Why wasn't Gears 2 released on PC given Epic sold all copies of Gears of War PC?

Epic sold all the copies they made for Gears of War. It seems like there is quite a demand for the PC version of Gears of War. There is a bidding frenzy on eBay for Gears of War PC, it's easily going for $20-$25 a pop which I consider pretty high for a 3 year old game. I know there were 25-30 copies of the PC version of Gears of War at my local Best Buy store and they sold all their copies.

So, if Gears was pretty successful on the PC why didn't they release Gears 2 for PC? Is this another case of Epic being console w*ores?

It wasn't successful, it sold very poorly from what I understand. Epic was also concerned by the high rate of piracy of the PC version.

It wasn't successful, it sold very poorly from what I understand. Epic was also concerned by the high rate of piracy of the PC version.

JangoWuzHere

....And what evidence do you have that it sold poorly on the PC? If it did so then why is there a bidding frenzy on e-bay for this game and why did all the copies at my local Best Buy were all sold out. It seems to me there is quite a demand for the game.

You won't see Gears of War on retail shelves anywhere. Epic screwed up big time, the digital certificate was set for an extremely early date. All copies of the game were unplayable untill a patch was released by epic. Instead rereleasing new retail copys, they decided to just simply stop making the PC version.

The only places that you can find Gears of war on the PC is from a source like Ebay or the game for windows live digital market.

Your illusion that the game sold great is false

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It wasn't successful, it sold very poorly from what I understand. Epic was also concerned by the high rate of piracy of the PC version.

Xtasy26

....And what evidence do you have that it sold poorly on the PC?

Probably because Cliffy B is an arrogant, condescending... well I will stop there.

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

It wasn't successful, it sold very poorly from what I understand. Epic was also concerned by the high rate of piracy of the PC version.

Super-Trooper

....And what evidence do you have that it sold poorly on the PC?

All the inital copies being sold. Not being able to find any new copies of Gears of War PC. Bidding frenzy on ebay. But do agree with Jango that the Epic botched the PC release by not releasing more copies. But there is a healthy demand for it.

All the inital copies being sold. Not being able to find any new copies of Gears of War PC. Bidding frenzy on ebay. But do agree with Jango that the Epic botched the PC release by not releasing more copies. But there is a healthy demand for it.

Xtasy26

You guys should know by now how Epic and Microsoft feel about the PC gaming market.

The pc version of Gears of War was a bug ladden mess. Most notably when you exited the game it erased all your save games making you restart from the beginning every time you played it. Epic whines about piracy to distract people from the fact they can't fix basic bugs.

The pc version of Gears of War was a bug ladden mess. Most notably when you exited the game it erased all your save games making you restart from the beginning every time you played it. Epic whines about piracy to distract people from the fact they can't fix basic bugs.

fenriz275

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]All the inital copies being sold. Not being able to find any new copies of Gears of War PC. Bidding frenzy on ebay. But do agree with Jango that the Epic botched the PC release by not releasing more copies. But there is a healthy demand for it.

Super-Trooper

Yeah, and there was no digital copy to be found in 2007. How dumb can you be? They basically cut off 30/40/50%(dont really know what it was back then) of their potential sales base. I would be curious to hear some sales numbers. If it really sold as poorly as they claim, tell us some numbers.

Fortunately the original game apparently sold poorly on the P.C.. This caused Epic to realize that the P.C. has a strong immunity to bad games and hence they stopped trying to infect us with crappy shooters.

Every company that cries about pirating, makes really terrible buggy games that sell poorly.

Do you see blizzard or valve complaining about pirates? no

I'm amused by the amount of fanboyism in this thread :P

But speaking seriously, I believe it has to do with Microsoft's policy to secure more Xbox 360 exclusives (so that people buy more 360s).

I'm amused by the amount of fanboyism in this thread :P

But speaking seriously, I believe it has to do with Microsoft's policy to secure more Xbox 360 exclusives (so that people buy more 360s).

nameless12345

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i guess it is becuz the multiplayer for pc is kinda gay compared to 360..

hurtix

Every company that cries about pirating, makes really terrible buggy games that sell poorly.

