Why is Intel so darn expensive??

theres no need for a comparison, if its $1200 just for a cpu it isnt worth it. also the AMD will run fine, alot of people like to under rate AMD, but most of them they only know about or have used intel so to them if it isnt intel its crap

also your paying for the word intel on it, like alot of other things brand name has an effect on the price, its called paying for the name

The Core 2 Extreme QX9970 blows the Phenom X4 9950 out of the water in terms of performance. That being said, the QX9970 isn't worth the price compared to say, the Q9450 (and the Q9450 will best the X4 9950). In games, even the Core 2 Duo E8400 outperforms that Phenom.

AMD's prices are so cheap because they can't compete in the processor market. Which is a shame really, since they have a great platform, awesome graphics card, but they just don't have their act together in the CPU department.

Do some more research. If price is a concern, obviously the Extreme lineup isn't for you, but you can get better performance simply by overclocking ones 1/4 of the price. I'm satisfied with what Intel is doing, usually spend around $300 for a new cpu, but they have very good products for gaming at close to half that, and the oc potential is a significant factor. AMD has some very good offerings if you're on a tight budget, but if you're looking to spend over $1000 for a new build, Intel is probably better for now. BeavermanA

Intel has plenty of reasonably priced products that will still smoke AMD. If you don't want to pay $1200 for a CPU don't. There are plenty of alternatives. I imagine there are people out there that will buy that CPU entireely for bragging rights...

Ehhh when AMD was on top they charged $1K for their FX processors too.........................X360PS3AMD05

Its not only a concern but come on, $1200 dollars for a CPU? what are they smoking. I can agree in terms that Intel is favored more for its quality and performance but thats just ridiculous. Money hungry Corporates, ugh. If I am ot get a new PC, yes I am spending over $1000 on it and I am more favorable for Intel, but thats just completely stupid on their sideKamekazi_69

You must be new to the computer scene. Don't remember the Athlon FX seies? AMD had plenty of $1000 chips in its time on top. Yes, $1200 is absurd for a processor for home use, but Intel isn't the only one that has charged that much in the past. Both companies have done this and most likely will continue doing it. If AMD gets back on top, you can bet your last dollar you'll see them do it again.

But your comparison is stupid. Intel makes a $1200 processor, so they're all expensive, is that your argument? Honda makes F1 cars that cost half a million, so they must all be expensive too, right? Look at price-performance ratios, don't just pick the most expensive processor from each companies lineup and start crying.

I remember when the family PC died and i was so excited to build a replacement because the Athlon X2 3800+ had just dropped from $300 to $150. :lol:X360PS3AMD05

Ah, the heady days of the summer of '06.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Its not only a concern but come on, $1200 dollars for a CPU? what are they smoking. I can agree in terms that Intel is favored more for its quality and performance but thats just ridiculous. Money hungry Corporates, ugh. If I am ot get a new PC, yes I am spending over $1000 on it and I am more favorable for Intel, but thats just completely stupid on their sideRayvinAzn

You must be new to the computer scene. Don't remember the Athlon FX seies? AMD had plenty of $1000 chips in its time on top. Yes, $1200 is absurd for a processor for home use, but Intel isn't the only one that has charged that much in the past. Both companies have done this and most likely will continue doing it. If AMD gets back on top, you can bet your last dollar you'll see them do it again.

But your comparison is stupid. Intel makes a $1200 processor, so they're all expensive, is that your argument? Honda makes F1 cars that cost half a million, so they must all be expensive too, right? Look at price-performance ratios, don't just pick the most expensive processor from each companies lineup and start crying.

[QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Its not only a concern but come on, $1200 dollars for a CPU? what are they smoking. I can agree in terms that Intel is favored more for its quality and performance but thats just ridiculous. Money hungry Corporates, ugh. If I am ot get a new PC, yes I am spending over $1000 on it and I am more favorable for Intel, but thats just completely stupid on their sideKamekazi_69

You must be new to the computer scene. Don't remember the Athlon FX seies? AMD had plenty of $1000 chips in its time on top. Yes, $1200 is absurd for a processor for home use, but Intel isn't the only one that has charged that much in the past. Both companies have done this and most likely will continue doing it. If AMD gets back on top, you can bet your last dollar you'll see them do it again.

