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#1 RobboElRobbo
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I played through Warhead, and got maybe halfway through Crysis and stopped playing. The only thing good is the graphics...why is this game a 9.5? Shooting guys is boring, the game doesn't make good use of its physics engine, and the missions are just lame.

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#2 Doom_HellKnight
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Because it's your opinion. I personally thought it was a solid game in (almost) all aspects.

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#3 knight0151
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This game is just GREAT.

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#4 killzoik
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lol so ur saying all game were u shoot ppl r boring =) ok ur opinion , so i guess ur not buyin cod mw2 then?

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#5 RobboElRobbo
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lol so ur saying all game were u shoot ppl r boring =) ok ur opinion , so i guess ur not buyin cod mw2 then?

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How the hell did you come to that conclusion?

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#6 naval
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lol, shooting guys is boring, you d realize it's a fps --- where s == shooter ?
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#7 deactivated-601cc8c28f97e
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It is a garbage game, just like call of duty 4. Crysis is overrated like crazy, its extremely boring. Only thing I liked was being a camo sniper. Call of duty 4 takes absolutely no skill and you have everybody thinking they're good.

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[QUOTE="killzoik"]

lol so ur saying all game were u shoot ppl r boring =) ok ur opinion , so i guess ur not buyin cod mw2 then?

RobboElRobbo

How the hell did you come to that conclusion?

" Shooting guys is boring"

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I personally liked that I could destroy things. I spent most my time using cheats to make myself super strong, I'd toss people through walls and pretend I was a big man....

good times.

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#10 Dogswithguns
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Turn up your sound system(with a big sub-woofer), then it gets pretty good.... it's a good FPS, that's about it.
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#11 MorbidToaster
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Crysis is pretty, other than that...it's got nothing going for it. It's fun, but if I wanted to feel overpowered on an island, I'd play Just Cause again.

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#12 teardropmina
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why is this game a 9.5?

RobboElRobbo

although you have 2700+ posts, it's obvious that you rarely vist this forum; otherwise you should've known why Crysis gets a 9.5 (and some people still think that it's underrated).

at any event, it's a good way to gather a lengthy, "popular" thread under your belt.

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Because the dynamic nature of the nanosuit coupled with the large and highly interactive environments makes it one of the most progressive first person shooters this 'gen'.
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I played through Warhead, and got maybe halfway through Crysis and stopped playing. The only thing good is the graphics...why is this game a 9.5? Shooting guys is boring, the game doesn't make good use of its physics engine, and the missions are just lame.

RobboElRobbo

There's some reasons.

First of all, it gives you certain amount of freedom: you can step some meters -hundreds- from the way that is supposed that you must track, you can choose between a good amount of weapons with a lot of different attachments, you can choose different modes of fire, and you can use the suit powers to play in a different ways of evade totally these powers. Is your choice. And is one of the few fps in that stealth works -no, stealth didn't work in Far Cry-.

Second, it has a very decent I.A. Yes, there's some glitches and if you combo stealth+silencers the KPA turn to a idiotic and stunned mob of chickens, but if you play without the camouflage in delta you will find that they are capable antagonist, that flank, call for reinforcements, search for your last movements, makes a good use of grenades, etc. They don't "cheat", they don't infinite respawn, etc.

Third, the attention to detail. You talk about bad implemented physics but previous than Crysis I haven't seen a humvee driver lost the control because you blow the tyres. You can explode the tank fuels, you can survive a great fall if you hit in the water instead of the ground, there's tons of animals in the maps (kiwis, frogs, turtles, sharks... ) and you can affect with your shoots a lot of items in your environments. Those things are unnecessary to the fps mechanics, but the work invested in makes the game much more vivid, realistic and inmersive. In some of the most hyped fps the attention to detail is pathetic.

Fourth, there are vehicles, you can use them if you want, ant the handle is great. Is not the main attraction, but is a valuable tool in your arsenal, and can be a capital part in the multiplayer (Power Struggle mode).

Fifth, the gunplay is great. Not as great as a UT deathmatch or maybe as a F.E.A.R. Combat, but it's at year's light from the tedious shooting in Bioshock or the gravity-gun oriented Half-Life 2.

But if the game doesn't reach you expectation and you didn't like it is fine. In matter of tastes, any argument is valid. But even if you don't like the game the game is good. I don't like Rolls Royce -Aston Martin or Bentley are more in my tastes- but I 'll never say that RR makes bad cars. The production values in Crysis and Warhead are very high.