Do you see blizzard or valve complaining about pirates? no

GummiRaccoon

i guess it is becuz the multiplayer for pc is kinda gay compared to 360..

hurtix

Hahahahahah...After all the comments on this page you thought that is only normal to come up with something like that?Ahahahahhahaha...you made me LoL...but at the same time i feel sorry for you...

i guess it is becuz the multiplayer for pc is kinda gay compared to 360..

hurtix

Considering it had more multiplayer modes, more players, more maps and a map editor on the PC, if one was more um... gay than the other it wasnt the PC version.

Probably because Cliffy B is an arrogant, condescending... well I will stop there.

Falconoffury

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

I'm amused by the amount of fanboyism in this thread :P

But speaking seriously, I believe it has to do with Microsoft's policy to secure more Xbox 360 exclusives (so that people buy more 360s).

Krelian-co

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Fortunately the original game apparently sold poorly on the P.C.. This caused Epic to realize that the P.C. has a strong immunity to bad games and hence they stopped trying to infect us with crappy shooters.

Barbariser

You won't see Gears of War on retail shelves anywhere. Epic screwed up big time, the digital certificate was set for an extremely early date. All copies of the game were unplayable untill a patch was released by epic. Instead rereleasing new retail copys, they decided to just simply stop making the PC version.

The only places that you can find Gears of war on the PC is from a source like Ebay or the game for windows live digital market.

Your illusion that the game sold great is false

JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="Barbariser"]

Fortunately the original game apparently sold poorly on the P.C.. This caused Epic to realize that the P.C. has a strong immunity to bad games and hence they stopped trying to infect us with crappy shooters.

Cranler

Coupled with the fact that it is a crappy game.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Barbariser"]

Fortunately the original game apparently sold poorly on the P.C.. This caused Epic to realize that the P.C. has a strong immunity to bad games and hence they stopped trying to infect us with crappy shooters.

Coupled with the fact that it is a crappy game.

The pc version of Gears of War was a bug ladden mess. Most notably when you exited the game it erased all your save games making you restart from the beginning every time you played it. Epic whines about piracy to distract people from the fact they can't fix basic bugs.

fenriz275

This problem is not exclusive to Gears of War for the PC. Dirt 2 on the PC had the same problem where my autosave files were no longer detected, now I have to do all these crap to make it work again. The problem is with Windows Live. It's a piece of crap platform.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]All the inital copies being sold. Not being able to find any new copies of Gears of War PC. Bidding frenzy on ebay. But do agree with Jango that the Epic botched the PC release by not releasing more copies. But there is a healthy demand for it.

Super-Trooper

It's $5-$10 dollars now but what are the prices when the bidding starts to end. I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches $15-$20. At least when I brought it last fall there was bidding frenzy for it. It easily reached close to $20. And the fact that it can't be found, doesn't that mean that it sold well? I seen plenty of copies of old games lying around at places like Best Buy that hasn't sold yet. At my local Best Buy store they had 25-30 copies AT LEAST and they sold every one of them. That probably doesn't even include the ones they replaced after it sold out. That's just at my local Best Buy store, how about all over America and the rest of the world for that matter?

Is there even actual numbers of the sales? Looks to me they sold all the copies they made which is not bad.

[QUOTE="fenriz275"]

The pc version of Gears of War was a bug ladden mess. Most notably when you exited the game it erased all your save games making you restart from the beginning every time you played it. Epic whines about piracy to distract people from the fact they can't fix basic bugs.

Elann2008

Well I didn't have issues like you did except for the save game gone missing which I fixed by renaming some saved files to get it back. I downloaded all the latests patches before I started playing. I played the game in FULL HD 1080P with 8XEQAA and 16X FSAA on my HD 6950 (flashed to a HD 6970) with no graphical issues whatsoever. It looked great at 1080P at those settings. That's one of the reasons I would like to see Gears 2 on the PC so I don't have to buy a Xbox 360 and play it on Xbox 360's lame 720P resolution with crappy FSAA. Other than the save issue which I blame it on Windows Live because the same crap happened to Dirt 2, I think it was a well done port.

