Why is Windows 7 more famous than Vista?

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#1 EZs
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Why is Windows 7 more famous than Vista? any idea?

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#2 MonsieurX
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Cause it's better?
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#3 Tezcatlipoca666
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Cause it's better?MonsieurX

/thread

Windows 7 is perhaps microsofts best and Vista was among the worst.

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#4 __Kaine__
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Better overall.. more stable and faster than Vista..

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#5 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Cause it's better?Tezcatlipoca666

/thread

Windows 7 is perhaps microsofts best and Vista was among the worst.

This.
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#6 EZs
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Cause it's better?Tezcatlipoca666

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Windows 7 is perhaps microsofts best and Vista was among the worst.

Ok could you explain why is Vista is among the worst?

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#7 MonsieurX
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Worst than ME or 2000? :lol:

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#8 mep69
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because my toilet is a better OS than vista.

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#9 Crypt_mx
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Cause it's better?EZs

/thread

Windows 7 is perhaps microsofts best and Vista was among the worst.

Ok could you explain why is Vista is among the worst?

Vista has a slew of compatibility issues and proved a problem for many people transferring over from XP. It was filled with bugs and crashes that prompted blue screens. It also was bad at allocating resources so it made your computer slower over all. It also used far too much ram which hurt gamers who had 2gb of ram.

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#10 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Cause it's better?EZs

/thread

Windows 7 is perhaps microsofts best and Vista was among the worst.

Ok could you explain why is Vista is among the worst?

You other than the fact that it was slower than WinXP, used a ton more RAM, had compatibility issues (forgot about that as well), was no more stable than XP, didn't recover from errors any better than XP, and was all around unoptimized?

Windows 7 is what Vista should have been from the start.

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#11 LordRork
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Ok could you explain why is Vista is among the worst?

EZs

Vista wasn't that bad, but it's release was botched, particularly the 64 bit version. Driver and hardware support was patchy, so many devices didn't work with it when it was released. It required a lot of memory compared to XP, so really didn't suit anything other than high performance (for the time) machines.

I never had any issues with Vista 64, but MS well and truly dropped the ball. That contaminated the brand for the rest of its life cycle, and then MS came out with Win7, which was just plain better and didn't make the same mistakes (more efficient, better driver support...etc.).

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#12 ionusX
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on top of all the tings mentioned.. shadowrun that is all

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#13 anolecrabcf
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because my toilet is a better OS than vista.

mep69
I agree better RAM administration, I mean you could at least flush the RAM. /end pun
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#14 saruman354
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I was always partial to XP and 98, but I do love Windows 7.

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#15 swehunt
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I can know one big diffrence and that is that people were afraid of superfetch when Vista launched! / thread! ;)

Really, people got afraid because Vista wanted to make use of the un-used memory everyone had sitting in their PC's, so people mistaked Vistas ram usage for an ram requirement, and that is just wrong, Vista will not use much many more mb than 7 does but it make use of un-used memory.

Vista is a perfectly fine OS, it's faster than XP in every single way but many were to afraid to even give it a chance, ofc. it had a cuple quirks from the testing table and a bit into the launch, partly because 64bit got much more popular at the time and devs. of some programs had to re-think their driver/codes to make it work.

The biggest problem with vista wasn't really vistas fault to be honest, but win 7 is a slightly better OS.

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#16 sailor232
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I only had little problems with vista, I started to like it after a while. It took companies far too long to bring 64bit drivers and software onto the market, so I stuck with xp till that happened.

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#17 gmaster456
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I personally loved vista but it got some bad press early on for compatibility and performance issues and it never really caught on with the public after that. I didn't find it bad at all.
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#18 James161324
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Windows vista i disliked it always seem to slow down after some time. Windows 7 is pretty great

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#19 Captain__Tripps
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Vista's reputation is far worse than reality. Windows 7 is 90% Vista, and they are both slower than XP...
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#20 i5750at4Ghz
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Windows 7 was solid at launch, Vista wasn't. Comparing the two today they are almost identical.
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#21 kayoticdreamz
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Worst than ME or 2000? :lol:

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well nothing is worse than ME
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#22 Tezcatlipoca666
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I personally loved vista but it got some bad press early on for compatibility and performance issues and it never really caught on with the public after that. I didn't find it bad at all. gmaster456

I remember 1GB Vista laptops (and maybe desktops as well?) on sale when Vista was released and into 2007. Those were so slow it's no wonder that it got bad press.