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#15 biggest_loser
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Shooting guys is boring yet you have a MW2 banner on your profile? Great game: lots of improvisation, variation, graphics, play styles. Its not a regular FPS.
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#16 -clippa-
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Try playing it as a stealth game if you're not having fun with it, that's how I played it and I thought it was really good, went a bit downhill when the aliens turned up, all told, but still a cracking game.

On an unrelated note, I checked out the band in your sig and they are god awful :D

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#17 Ikavnieks
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I think OP is trying to say it's a very basic shooter, apart from the destruction.. This isn't my opinion, but if it weren't for the graphics, the game wouldn't have done so well.
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#18 Treflis
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I can sort of agree, I don't really find Crysis to be all that either but it is a pretty solid FPS with stunning visuals. But that said I can pick out FPS that I think is my better due to my taste.
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#19 morpheus077
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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

I played through Warhead, and got maybe halfway through Crysis and stopped playing. The only thing good is the graphics...why is this game a 9.5? Shooting guys is boring, the game doesn't make good use of its physics engine, and the missions are just lame.

Ondoval

There's some reasons.

First of all, it gives you certain amount of freedom: you can step some meters -hundreds- from the way that is supposed that you must track, you can choose between a good amount of weapons with a lot of different attachments, you can choose different modes of fire, and you can use the suit powers to play in a different ways of evade totally these powers. Is your choice. And is one of the few fps in that stealth works -no, stealth didn't work in Far Cry-.

Second, it has a very decent I.A. Yes, there's some glitches and if you combo stealth+silencers the KPA turn to a idiotic and stunned mob of chickens, but if you play without the camouflage in delta you will find that they are capable antagonist, that flank, call for reinforcements, search for your last movements, makes a good use of grenades, etc. They don't "cheat", they don't infinite respawn, etc.

Third, the attention to detail. You talk about bad implemented physics but previous than Crysis I haven't seen a humvee driver lost the control because you blow the tyres. You can explode the tank fuels, you can survive a great fall if you hit in the water instead of the ground, there's tons of animals in the maps (kiwis, frogs, turtles, sharks... ) and you can affect with your shoots a lot of items in your environments. Those things are unnecessary to the fps mechanics, but the work invested in makes the game much more vivid, realistic and inmersive. In some of the most hyped fps the attention to detail is pathetic.

Fourth, there are vehicles, you can use them if you want, ant the handle is great. Is not the main attraction, but is a valuable tool in your arsenal, and can be a capital part in the multiplayer (Power Struggle mode).

Fifth, the gunplay is great. Not as great as a UT deathmatch or maybe as a F.E.A.R. Combat, but it's at year's light from the tedious shooting in Bioshock or the gravity-gun oriented Half-Life 2.

But if the game doesn't reach you expectation and you didn't like it is fine. In matter of tastes, any argument is valid. But even if you don't like the game the game is good. I don't like Rolls Royce -Aston Martin or Bentley are more in my tastes- but I 'll never say that RR makes bad cars. The production values in Crysis and Warhead are very high.

you said it all man*teary eyes*

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#20 RobboElRobbo
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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

I played through Warhead, and got maybe halfway through Crysis and stopped playing. The only thing good is the graphics...why is this game a 9.5? Shooting guys is boring, the game doesn't make good use of its physics engine, and the missions are just lame.

Ondoval

There's some reasons.

First of all, it gives you certain amount of freedom: you can step some meters -hundreds- from the way that is supposed that you must track, you can choose between a good amount of weapons with a lot of different attachments, you can choose different modes of fire, and you can use the suit powers to play in a different ways of evade totally these powers. Is your choice. And is one of the few fps in that stealth works -no, stealth didn't work in Far Cry-.

Second, it has a very decent I.A. Yes, there's some glitches and if you combo stealth+silencers the KPA turn to a idiotic and stunned mob of chickens, but if you play without the camouflage in delta you will find that they are capable antagonist, that flank, call for reinforcements, search for your last movements, makes a good use of grenades, etc. They don't "cheat", they don't infinite respawn, etc.