But your comparison is stupid. Intel makes a $1200 processor, so they're all expensive, is that your argument? Honda makes F1 cars that cost half a million, so they must all be expensive too, right? Look at price-performance ratios, don't just pick the most expensive processor from each companies lineup and start crying.

[QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Its not only a concern but come on, $1200 dollars for a CPU? what are they smoking. I can agree in terms that Intel is favored more for its quality and performance but thats just ridiculous. Money hungry Corporates, ugh. If I am ot get a new PC, yes I am spending over $1000 on it and I am more favorable for Intel, but thats just completely stupid on their sideKamekazi_69

You must be new to the computer scene. Don't remember the Athlon FX seies? AMD had plenty of $1000 chips in its time on top. Yes, $1200 is absurd for a processor for home use, but Intel isn't the only one that has charged that much in the past. Both companies have done this and most likely will continue doing it. If AMD gets back on top, you can bet your last dollar you'll see them do it again.

But your comparison is stupid. Intel makes a $1200 processor, so they're all expensive, is that your argument? Honda makes F1 cars that cost half a million, so they must all be expensive too, right? Look at price-performance ratios, don't just pick the most expensive processor from each companies lineup and start crying.

There is a big difference between a good performing PC, and the best performing PC. If you want the best, be prepared to pay through the nose. You can get a top quality CPU for a few hundred, you should just forget that CPU exists, like million dollar cars from honda, like has already been said.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Its not only a concern but come on, $1200 dollars for a CPU? what are they smoking. I can agree in terms that Intel is favored more for its quality and performance but thats just ridiculous. Money hungry Corporates, ugh. If I am ot get a new PC, yes I am spending over $1000 on it and I am more favorable for Intel, but thats just completely stupid on their sideferret-gamer

You must be new to the computer scene. Don't remember the Athlon FX seies? AMD had plenty of $1000 chips in its time on top. Yes, $1200 is absurd for a processor for home use, but Intel isn't the only one that has charged that much in the past. Both companies have done this and most likely will continue doing it. If AMD gets back on top, you can bet your last dollar you'll see them do it again.

But your comparison is stupid. Intel makes a $1200 processor, so they're all expensive, is that your argument? Honda makes F1 cars that cost half a million, so they must all be expensive too, right? Look at price-performance ratios, don't just pick the most expensive processor from each companies lineup and start crying.

Hmm interesting. When will the i7 be available?

You are complaining about Intel's overpricing, then you are saying that you are considering a Mac. That's a contradiction!Mr_NoName111

A Mac is an overpriced PC running OSX.

1)The QX9775 has 12mb cache,that phenom probably has 2mb.

2)Intel CPU's oc's better.

3)If you can't buy a $1500 CPU,don't blame intel,their CPU's are great.

You say that the QX9775 is an overpriced CPU,yet you say you're considering a MAC.You make no sence.And yes,MAC's are overpriced,FOR THE HARDWARE YOU'RE GETTING.darx55

2. Who am I blaming? I am asking a question and I a responding by calling the price ridiculous. Yes their CPUs are great but their prices are not. Who can I blame? Its my choice what I decide to buy and I was asking a question. I dont know where you got the word "blame".

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Its not only a concern but come on, $1200 dollars for a CPU? what are they smoking. I can agree in terms that Intel is favored more for its quality and performance but thats just ridiculous. Money hungry Corporates, ugh. If I am ot get a new PC, yes I am spending over $1000 on it and I am more favorable for Intel, but thats just completely stupid on their sideKamekazi_69

You must be new to the computer scene. Don't remember the Athlon FX seies? AMD had plenty of $1000 chips in its time on top. Yes, $1200 is absurd for a processor for home use, but Intel isn't the only one that has charged that much in the past. Both companies have done this and most likely will continue doing it. If AMD gets back on top, you can bet your last dollar you'll see them do it again.

But your comparison is stupid. Intel makes a $1200 processor, so they're all expensive, is that your argument? Honda makes F1 cars that cost half a million, so they must all be expensive too, right? Look at price-performance ratios, don't just pick the most expensive processor from each companies lineup and start crying.

Hmm interesting. When will the i7 be available?

