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This is for System Wars. But I believe PC is the king of gaming.
FPS it has locked. RTS it has locked. RPG is in the middle but you definitely get the best experience on PC.
Hate to burst your bubble, but what the hell BF1942 server were you playing on with 255 other people? The most I remember was 64 and that seemed to be pushing it with the size of the maps. The most I've ever seen in a multiplayer game on the PC was Joint Operations at 150 although it got really laggy when the battles started to get concentrated.
I agree that PC gaming is not dead, but it's not doing anything that would make me purchase a new video card this generation and that's what component manufacturers and game developers should be focusing on. If I can play the majority of the games on the horizon on a console that's less than $300 why on earth would I throw upwards of $500 at a new GTX 280?
Hopefully when Intel enters the GPU arena they can actually get some developers on their side, something that AMD and Nvidia haven't had much luck with in the past few years. PC gaming is far from dead, but it seriously needs a shot in the arm right about now. Of the last 5 games I've purchased for the PC, 3 of them were already on consoles and a 4th one is headed to a console in the near future, so you can't say that it's not sharing the same market as the consoles.
Right now, as it stands, PC gaming is an old dog in need of some new tricks. The only thing I see on the horizon seems to be MMO this and FPS that and there's really only a few ways to mix them up, WoW and Crysis are the gold standards for their respective genres right now, and I'm terribly bored with Crysis and I've given up my WoW addiction so on the PC I'm left with games that seem sub-par by comparison and everytime something new comes along it barely does anything to shake up the formula. On the other hand, I have some great games on my consoles like MGS4, GTAIV, Warhawk, Uncharted, Crackdown, Dead Rising, R&C Future and so many others that the PC hasn't even tried to emulate. And the consoles keep getting great exclusives every month, even if they're not extremely, earthshatteringly innovative, they're still great games that are a lot of fun to play if even for a rent, the last great game I remember being released exclusively for the PC was Sins of a Solar Empire which came out over 4 months ago.
Ok, with that rant out of the way, there are some extremely good looking games headed exclusively for the PC later in the year and Spore is at the top of my list, but that leaves about a 6 month dry period in which the PC received no love from developers. I'm not a seasonal gamer, I prefer to play throughout the year and not just during the holidays when I would actually prefer to spend the time with my friends and family, so a release calendar that keeps a steady flow throughout the year would be preferable to hitting me with 12 great games in a little over a month's time.
To conclude, PC gaming is not dead, but it has gotten extremely stale in the past couple of years when compared to it's console brethren and in my eyes that's a big problem, and I hope there's a fix in the near future or I may wind up saving myself some cash and just play on consoles from now on.
dont see why you are posting this here, you are preaching to the converted my friend. also, im pretty sure max payne 1 and 2 were on consoles as well (i know for sure that at least 1st was), and im pretty sure that WoW has more players than CSS online...
the way i see it, the only area in which consoles are superioir to the PC is in their accesibility. they are easier to setup, games usually just work, they are quicker to setup, the inital price is cheaper (but overall price is more if you buy games often), you tend to get steady framrates more often etc.... PC is better in every other area... and for someone who can actually be bothered putting in the time, the accesibility issue pretty much goes out the window really.
why on earth would I throw upwards of $500 at a new GTX 280?Crzy1
actually, thats another thing that really annoys me, why do people always say "i can get a console for $300 and this GFX card is $500...." dont you understand that much cheaper video cards can still play all the latest games? you dont NEED a GTX 280 or whatever, heck, you dont even need an 8800GTX, i can play EVERYTHING at the moment on my 1 and a half year old 8800GTS 320mb, which now costs £70 retail (around $140)... i can even play crysis with all on high, i just leave AA and AF off and ocasionally put up with a frame rate drop here and there....
i understand what you are saying but the whole "PC's cost $2000+" argument is bullcrap, when i got my machine 18 months ago i spent no more than £450... and at that time the PS3 wasnt too far below that price here in the UK....(my specs are in my sig) and i havent upgraded since (apart from an extra £30 for the extra RAM)....
I mostly agree with you. The only thing that makes consoles more successful right now is that it is new. In a couple of years they won't look so "next gen" and PC will always have state-of-art technology. Also consoles are so mainstream and PCs have much more creativity like in Portal. That's what I think PC developers should use for PC games. Deep, intelligent games, with good use of the technological power of the PC, creativity, innovation and most of all good gameplay (with a mouse and a keyboard).pilouuuu2004
There will be a Portal version for consoles too.
There will be a Portal version for consoles too.