Third, the attention to detail. You talk about bad implemented physics but previous than Crysis I haven't seen a humvee driver lost the control because you blow the tyres. You can explode the tank fuels, you can survive a great fall if you hit in the water instead of the ground, there's tons of animals in the maps (kiwis, frogs, turtles, sharks... ) and you can affect with your shoots a lot of items in your environments. Those things are unnecessary to the fps mechanics, but the work invested in makes the game much more vivid, realistic and inmersive. In some of the most hyped fps the attention to detail is pathetic.

Fourth, there are vehicles, you can use them if you want, ant the handle is great. Is not the main attraction, but is a valuable tool in your arsenal, and can be a capital part in the multiplayer (Power Struggle mode).

Fifth, the gunplay is great. Not as great as a UT deathmatch or maybe as a F.E.A.R. Combat, but it's at year's light from the tedious shooting in Bioshock or the gravity-gun oriented Half-Life 2.

But if the game doesn't reach you expectation and you didn't like it is fine. In matter of tastes, any argument is valid. But even if you don't like the game the game is good. I don't like Rolls Royce -Aston Martin or Bentley are more in my tastes- but I 'll never say that RR makes bad cars. The production values in Crysis and Warhead are very high.

You make a good point. I guess the game just isn't for me. They could have done so much more with the physics engine and details but they didn't. When you shoot people there isn't much blood at all, it just looks fake. I love the environments a lot but there's just something wrong with the missions. Also, the graphics feel very un-optimized. It's running at 60fps, then all of a sudden it's at 25.

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#21 RobboElRobbo
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I personally liked that I could destroy things. I spent most my time using cheats to make myself super strong, I'd toss people through walls and pretend I was a big man....

good times.

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Yeah... that's a really fun :P

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#22 RobboElRobbo
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On an unrelated note, I checked out the band in your sig and they are god awful :D-clippa-

You can't tell me you you hate everything about they're music. Most people hate the death vocals, but the instruments are just amazing. Tegernako is the best song in my opinion.

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#23 lpjazzman220
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Try playing it as a stealth game if you're not having fun with it, that's how I played it and I thought it was really good, went a bit downhill when the aliens turned up, all told, but still a cracking game.

On an unrelated note, I checked out the band in your sig and they are god awful :D

-clippa-

i agree....i loved the games until the aliens.....then i got really bored. after i beat the games the first time, then i only played until the aliens came, cause i really hated the aliens....but i did like the way the aliens were completely different than any others......i am very much the ut 99 guy, this game is okay to change it up, but i couldnt get back into it.

my real beefs are the shootin....i guess i just cant aim, but headshots r impossible. that and the aliens....kinda killed the game for me

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#24 -clippa-
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[QUOTE="-clippa-"]On an unrelated note, I checked out the band in your sig and they are god awful :DRobboElRobbo

You can't tell me you you hate everything about they're music. Most people hate the death vocals, but the instruments are just amazing. Tegernako is the best song in my opinion.

Yeah, I don't dislike everything, I am allergic to roaring so you might be right about the vocals :) Check out cardiacs, best band ever ever :D

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#25 polarwrath11
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I hated crysis because its slow and tactical, so I gave myself unlimited ammo and the ability to pick up as many weapons as possible, as well as putting the energy consumption of the suit way down and giving myself double health and totally converted this game into a shoot em up! now i love it. gave my cpu a lil overclock to try and boost the frame rate too!
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You make a good point. I guess the game just isn't for me. They could have done so much more with the physics engine and details but they didn't. When you shoot people there isn't much blood at all, it just looks fake. I love the environments a lot but there's just something wrong with the missions. Also, the graphics feel very un-optimized. It's running at 60fps, then all of a sudden it's at 25.

RobboElRobbo

It always massively confuses me when people say Crysis is horribly optimised. The amount of stuff going on behind the scenes in this game is phenomenal. The graphics, the AI calculations, the physics... even 2 years on they're still better than anything that has been released so far, and yet people insist the game is unoptimised simply because it occasionally dips into a low frame rate on their current-gen hardware.

I mean, when a game looks as good as this, are you really holding the fact that it occasionally dips below 25fps against it??! Please...

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#27 RobboElRobbo
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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

You make a good point. I guess the game just isn't for me. They could have done so much more with the physics engine and details but they didn't. When you shoot people there isn't much blood at all, it just looks fake. I love the environments a lot but there's just something wrong with the missions. Also, the graphics feel very un-optimized. It's running at 60fps, then all of a sudden it's at 25.

broken_bass_bin

It always massively confuses me when people say Crysis is horribly optimised. The amount of stuff going on behind the scenes in this game is phenomenal. The graphics, the AI calculations, the physics... even 2 years on they're still better than anything that has been released so far, and yet people insist the game is unoptimised simply because it occasionally dips into a low frame rate on their current-gen hardware.