There is no denying that Windows 7 is far superior though...

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#24 edinsftw
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Gonna be honest...i had way less problems with vista than i did with win7 lol. Opposite of most people, turn off UAC and vista was fine.

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#25 acsam12304
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i use to have Vista, and i have to say i loved it. I did how ever ran into a few problems, like Auto run never worked when i popped in a disc of any kind. the auto run exe's never work either in programs when i wanted to install games.

but all in all Vista was great for its short life till Windows 7 came, and OH MAN! Windows 7 beats all

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#26 Urworstnhtmare
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Windows Vista is to Windows 7 what Windows 95 was to Windows 98...

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#27 Hekynn
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Its better than Vista plain and simple.
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#28 JigglyWiggly_
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Worst than ME or 2000? :lol:

MonsieurX

D00de, who insults win2k? That's probaly Microsoft's best OS, or NT 4.0

It's what brought a modern NT kernel to Windows, and got us away from DOS. NT 4.0 did this as well, but Windows 2000 totally overhauled it.

Also to TC, they are exactly the same. It's just marketing, I am dissapointed in teh people in dis thread.

Ever seen a program that works on 7 and not on Vista? Nope? Oh...

Same driver base

Mostly same kernel

Same APIs

Just lower memory usage in 7

Oh and new task bar

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#29 brownwhale
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Vista got the bad rap because of the large jump in system requirements than any other OS before it, and of course being advanced as it was still had bugs and compatibility issues. Whats sad is so many people got ripped off by buying vista again only relabeled as 7. Its the same kernal, and Vista today as updated and as fast as 7. Vista made people's PCs run like crap cause everyone had 512mb or ram, and it like to use 700+ mb, by the time 7 came around, most PC's had over a GB or ram because Vista was partly responsible in requiring more ram.
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#30 wis3boi
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Vista was a cespool of bugs and incompatabilty issues. It basically said "Whatever RAM you aren't using is wasted RAM, in my opinion, and I'm gonna use it up." It also slowed down like hell after a week of use, and eventually just got so bogged down and unstable it made the nuclear power plant in Japan look rock solid.

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#31 ronvalencia
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Windows 7 was solid at launch, Vista wasn't. Comparing the two today they are almost identical.i5750at4Ghz
Internally, they are not the same e.g. graphics memory management between the two is different.
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I don't know about you guys but I found Vista to be overly complicated. It was just menu's after menu's just getting to where you want. I remember setting up a WIFI connection for one of my friend and the whole enter wifi password was over-complicated. In xp you just click the bubble then click ssid then enter password. I had to navigate "X" amount of windows becasue it kept getting a non connect even though it was the right password. I think the biggest problem with Vista is that it "dumb-down" its advance features that most computer "XP" literate people were use to already. I coudn't even change the IP because there was no "connections" window that XP had. I searched for a good 30 mins to find it and it was right in front of me. They should've included a Classic version which changed it back how XP was. Combine that with every of my experience with Vista to be hella slow and I said no thanks: I'm not relearning things that were so simple and have it be slower at the same time.

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#33 amirzaim
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Vista is too heavy for my slim notebook and run like a dying laptop when first time use it. Also, vista puts greater burden to netbooks.
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#34 V4LENT1NE
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Its much more stable, faster and smoother than Vista was. Vista wasnt bad it was just a massive resource hog.
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#35 swehunt
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Its much more stable, faster and smoother than Vista was. Vista wasnt bad it was just a massive resource hog.V4LENT1NE
But it wasn't, people mistaken the ram usage for what it actual need. Vista was using unused ram to quicker load programs/app you use more frequently ending up in a quicker experience. But win 7 is a bit faster alright, but they share very much and are not to far apart.
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#36 kungfool69
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friendlier advertising. in australia we had TV adverts with actors that looked like real people in every day situations saying "I'm a computer, Windows 7 was my idea". they just went all out with the message trying to get people to think its something HUGELY different from vista (when in fact on the surface it really wasnt for most users). THIS time though they didnt ship it on computers with 51mb of ram and 1.6ghz mobile celerons.....