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[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]All the inital copies being sold. Not being able to find any new copies of Gears of War PC. Bidding frenzy on ebay. But do agree with Jango that the Epic botched the PC release by not releasing more copies. But there is a healthy demand for it.

Xtasy26

It's $5-$10 dollars now but what are the prices when the bidding starts to end. I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches $15-$20. At least when I brought it last fall there was bidding frenzy for it. It easily reached close to $20. And the fact that it can't be found, doesn't that mean that it sold well? I seen plenty of copies of old games lying around at places like Best Buy that hasn't sold yet. At my local Best Buy store they had 25-30 copies AT LEAST and they sold every one of them. That probably doesn't even include the ones they replaced after it sold out. That's just at my local Best Buy store, how about all over America and the rest of the world for that matter?

Is there even actual numbers of the sales? Looks to me they sold all the copies they made which is not bad.

Did you skim over my post, or are you in complete denial here?

It didn't sell out, Epic games had to pull all of their copys off shelves. You can't sell a game that is unplayable.

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[QUOTE="Cranler"] A year late, no dedicated servers and being released the same day as COD 4 had nothing to do with it right? We're getting Bulletstorm which is total crap. It would have been successful if it was released same time as 360 version and had dedi servers. Your lying to yourself if you think otherwise.Cranler

Coupled with the fact that it is a crappy game.

Yes, they do.

Look at CoD

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[QUOTE="Super-Trooper"]

The game came out in Nov 6, 2007, if anything the fact that it can't be found in a store speaks volumes for it selling poorly. When a game sells poorly there is no reason for a publisher to continue to manufacture copys and ship them out to retail to just sit there. I can also find tons of copys on ebay for 5-10 dollars with only 1-2 bids...

JangoWuzHere

It's $5-$10 dollars now but what are the prices when the bidding starts to end. I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches $15-$20. At least when I brought it last fall there was bidding frenzy for it. It easily reached close to $20. And the fact that it can't be found, doesn't that mean that it sold well? I seen plenty of copies of old games lying around at places like Best Buy that hasn't sold yet. At my local Best Buy store they had 25-30 copies AT LEAST and they sold every one of them. That probably doesn't even include the ones they replaced after it sold out. That's just at my local Best Buy store, how about all over America and the rest of the world for that matter?

Is there even actual numbers of the sales? Looks to me they sold all the copies they made which is not bad.

Did you skim over my post, or are you in complete denial here?

It didn't sell out, Epic games had to pull all of their copys off shelves. You can't sell a game that in unplayable.

Yet Epic took no responsibility for this, they just blame piracy and call it a day... Id be curious how many it sold, never even seen an educated guess by anyone.

Epic sold all the copies they made for Gears of War. It seems like there is quite a demand for the PC version of Gears of War. There is a bidding frenzy on eBay for Gears of War PC, it's easily going for $20-$25 a pop which I consider pretty high for a 3 year old game. I know there were 25-30 copies of the PC version of Gears of War at my local Best Buy store and they sold all their copies.

So, if Gears was pretty successful on the PC why didn't they release Gears 2 for PC? Is this another case of Epic being console w*ores?

Xtasy26

Wow, didn't realize there was so much hatred of Gears by PC users. Honestly, Gears of War 2 (and soon 3) and the Halo series are the only the reason I still own an Xbox. As for why it didn't do well on PC, Microsoft an Epic put together a buggy port and didn't care about the PC version at all. Also, the game required a Live Gold membership to play online, which many PC gamers didn't have and weren't going to pay an extra $50/year. It's really a shame Epic has left behind its roots on PC, even though they're bringing Bulletstorm to PC. I only hope that they don't screw it up.