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#1 everson_rm
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I give up on buy a new rig. There's only RTS games coming out. I really enjoyed AOE and WC3 but they're making only this type of games (except Crysis and STALKER) Any thoughts?
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#2 dnuggs40
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Ya...my thought is that you are ignorant. Even just taking a meer 5 mins look into upcomming games shows there are tons of games comming out that are not RTS games...
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#3 nutcrackr
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Yeah lots of games non RTS Halo 2 BioShock quake wars Crysis Left 4 Dead Hellgate Episode 2 UT2k7 Just to name the FPSes...
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#4 Erandel
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It may seem that alot of RTS games are being released at the moment because it seems as though this part of this year has alot of "big name" games that have appeared which have created large fanfare, mainly C&C 3 and Supreme Commander. In reality, we have many other game times that are going to be released, including Crysis SPORE Hellgate: London Bioshock etc. Personally I'm looking forward to Bioshock the most, followed second by Episode 2.
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#5 Alkpaz
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Next topic given by the OP will be "Why so much FPS?"
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#6 Deihmos
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Ya...my thought is that you are ignorant. Even just taking a meer 5 mins look into upcomming games shows there are tons of games comming out that are not RTS games...dnuggs40
It's basically RTS and FPS. Those are the most popular genres.
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#7 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]Ya...my thought is that you are ignorant. Even just taking a meer 5 mins look into upcomming games shows there are tons of games comming out that are not RTS games...Deihmos
It's basically RTS and FPS. Those are the most popular genres.

Tons of other types of games are comming out. Go read the upcomming games of 2007 thread.
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#8 Deihmos
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[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]Ya...my thought is that you are ignorant. Even just taking a meer 5 mins look into upcomming games shows there are tons of games comming out that are not RTS games...dnuggs40
It's basically RTS and FPS. Those are the most popular genres.

Tons of other types of games are comming out. Go read the upcomming games of 2007 thread.

Most are RTS, RPG and FPS and more than 75% of them will suck badly. Look at the amount of games that are released every week...most are not even reviewed because they are so bad. Most are console rejects...
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#9 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]Ya...my thought is that you are ignorant. Even just taking a meer 5 mins look into upcomming games shows there are tons of games comming out that are not RTS games...Deihmos
It's basically RTS and FPS. Those are the most popular genres.

Tons of other types of games are comming out. Go read the upcomming games of 2007 thread.

Most are RTS, RPG and FPS and more than 75% of them will suck badly. Look at the amount of games that are released every week...most are not even reviewed because they are so bad. Most are console rejects...

Oh...Now most are rts, fps, *and* RPG's...added another genre to your invalid argument? And most don't get reviewed becuase they are indie games from lesser known developers, NOT becuase they suck. That's ok though, you can have a closed minded approach, afterall, you never played any of those games... "Most are console rejects..." Whooooo...care to back that up in any way shape or form? Point being, there are tone of games from all sorts of genre slated for realease this year. And while yes, many might not be AAA material, there is a lot that will be great game none the less. Thanks for your unqualified opinion :)
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#10 Johnny_Rock
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[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]Ya...my thought is that you are ignorant. Even just taking a meer 5 mins look into upcomming games shows there are tons of games comming out that are not RTS games...dnuggs40


It's basically RTS and FPS. Those are the most popular genres.



Tons of other types of games are comming out. Go read the upcomming games of 2007 thread.



Most are RTS, RPG and FPS and more than 75% of them will suck badly. Look at the amount of games that are released every week...most are not even reviewed because they are so bad. Most are console rejects...



Oh...Now most are rts, fps, *and* RPG's...added another genre to your invalid argument? And most don't get reviewed becuase they are indie games from lesser known developers, NOT becuase they suck. That's ok though, you can have a closed minded approach, afterall, you never played any of those games...

"Most are console rejects..."

Whooooo...care to back that up in any way shape or form?

Point being, there are tone of games from all sorts of genre slated for realease this year. And while yes, many might not be AAA material, there is a lot that will be great game none the less.

Thanks for your unqualified opinion :)

 

Lol...  I'll come back when it's "most are RTS, FPS, RPG, MMO, platformers, adventure games, fighting games, Sim games and solitaire. 