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#37 kayoticdreamz
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I don't know about you guys but I found Vista to be overly complicated. It was just menu's after menu's just getting to where you want. I remember setting up a WIFI connection for one of my friend and the whole enter wifi password was over-complicated. In xp you just click the bubble then click ssid then enter password. I had to navigate "X" amount of windows becasue it kept getting a non connect even though it was the right password. I think the biggest problem with Vista is that it "dumb-down" its advance features that most computer "XP" literate people were use to already. I coudn't even change the IP because there was no "connections" window that XP had. I searched for a good 30 mins to find it and it was right in front of me. They should've included a Classic version which changed it back how XP was. Combine that with every of my experience with Vista to be hella slow and I said no thanks: I'm not relearning things that were so simple and have it be slower at the same time.

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this is true even on windows 7 despite ive been using it as my main OS for a few months now i still look for things in places where XP had them and get lost looking for basic stuff especially anytime i open up control panel im bound to get lost looking for something anywwhere from 5-15 minutes. but on xp ill find it in 10 seconds lol. thank you for google helps me get around this. i guess its not surprising ive used XP almost exclusively for about 8 or 9 years now at least. but that said i dont like change for the sake of change. dont remenu something just to make it look new.
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#38 Velocitas8
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Vista's reputation is far worse than reality.Captain__Tripps

^This.

Vista got a ton of bad press around launch and its reputation never really recovered, despite the fact that it improved quite a bit with the service packs. Windows 7 is a re-release of Vista with a clean slate and a handful of minor improvements. I say this as an early adopter of both Vista and Win7.. Vista is hardly the disaster of an OS most people make it out to be, it just had a really rough launch.

Also, one of the main issues with Vista around launch was a lack of hardware compatability, but the blame for that one kinda falls on manufacturers for not providing drivers.. not M$.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Its much more stable, faster and smoother than Vista was. Vista wasnt bad it was just a massive resource hog.swehunt
But it wasn't, people mistaken the ram usage for what it actual need. Vista was using unused ram to quicker load programs/app you use more frequently ending up in a quicker experience. But win 7 is a bit faster alright, but they share very much and are not to far apart.

u seem to be one of the few people here who actually speak reality, rather then spouting things they heard from a friend of a friend. in my line of work selling the latest computers and laptops, i still get mis-informed people who's friend of a friend bought a first gen vista bloatware ULTRA cheap (for the time) laptop and whinged about how it was "slow". any customer who says they hate vista, i ask why, but they can never explain why (just like mac users can never explain why they love macs, they just do)

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#40 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Its much more stable, faster and smoother than Vista was. Vista wasnt bad it was just a massive resource hog.kungfool69

But it wasn't, people mistaken the ram usage for what it actual need. Vista was using unused ram to quicker load programs/app you use more frequently ending up in a quicker experience. But win 7 is a bit faster alright, but they share very much and are not to far apart.

u seem to be one of the few people here who actually speak reality, rather then spouting things they heard from a friend of a friend. in my line of work selling the latest computers and laptops, i still get mis-informed people who's friend of a friend bought a first gen vista bloatware ULTRA cheap (for the time) laptop and whinged about how it was "slow". any customer who says they hate vista, i ask why, but they can never explain why (just like mac users can never explain why they love macs, they just do)