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="RayvinAzn"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Its not only a concern but come on, $1200 dollars for a CPU? what are they smoking. I can agree in terms that Intel is favored more for its quality and performance but thats just ridiculous. Money hungry Corporates, ugh. If I am ot get a new PC, yes I am spending over $1000 on it and I am more favorable for Intel, but thats just completely stupid on their sideferret-gamer

You must be new to the computer scene. Don't remember the Athlon FX seies? AMD had plenty of $1000 chips in its time on top. Yes, $1200 is absurd for a processor for home use, but Intel isn't the only one that has charged that much in the past. Both companies have done this and most likely will continue doing it. If AMD gets back on top, you can bet your last dollar you'll see them do it again.

But your comparison is stupid. Intel makes a $1200 processor, so they're all expensive, is that your argument? Honda makes F1 cars that cost half a million, so they must all be expensive too, right? Look at price-performance ratios, don't just pick the most expensive processor from each companies lineup and start crying.

Hmm interesting. When will the i7 be available?

There will be no 8 core i7 for the desktop consumer market.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"] Its not only a concern but come on, $1200 dollars for a CPU? what are they smoking. I can agree in terms that Intel is favored more for its quality and performance but thats just ridiculous. Money hungry Corporates, ugh. If I am ot get a new PC, yes I am spending over $1000 on it and I am more favorable for Intel, but thats just completely stupid on their sideRayvinAzn

You must be new to the computer scene. Don't remember the Athlon FX seies? AMD had plenty of $1000 chips in its time on top. Yes, $1200 is absurd for a processor for home use, but Intel isn't the only one that has charged that much in the past. Both companies have done this and most likely will continue doing it. If AMD gets back on top, you can bet your last dollar you'll see them do it again.

But your comparison is stupid. Intel makes a $1200 processor, so they're all expensive, is that your argument? Honda makes F1 cars that cost half a million, so they must all be expensive too, right? Look at price-performance ratios, don't just pick the most expensive processor from each companies lineup and start crying.

Harsh much?

Simple answer - because Intel is the best.

Their processors are very stable. So it costs more money.

Macs are not overpriced, you're paying for their software. X360PS3AMD05

You mean the OS of Mac not the hardware, wich can be "used on any computer". Mac are generaly more expensive for the same hardware.

Yes, but you're paying to use iMusic, garage, photo, iLife, I don't know whatever the hell they use :lol: Everyone claims their software is great for professionals. I'd bet 90% of musicians use a mac.X360PS3AMD05

Again, you can "use that on a PC"... you don't really need to have a MAC.

Again, you can "use that on a PC"... you don't really need to have a MAC.Bebi_vegeta

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Again, you can "use that on a PC"... you don't really need to have a MAC.CellAnimation

Yes, why don't we cosumer's pay more for same hardware...

But why don't they give the option of running Mac OS on PC, while Mac can run Windows OS legaly,hmmmm?

[QUOTE="CellAnimation"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Again, you can "use that on a PC"... you don't really need to have a MAC.Bebi_vegeta

Yes, why don't we cosumer's pay more for same hardware...

But why don't they give the option of running Mac OS on PC, while Mac can run Windows OS legaly,hmmmm?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="CellAnimation"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Again, you can "use that on a PC"... you don't really need to have a MAC.CellAnimation

Yes, why don't we cosumer's pay more for same hardware...

But why don't they give the option of running Mac OS on PC, while Mac can run Windows OS legaly,hmmmm?

Maybe you lost track when Apple was finaly using Intel CPU instead of IBM... wich funny enough Windows also uses Intel. You can look under the hood of desktop or laptop and realise, hey it's the same computer. So if it isn't the same hardware, how come I can run OS Mac on a PC today and couldn't in the pass?

Do you think they use some "special" hardware? Here's the apple store for Mac book pro, http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/configure/MA970LL/A?mco=NzQ3Njkz ...looks awfully familiar. Seriously, just look at how overpriced that is!!!

Complaining about Apples price is a reallity.

And, No I won't buy an Apple computer or pay there so called "tax", there's no good reason for a gamer to get an Apple computer.