I mean, when a game looks as good as this, are you really holding the fact that it occasionally dips below 25fps against it??! Please...

Frequently. It would be better if it stayed at 30fps the whole time, no change. Inconsistency is a huge pet peeve of mine...

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#28 chandu83
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Unbelievable. I cannot imagine what's not to like in that game. Oh well...you can't please everyone, but I felt PC gamers in general have been really whiny about this game. Saying that Far Cry looked better! Good god...
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#29 Count_MarCus
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who says crysis isgood? it's just a cinematic game

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#30 Macutchi
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Unbelievable. I cannot imagine what's not to like in that game. chandu83

same here, one of my all time favourite shooters

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#31 chandu83
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who says crysis isgood? it's just a cinematic game

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Most PC gamers accuse Crysis of being a good game.

[QUOTE="chandu83"]Unbelievable. I cannot imagine what's not to like in that game. Macutchi

same here, one of my all time favourite shooters


Finally someone who is normal. This thread needed this.
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I didn't feel it brought anything special to the table other than the graphics. And some of the "features" felt very superficial and unimportant. "Zomg physics! If you shoot the tree in the middle enough it tears in two!" I never had that happen in a real firefight, only when you were intentionally shooting a tree for that effect did I see it collapse. I think if it weren't for the graphics, Crysis would have been just another generic FPS.
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#33 FloydianBrad
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Christ... I have never played a more basically enjoyable FPS than Crysis. It was the nanosuit, the way it let you play the way you want. Open ended levels to use each of your powers and give your personal play preference a chance to shine. Whether you want to stealth snipe, rush with shotgun, throw a badguy into a group of 4 and take them all down while on the ground. The game gives you arguably the most choices in approaches to different situations since Deus Ex. No, the story isn't great, and the atmosphere is pretty standard. It's the gameplay itself that counts.

It's like watching Arnold Swarzeneggar or Sylvester Stalone movies. No, they're not technically great, but damn do they put on a good show, and damn if its not fun to watch them.

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#34 chandu83
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I didn't feel it brought anything special to the table other than the graphics. And some of the "features" felt very superficial and unimportant. "Zomg physics! If you shoot the tree in the middle enough it tears in two!" I never had that happen in a real firefight, only when you were intentionally shooting a tree for that effect did I see it collapse. I think if it weren't for the graphics, Crysis would have been just another generic FPS.stoutlad
If it weren't for the story, physics and graphics, Half-Life 2 would have been a generic FPS. Without the choices in gameplay Deus Ex would have been boring, without the rocket launchers Quake 3 wouldn't have been fun.
I fail to see your point here.
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[QUOTE="stoutlad"]I didn't feel it brought anything special to the table other than the graphics. And some of the "features" felt very superficial and unimportant. "Zomg physics! If you shoot the tree in the middle enough it tears in two!" I never had that happen in a real firefight, only when you were intentionally shooting a tree for that effect did I see it collapse. I think if it weren't for the graphics, Crysis would have been just another generic FPS.chandu83
If it weren't for the story, physics and graphics, Half-Life 2 would have been a generic FPS. Without the choices in gameplay Deus Ex would have been boring, without the rocket launchers Quake 3 wouldn't have been fun.
I fail to see your point here.

The point is that I feel Crysis didn't do as much to establish itself as the lord of FPS's as all of you would lead people to believe. I'll give it graphical prowess, but beyond that nothing else made me say "wow." And "generic fps" isn't the insult you think it is. Think about it: Pretty much all that can be done in a first person shooter has been done. Is that to say that all fps will forever be boring? No. But they won't be fresh or revolutionary until they do something NEW. I got Crysis, played through it once all the way since I had already bought it, and have since uninstalled it and never touched it again. It just wasn't fun for me like HL2 (which I still revisit) or other previous FPS

tl;dr: Crysis brought nice graphics to the table, but that's about all it did. It didn't have the immersion factor for me *at all*, and I fail to see why people revere it. Please explain to me.

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#36 sub-raid
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I played through Warhead, and got maybe halfway through Crysis and stopped playing. The only thing good is the graphics...why is this game a 9.5? Shooting guys is boring, the game doesn't make good use of its physics engine, and the missions are just lame.