I've heard that several times too, someone had a friend who's sisters best friend's uncle thought XP was way better because it only used 272mb of his 4GB ram... I'm usually quick to get the "next" OS, and i have to admit Vista had a couple issues from the launch but at the time it was very different from earlier Windows, the biggest problem witch got alot of bad press was in my opinion due to third part drivers, but that's not really windows fault and not correct to blame Vista for that. Win 7 have been great, even the early beta versions worked fine since most Vista drivers work with Win 7 the driver problem never occurred. I am running vista on one of the laptop's myself and it works perfectly fine for what it need to do, any laptop comes with ton's of bloatware but it has little to do with windows. :) I think many people brought a PC with Vista and had loads of bloatware/antivirus pre. installed on it, then they never game Vista a chance and installed a fresh OS, they're unknowing only concluded a fresh XP/Win 7 works better than a bloated Vista. The fact that you can upgrade from Vista to Win7 indicate they're not that different, and from my experience from both OS only strengthen that assumption.
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#41 scoots9
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Cause it's better?EZs

/thread

Windows 7 is perhaps microsofts best and Vista was among the worst.

Ok could you explain why is Vista is among the worst?

People tried to put it on their Pentium 3s so it ran badly, companies dropped the ball on getting drivers out for it, it was pretty unstable pre-SP1. It doesn't have s*** on ME though.

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#42 XaosII
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Vista's biggest problem was the completely new driver model. It forced all vendors to make new drivers in order for their hardware to work. Despite haing had over a year of DDK (driver development kit software) available BEFORE Vista's launch, most vendors where lagging or strugglign to create drivers.

At vistas' launch there wasnt that much hardware compatible, and the few that was fairly unstable due to drivers.

Windows 7 uses the exact same driver modle as Vista. In short, Windows 7 has had the advantage of letting Vista suffer through the majority of the growing pains while allowing it to focus on other thigs.

Vista was never bad. Hardware companies made it bad. NOW Vista is a fine OS. It just so happens that Windows 7 is better. Vista will forever have the stigma.

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#43 superclocked
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Vista was just an early build of Windows 7. It was never meant to be the final product.. Like Windows 2000 and XP...
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#44 GummiRaccoon
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Worst than ME or 2000? :lol:

MonsieurX

2000 was good. Watchu smoking mang?

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#45 Urworstnhtmare
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Vista was just an early build of Windows 7. It was never meant to be the final product.. Like Windows 2000 and XP...superclocked

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#46 Captain__Tripps
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Vista's biggest problem was the completely new driver model. It forced all vendors to make new drivers in order for their hardware to work. Despite haing had over a year of DDK (driver development kit software) available BEFORE Vista's launch, most vendors where lagging or strugglign to create drivers.

At vistas' launch there wasnt that much hardware compatible, and the few that was fairly unstable due to drivers.

Windows 7 uses the exact same driver modle as Vista. In short, Windows 7 has had the advantage of letting Vista suffer through the majority of the growing pains while allowing it to focus on other thigs.

Vista was never bad. Hardware companies made it bad. NOW Vista is a fine OS. It just so happens that Windows 7 is better. Vista will forever have the stigma.

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Yeah, pretty much it. Had MS not shipped Vista and went straight to 7... 7 would have "sucked" because it would have had the same driver growing pains that Vista had, and then they would have rushed Windows 8 out the door lol.
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#47 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]Vista was just an early build of Windows 7. It was never meant to be the final product.. Like Windows 2000 and XP...Urworstnhtmare

Right back at ya, lol
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#48 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Cause it's better?EZs

/thread

Windows 7 is perhaps microsofts best and Vista was among the worst.

Ok could you explain why is Vista is among the worst?

because everyone thought it was so slow because of all the underpowered pcs with junk gpus it was preinstalled on as well as pcs with under 2gb ram. Vista runs just fine on a pc with 2gb ram and decent gpu and cpu.
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#49 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Vista was just an early build of Windows 7. It was never meant to be the final product.. Like Windows 2000 and XP...superclocked

Right back at ya, lol

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#50 JohnF111
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7 is the latest OS that functioned properly when it was released, Vista required loads of updates to become stable and efficient. Although it is a good OS NOW, people still moan that Vista is crap when it's not.