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#11 Deihmos
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Name me one good recent PC fighter? When I play Pc games it is always an FPS or RTS. I was never interested in playing anything else on the PC. Sports or everything else I would rather play on a console.
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#12 dnuggs40
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Name me one good recent PC fighter? When I play Pc games it is always an FPS or RTS. I was never interested in playing anything else on the PC. Sports or everything else I would rather play on a console. Deihmos
WTF does that have to do with ANYTHING? The argument here is "why are only RTS's comming out for the PC", not "Why are there no Fighters on the PC". Do you understand?
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#13 Deihmos
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He should have said why so many RTS are coming out. My point is that the majority of PC exclusives do fall into the category of FPS or the famous RTS/RPG and that is a fact. Deny it if you wish.
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#14 dnuggs40
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He should have said why so many RTS are coming out. My point is that the majority of PC exclusives do fall into the category of FPS or the famous RTS/RPG and that is a fact. Deny it if you wish.Deihmos
Again, that is irrelevent. Because a certain genre is more popular then others, does not mean there is not a lot of good games in other catagories as well, which is the essence of this thread.
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#15 Alkpaz
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Here's a question.. Why are there so many side scrollers on the NES?

Why are there so many 3rd person Action/Adventure games on the PS2?

Why are there so many Strategy games like Deadlock, Alpha Centuri, Sword of the Stars, Masters of Orion on the PC?

 I can go on.. but I think I made my point.. Games like Shadowgrounds or Fallout-esk (ex. Jagged Alliance 2) games are often overlooked..  Games like Faces of War, Joint Task Force (RTT), Close Combat etc..

 As well as subgenres like Rainbow Six Raven's Shield, SWAT, etc.

 Or hybrids like Deus Ex, Boiling Point, Stalker

 And yes your hybrid RTS/RPG games like Spellforce 2 or even the turn based RPG games like Disciples 2, Heroes of Might and Magic etc.

 And the hack and slash RPGs like Divine Divinity, Dungeon Siege, etc

 Yes there are sub-genre's and to assume that there is only "FPS's coming out" or RTSs as in this case.. is just faulty logic.. Its much like saying why is there so many Hip-Hop music on the market?  Or Alternative, etc...

 Also, if your about to tell me that the games I listed are too old to be considered "relevant" look at the two examples listed by the OP.

 

 

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#16 Deihmos
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Shadowgrounds - 6.9 Jagged Alliance is a 6 year old single player RTS Faces of War - 6.0 Joint task Force - 6.5 Basically all the games you listed were RTS.
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#17 Arcadius
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[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Shadowgrounds - 6.9 Jagged Alliance is a 6 year old single player RTS Faces of War - 6.0 Joint task Force - 6.5 Basically all the games you listed were RTS.

I think you misunderstood his post completely.
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#18 Ein-7919
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Shadowgrounds - 6.9
Jagged Alliance is a 6 year old single player RTS
Faces of War - 6.0
Joint task Force - 6.5

Basically all the games you listed were RTS. Deihmos

 

So out of the Alkpaz's list of 19 games, you pull the 4 that you want to identify as RTS's...there's just a few problems: 1) Shadowgrounds is not an RTS, 2) Jagged Alliance was not brought up, Jagged Alliance 2 was, 3) Jagged Alliance 2 (which is barely 5 years old, btw...compared to the OP's Warcraft 3 (also 5 years old) and Age of Empires (10 years old!)) is not an RTS.

The main point that I think you missed is that there are many other genre's that are available to PC gamers. Yes, there are RTSs, RPGs, FPSs, TBSs, simulations, Action games, and so on. Also, among those genres there are sub-genres. RPGs can break down to RPG/strategy (Spellforce 2), action RPG (Diablo), and character RPG (Neverwinter Nights), FPS/RPGs (Hellgate: London, System Shock 2, Bioshock)...and the list goes on.

To say that there are only RTSs on the PC is simply being close-minded and ignorant of the games that are out/coming out for the PC. So, to those that say there are only RTS/FPS/RPG coming out for the PC, I point you to the wonderful thread: reasons why it is worth to be a PCgamer in 2007...enjoy

 

EDIT - good lord!  I can't use the word c.l.a.s.s.i.f.y. on here?  Freakin' profanity filters restricting perfectly legitimate words...starting to get on my nerves. 