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Then this game is not for you.
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Its a sandbox shooter. You aren't going to get the same kick out of it like you are with COD and HL.
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#38 get-ka12
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It goes without saying that the graphics for Crysis are extremely ambitious, moreso than pretty much anything on the market, which holding the crown for graphics alone keeps the hype there at least. The devs of the game obviously wanted it to take forever for the graphics to become obsolete or dated.
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#39 dakan45
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Normally i would agree with you 100% . But if you come to think about it what is and its not overratted? I mean yeah crysis is very overatted, but if you compare it with halo and gears of war.... Why are those games so highly rated? Because they represent x360. Also sometimes its about hype, eg gta iv when san andreas is clearly so much more. Or even graphics, eg: Fear. Crysis is rated so high for those reasons, dont deny that because its a fact. But the thing is that crysis ratings can be justified because the game is advanced the graphics and the physics are more advanced than any other shooter out there. However i do agree that the physics could have been used better and i think its obvious that the developers focus on polishing the graphics instead of polishing the gameplay. If you ask me Far cry was better, the levels were better and not lame like crysis and the combat felt better, for some reason the combat in crysis didnt feel solid, it felt kinda meh for time ti time for a fps rated with 9.5 (grabs flame shield).... and yes i prefer cod4 because the combat felt more solid for a first person shooter, and the story and levels were more interesting....(activates flame forcefield) :lol:
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#40 jpph
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2 reasons:

nano suit and customisable weapons, these combined let you tackle any situation in a huge variety of ways. hell, i dont think you have to kill anyone if your careful enough.

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#41 leonjuretic
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Crysis is good because, when you hide in a house in Crysis, the house kills you.

I like the Physics in the game, also graphics thats about it

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#42 1kalli1
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I love crysis because it is so highly replayable, the story is ok, the graphics are awesome and the gameplay is awesome.
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#43 deactivated-5ee322a396e26
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i like crysis cuz its purty and stuff

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#44 KeithTobberman
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To me, Crysis was a purely graphical experience and nothing more for the first 3/4 or so of the game. It gets better though.

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#45 gamerguy845
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I played through Warhead, and got maybe halfway through Crysis and stopped playing. The only thing good is the graphics...why is this game a 9.5? Shooting guys is boring, the game doesn't make good use of its physics engine, and the missions are just lame.

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It's your problem for playing it like a shooter. I would encourage you to finish the game, then next time around, play the game as creatively as possible. In the first Crysis there was this huge cliff, and then by the side of that cliff there was a road with lots of NK. I acutally climbed that entire cliff using strength jump. Be creative!
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#46 MorbidToaster
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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

[QUOTE="-clippa-"]On an unrelated note, I checked out the band in your sig and they are god awful :D-clippa-

You can't tell me you you hate everything about they're music. Most people hate the death vocals, but the instruments are just amazing. Tegernako is the best song in my opinion.

Yeah, I don't dislike everything, I am allergic to roaring so you might be right about the vocals :) Check out cardiacs, best band ever ever :D

I LOVE stuff like this, although the vocals are a bit of a turn off, I'll be downloading some of this. Nuclear Blast turns out some amazing artists. EDIT: Anything with bagpipes, I can listen to it. And the song Omnos is REALLY good. No crappy vocals there.

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#47 Macutchi
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I'll be downloading some of this.

MorbidToaster

legally?

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#48 MorbidToaster
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[QUOTE="MorbidToaster"]

I'll be downloading some of this.

Macutchi

legally?

Well, I actually just found it at my local library. So yes, I'm going to rip it legally. :D
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#49 Macutchi
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[QUOTE="Macutchi"]

[QUOTE="MorbidToaster"]

I'll be downloading some of this.

MorbidToaster

legally?

Well, I actually just found it at my local library. So yes, I'm going to rip it legally. :D

oh ok i dont even know if thats legal:P

i just despise music pirates. far, far more than computer game pirates

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#50 HOMIE_G64
Member since 2005 • 1482 Posts
I personally was not too fond of Crysis. While it was better than your run-off-the-mill linear shoot-em-up, I found the non-linear gameplay of the old FPS more engaging and thought-provoking. Crysis was really an almost-but-not-quite shooter. It definitely had potential, but some very poor design choices that I have ranted against in almost every one of my posts about Crysis just kills it.