DanielDust
Yes, but the innovation happened even before on the PC with the indie game Narbacular Drop. You don't see that being done on consoles. And I'm afraid that Portal for consoles will be a dumbed down version, so console players are able to play with their atention deficit and crap joypad control.
[QUOTE="Crzy1"]why on earth would I throw upwards of $500 at a new GTX 280?marriage0
actually, thats another thing that really annoys me, why do people always say "i can get a console for $300 and this GFX card is $500...." dont you understand that much cheaper video cards can still play all the latest games? you dont NEED a GTX 280 or whatever, heck, you dont even need an 8800GTX, i can play EVERYTHING at the moment on my 1 and a half year old 8800GTS 320mb, which now costs £70 retail (around $140)... i can even play crysis with all on high, i just leave AA and AF off and ocasionally put up with a frame rate drop here and there....
i understand what you are saying but the whole "PC's cost $2000+" argument is bullcrap, when i got my machine 18 months ago i spent no more than £450... and at that time the PS3 wasnt too far below that price here in the UK....(my specs are in my sig) and i havent upgraded since (apart from an extra £30 for the extra RAM)....
This is the truth!
I have a pc I bought about 2 1/2 years ago. I just upgraded my gpu and cpu for $170 ($100 gpu and $70 cpu) and I got $70 for my old stuff so this upgrade ran me $100 in the end. I run everything but Crysis at max....
This is what I got for a $70 upgrade...these are screens fro my pc. BTW I get 60fps almost all the time in cod4 and Gears of War and about 30-45fps in Age of Conan. I also have a ps3 and 360 but they don't look like this...
EDIT: Let me just give a link to the screens...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/bsc14/Games/wargame-g4wlive2008-07-1916-12-42-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/bsc14/Games/wargame-g4wlive2008-07-1917-06-30-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/bsc14/Games/wargame-g4wlive2008-07-1922-58-13-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/bsc14/Games/wargame-g4wlive2008-07-1916-19-15-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/bsc14/Games/iw3mp2008-04-2701-10-00-45.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/bsc14/Games/iw3mp2008-04-2701-45-17-76.jpg
[QUOTE="Crzy1"]why on earth would I throw upwards of $500 at a new GTX 280?marriage0
actually, thats another thing that really annoys me, why do people always say "i can get a console for $300 and this GFX card is $500...." dont you understand that much cheaper video cards can still play all the latest games? you dont NEED a GTX 280 or whatever, heck, you dont even need an 8800GTX, i can play EVERYTHING at the moment on my 1 and a half year old 8800GTS 320mb, which now costs £70 retail (around $140)... i can even play crysis with all on high, i just leave AA and AF off and ocasionally put up with a frame rate drop here and there....
i understand what you are saying but the whole "PC's cost $2000+" argument is bullcrap, when i got my machine 18 months ago i spent no more than £450 (approx $900 at the time)... and at that time the PS3 was about the same price....(my specs are in my sig) and i havent upgraded since (apart from an extra £30 for the extra RAM)....
I was pointing at the only upgrade for myself that would bring me any kind of improvement (8800 GTX SLI@1920x1200 atm which are showing their age). I never said "Everyone should be in the market for a GTX 280". While I don't need it, when I'm playing Assassin's Creed and the frame rates drop into the teens at times or when Crysis starts to chug, I contemplate it. As far as I can tell, no one "needs" anything when it comes to gaming, it's a luxury, that's why the argument of shelling out $500 works. The reason I prefer gaming on the PC is that I can usually enjoy higher frame rates and better looks, but that seems to be a thing of the past with crappy ports being all that I see anymore. That being said, I would prefer to keep the money that I would otherwise spend upgrading if I'm winding up with the same or near the same performance on hardware than in total cost me about twice what I gave for my PS3 and 360 combined.
elitist PC gamer, much?
anyways, if PC gaming is dying, gaming is dying. if console gaming is dying, gaming is dying. i just wish Arcade gaming was more lively (HOTD4 :cry: )
I agree that PC gaming is not dead, but it's not doing anything that would make me purchase a new video card this generation and that's what component manufacturers and game developers should be focusing on. If I can play the majority of the games on the horizon on a console that's less than $300 why on earth would I throw upwards of $500 at a new GTX 280?
Crzy1
i to agree pc gaming is not dead its very much alive in fact and still have the most exclusive games coming out for it and as for soending 500$ on a gtx 280 its a terrible ripoff a 4870 offers similiar performance for 200$ less u dint have to spenda ridicously amount on a graphics card there are cheaper alternatives that will suit most ppl just fine a 4850 for example for under 200$ for example.
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