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RTS and FPS are the 2 most popular genres on the PC, probally the only 2 genres that are betteron the PC than consoles so theres always ALOT of them. If you look out through the history of pc gaming though it's always been more RTS games than anything else.
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#20 Marlins4life
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What i want to know is why game developers are still making MMO when we all know tht WoW is going to top everyone tht comes out. They should stop making MMO and start consentration on other genres on the PC.
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#21 dnuggs40
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What i want to know is why game developers are still making MMO when we all know tht WoW is going to top everyone tht comes out. They should stop making MMO and start consentration on other genres on the PC.Marlins4life
Easy answer. While it is unlikely any MMO in the near future will have the same success, releasing a MMO that has even a modest user base still makes them money.
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#22 Arcadius
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[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Shadowgrounds - 6.9
Jagged Alliance is a 6 year old single player RTS
Faces of War - 6.0
Joint task Force - 6.5

Basically all the games you listed were RTS. Ein-7919

 

So out of the Alkpaz's list of 19 games, you pull the 4 that you want to identify as RTS's...there's just a few problems: 1) Shadowgrounds is not an RTS, 2) Jagged Alliance was not brought up, Jagged Alliance 2 was, 3) Jagged Alliance 2 (which is barely 5 years old, btw...compared to the OP's Warcraft 3 (also 5 years old) and Age of Empires (10 years old!)) is not an RTS.

The main point that I think you missed is that there are many other genre's that are available to PC gamers. Yes, there are RTSs, RPGs, FPSs, TBSs, simulations, Action games, and so on. Also, among those genres there are sub-genres. RPGs can break down to RPG/strategy (Spellforce 2), action RPG (Diablo), and character RPG (Neverwinter Nights), FPS/RPGs (Hellgate: London, System Shock 2, Bioshock)...and the list goes on.

To say that there are only RTSs on the PC is simply being close-minded and ignorant of the games that are out/coming out for the PC. So, to those that say there are only RTS/FPS/RPG coming out for the PC, I point you to the wonderful thread: reasons why it is worth to be a PCgamer in 2007...enjoy

 

EDIT - good lord!  I can't use the word c.l.a.s.s.i.f.y. on here?  Freakin' profanity filters restricting perfectly legitimate words...starting to get on my nerves. 

I was about to say that, but I was having breakfast. :)
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#23 Deihmos
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RTS and FPS are the 2 most popular genres on the PC, probally the only 2 genres that are betteron the PC than consoles so theres always ALOT of them. If you look out through the history of pc gaming though it's always been more RTS games than anything else.Terrorantula
Finally someone that speaks the truth.
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#24 Terrorantula
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What i want to know is why game developers are still making MMO when we all know tht WoW is going to top everyone tht comes out. They should stop making MMO and start consentration on other genres on the PC.Marlins4life

More importantly why is everyone trying to copy WOW now :\

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#25 Ein-7919
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More importantly why is everyone trying to copy WOW now :\

Terrorantula

They're not...they're trying to copy Everquest.  Now tye real question should be: why are no MMO makers trying to copy the UO model of MMORPGs? 

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Consoles do not have over 100 buttons to hotkey units and other things.
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]Ya...my thought is that you are ignorant. Even just taking a meer 5 mins look into upcomming games shows there are tons of games comming out that are not RTS games...Deihmos


It's basically RTS and FPS. Those are the most popular genres.

there are some good looknig rpg's comming out this year and other genres too

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#28 the_hsoj
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[QUOTE="Terrorantula"]RTS and FPS are the 2 most popular genres on the PC, probally the only 2 genres that are betteron the PC than consoles so theres always ALOT of them. If you look out through the history of pc gaming though it's always been more RTS games than anything else.Deihmos


Finally someone that speaks the truth.

think what you want i and i didnt think there were more RTS games thatn any other game but rts i a genre that works best on pc

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#29 visceron
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I'm curious why there are so many MMO's??? Seriously how do they stay in business?? They all end up being free except for a few bigname games. I didn't really think there was that much RTS coming out. Seems like there are more FPS games than anything (which I love this fact dearly) Buy The Movies, or Spore, or a Tycoon or Sim game. Racing games are also released on PC's. Only thing thats really lacking is fighting games.
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