex, they are looking at it with great nostalgia.
Yeah....I used to be able to go back to older games without an issue... but in the last few years, there has been such a great leap in graphics and gameplay and IDEAS that going back to them is harder for me...[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] I also played Deus Ex, I enjoyed it, but it is a game from an older time. It hasn't aged well in terms of visuals or gameplay. Its hardly the messiah that some PC gamers hype up.
JangoWuzHere
The only games that feel truly timeless to me would be games like Planescape Torment or Baulders Gate 2. Dungeons and Dragons is a game that will never get old if you enjoy roleplaying. Also the 2D artstyle is still gorgeous even by today standards.
A game like Deus Ex is just old. The shooting is old, the stealth is old, the graphics and presentation are old etc. It just felt like an old game when I played it. I feel like when people look upon Deus Ex, they are looking at it with great nostalgia.
I often prefer the way they used to do it, the way they do it now is often just streamlined way too much. Theres a reason why people still play games like counter-strike, those new ideas are for the birds since half-life 2 came out.[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Yeah....I used to be able to go back to older games without an issue... but in the last few years, there has been such a great leap in graphics and gameplay and IDEAS that going back to them is harder for me...TerrorRizzing
The only games that feel truly timeless to me would be games like Planescape Torment or Baulders Gate 2. Dungeons and Dragons is a game that will never get old if you enjoy roleplaying. Also the 2D artstyle is still gorgeous even by today standards.
A game like Deus Ex is just old. The shooting is old, the stealth is old, the graphics and presentation are old etc. It just felt like an old game when I played it. I feel like when people look upon Deus Ex, they are looking at it with great nostalgia.
I often prefer the way they used to do it, the way they do it now is often just streamlined way too much. Theres a reason why people still play games like counter-strike, those new ideas are for the birds since half-life 2 came out. I agree and disagree. Some "streamlined" new things are good...cause they take away the tedious stuff so you can concentrate on the fun...I agree and disagree. Some "streamlined" new things are good...cause they take away the tedious stuff so you can concentrate on the fun...FelipeInside
Gonna have to go with you on this.
I think Oblivion is the better game over Morrowind because it streamlined all of the problems. I know a bunch of fanboys are gonna jump on me for saying that because I get it everytime I bring up the point. Morrowind had broken combat, a certain enemy forcing combat every 20 steps, a story that tried to be mysterious and ended up making less sense then EYEs story, and the directions were often inaccurate which led to searching areas for hours. Oblivion wasn't the best game until you modded it but at least the combat worked and the directions were specific.
On the other hand there are times when less streamlining is good. Baldur's Gate 2 has everything a good RPG should. Great combat, a great sense of pace, great story, great villian, great banter, great world and a ruleset that allows for really great customization.
Then you look at the abomination that is Dragon Age: Origins. The combat is probably the strongest point of the game, the deep roads and other areas are very poorly paced, the story is lame, the villian is a dragon who doesn't say a word, banter works but nowhere near Minsc & Boo, poor world and a very basic ruleset that shoehorned you into DPS/Tank/Healer.
I also played Deus Ex, I enjoyed it, but it is a game from an older time. It hasn't aged well in terms of visuals or gameplay. Its hardly the messiah that some PC gamers hype up.
JangoWuzHere
I actually agree with you here 100%. The game is like Ultima 7, it is one of the best done games at the time. It is a sort of a piece of history that a lot of PC gamers feel everyone should play. I make a habit out of pushing my other PC gaming friends to play it, I don't care if they like it or not but most of the time they understand the importance of the game and what it did to the medium which is all I want. Respecting the elders type thing.
[QUOTE="Lach0121"]The patches I can understand waiting for. But a price drop? $20 is a steal for this game. I would have gladly paid $40+ for it. Well, $20 isn't something people want to drop to "try" a game. Sure, you are happy with your purchase but it's not like everyone will love this game.My Gf and I are waiting for this game to go down in price just a little. Also give it time to get the usual patches.
We are gonna get 2 copies so we can LAN co-op this little gem... I love Cyber/Steam/Fantasy Punk settings. I like games with heavy atmosphere, and ones I can enjoy with my loved ones. Seems this games has a bit of all the aboved mentioned.
Steameffekt
I agree and disagree. Some "streamlined" new things are good...cause they take away the tedious stuff so you can concentrate on the fun...FelipeInside
Yes, but the trouble is: one person's "tedious stuff" is another person's fun.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I agree and disagree. Some "streamlined" new things are good...cause they take away the tedious stuff so you can concentrate on the fun...-wildflower-
Yes, but the trouble is: one person's "tedious stuff" is another person's fun.
Yeah maybe I guess... The "tedious" stuff I was talking about was more about little technical things. For example an RPG where you have to highlight an item, then click pick-up...then it picks up the item... instead of just click and pick up...Ahh, I see. I thought you were talking more about things like stats, learning curves, inventory management, death having a bit of a sting, lack of regenerating mana/health, etc...you know, the stuff that usually gets streamlined (in RPGs) so grandma can play, too.
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