[Ok Im giving an opinion, im not demanding for Intel to change their prices. You are talking to an 18 year old in college earning minimum wage so yes price is my argument. If I think its expensive, ill simply not buy it, so I dont see what you are calling stupid. Yes I am aiming for a top Quality PC and I already have layed aside money for a $400 Animation Program on student discount and I top quality Nvidia card. This is a PC that will say with me for 4 or 5 years so I must have a good top performing machine. I'm using the software for college purposes and the card to increase speed and to play once in awhile. But I'm becoming skeptic about the situation and considering a Mac instead is a possibility., but I want to also see what PC offers Kamekazi_69

You're complaining about something that doesn't affect you in the least. That makes no sense. Look at any benchmarks - you can get CPUs that perform within a hair of their Extreme offerings for a quarter of that price. If all Intel CPU's cost that much then you'd have a valid complaint, but since they do have offerings for nearly every budget I fail to see what you're complaining about. In the sub-$100 arena you have the excellent E5200, in the sub-$150 range you get the E7200, up to around $200 you can get either the E8400 or Q6600, $250 puts you in the Q9300 territory, and up around $300 you have chips that can perform on par with the QX line of processors, namely the Q9450/Q9550.

Let me give you some advice though: Don't spend all your money now on a machine that you hope will run well for 4-5 years. It never works. Think about what was reasonably top-end 5 years ago: The recently released Athlon 64 series for socket 754, ATI's Radeon 9800 Pro, 1GB of RAM, about 80GB of drive space. Now think about having a machine like that today. Kind of makes you want to consider an upgrade in the meantime, no? Instead of blowing all your money now on a machine that will (and I can promise you this) be so outdated in five years it'll be very difficult to work on. Spend your money wisely now, and save some of your money for an upgrade/overhaul in about 2-3 years.

Core i7 is launching next month, and the processor prices aren't too bad (initial estimates for the i7 920, a quad-core 2.66GHz chip with HyperThreading for 8 logical cores are a little shy of $300), but the platform itself is going to be pricey. For optimal performance you need to run tri-channel DDR3 memory, which is going to cost at least $100 for a cheap, 3x1GB budget kit of low speed and high latencies, and easily three or four times that for a 3x2GB kit of decent speed. And let's not forget the motherboards themselves which are only launching on the enthusiast X58 platform, with no budget chipset option. I wouldn't expect to see a single board priced less than $200 until Christmas (or maybe Black Friday) either. Gains for gamers are minimal, but for professional work they may balance out the cost. I might wait and see in your case.

Do you think they use some "special" hardware? Here's the apple store for Mac book pro, http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/configure/MA970LL/A?mco=NzQ3Njkz ...looks awfully familiar. Seriously, just look at how overpriced that is!!!

Bebi_vegeta

$2800 for dual Harpertown chips ($700+ apiece), 2GB of DDR2 800 FB-DIMM RAM (yes, it's buffered, not unbuffered like standard desktop memory) is a bit over $100 last I checked, the dual-LGA771 motherbord with four PCI-e x16 slots, and supports riser cards for RAM has to be at least $300, and the rest of that hardware honestly isn't that overpriced. Especially considering the high-end power supply and expansion options you have. Not to mention the support that comes with the machine - that's a workstation meant for professional use. If you or me have our computers break we can't game or Fold for the cure until its fixed. If a machine like this throws a hissy fit companies can lose thousands or millions of dollars.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Do you think they use some "special" hardware? Here's the apple store for Mac book pro, http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/configure/MA970LL/A?mco=NzQ3Njkz ...looks awfully familiar. Seriously, just look at how overpriced that is!!!

RayvinAzn

$2800 for dual Harpertown chips ($700+ apiece), 2GB of DDR2 800 FB-DIMM RAM (yes, it's buffered, not unbuffered like standard desktop memory) is a bit over $100 last I checked, the dual-LGA771 motherbord with four PCI-e x16 slots, and supports riser cards for RAM has to be at least $300, and the rest of that hardware honestly isn't that overpriced. Especially considering the high-end power supply and expansion options you have. Not to mention the support that comes with the machine - that's a workstation meant for professional use. If you or me have our computers break we can't game or Fold for the cure until its fixed. If a machine like this throws a hissy fit companies can lose thousands or millions of dollars.

WHAT?

Just look at this BUFFERED $50 2Gb or ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170541%201052307859%201052121731&name=240-Pin%20DDR2%20FB-DIMM

Just go look at the GPU, HDD, monitor... comon!!! Also knowing you can't get the lastest GPU.

The only thing that is fairly price is the CPU, wich i'm sure intel made a deal with since mac won't use AMD.