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#1 brandontwb
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So I'm going to get a mid size tower with ATX so I think physically that It will fit, but apparently you need to change the voltage and the timings. Exactly what am I supposed to set it to? I understand it's different for every system but how do you know if you set them right?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227320

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#2 kilerchese
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The proper settings for the RAM are in the Specifications tab on the right.

The RAM runs at DDR3-1600, it'll probably be downclocked to DDR3-1333 or 1066 when you first turn on your PC.

The timings run at 7-7-7-19 at 1.9v.

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=0AvsBb7WBZe2i9zK

Click the download tab, select any OS, click the expand button next to Manual, download the manual.

In the english manual, it's page 2-10. This is where you will change all these settings.

On page 2-11, in the english manual, it shows the RAM settings that can be changed.

You'll set,

DRAM Frequency to 1600

Memory Overvoltage to 1.9v

Now DRAM Timing/Configuration

TCL - 7
TCRD - 7
TRP - 7
TRAS - 19
Everything else auto.

All of this will be found under the Advanced tab in the BIOS in the submenu JumperFree Configuration.

This is also where you will do CPU overclocking if you want to do that.

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#3 brandontwb
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The proper settings for the RAM are in the Specifications tab on the right.

The RAM runs at DDR3-1600, it'll probably be downclocked to DDR3-1333 or 1066 when you first turn on your PC.

The timings run at 7-7-7-19 at 1.9v.

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=0AvsBb7WBZe2i9zK

Click the download tab, select any OS, click the expand button next to Manual, download the manual.

In the english manual, it's page 2-10. This is where you will change all these settings.

On page 2-11, in the english manual, it shows the RAM settings that can be changed.

You'll set,

DRAM Frequency to 1600

Memory Overvoltage to 1.9v

Now DRAM Timing/Configuration

TCL - 7
TCRD - 7
TRP - 7
TRAS - 19
Everything else auto.

All of this will be found under the Advanced tab in the BIOS in the submenu JumperFree Configuration.

This is also where you will do CPU overclocking if you want to do that.

kilerchese

Thanks for the response, you answered my question very well. I want to keep it at 1333 because I heard OC on my motherboard and CPU wont work well. So that's in the manual too right? The main concern is if it will run in the first place, and if my motherboard and CPU can run it well..

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All RAM have settings that will be used for first boot up. After that, if you want to them to run at rated speeds you have to go into the BIOS.

The settings that use for first boot up are meant so that the RAM can be used in any motherboard without causing problems during first boot up or installation.

Also, NEVER OC before you've even installed the OS. It can cause problems during installation that can manifest themselves when your using Windows. Doing this usually causes you to have to reinstall the OS from scratch.

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#5 brandontwb
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All RAM have settings that will be used for first boot up. After that, if you want to them to run at rated speeds you have to go into the BIOS.

The settings that use for first boot up are meant so that the RAM can be used in any motherboard without causing problems during first boot up or installation.

Also, NEVER OC before you've even installed the OS. It can cause problems during installation that can manifest themselves when your using Windows. Doing this usually causes you to have to reinstall the OS from scratch.

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Okay, I read that for these sticks, you need to change the voltage, even for the standard speed, I guess that is okay, I just need to find out exactly what I set it at (I think it's 1.9V, but again, I don't know if my motherboard could handle it, so I'm considering slower DDR3 RAM). I also understand that it's best to boot your computer for the first time with only one stick in the motherboard..
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The maximum RAM voltage for your motherboard is 2.2 volts, minimum is 1.5 volts. So 1.9 volts is in a safe range. Some of the older DDR3 RAM, when it was first coming out, required up to 2.3v for speeds rated at DDR3-1600.

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#7 brandontwb
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The maximum RAM voltage for your motherboard is 2.2 volts, minimum is 1.5 volts. So 1.9 volts is in a safe range. Some of the older DDR3 RAM, when it was first coming out, required up to 2.3v for speeds rated at DDR3-1600.

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I would rather keep it at a 1333 just to be on the safe side. So I could set my timings to 8 8 8 24 and what, 1.7v? What happens if I put to much or too litte volts? You are a big help..
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If you put to much voltage in your RAM it'll eventually fry the RAM or even the motherboard.

If you put to little, it won't boot, but 1.5 v is the minimum you can go and DDR3 requires 1.5v minimum to boot.

You could easily do about 1.6-1.7v at DDR3-1333 with maybe 7-7-7-19.

The faster the RAM goes, the more voltage you need for lower timings.

If you want to be on the safe side though.

1.6v to 1.7v @ DDR3-1333 @ 8-8-8-21

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If you put to much voltage in your RAM it'll eventually fry the RAM or even the motherboard.

If you put to little, it won't boot, but 1.5 v is the minimum you can go and DDR3 requires 1.5v minimum to boot.

You could easily do about 1.6-1.7v at DDR3-1333 with maybe 7-7-7-19.

The faster the RAM goes, the more voltage you need for lower timings.

If you want to be on the safe side though.

1.6v to 1.7v @ DDR3-1333 @ 8-8-8-21

kilerchese

OK that's perfect.
If you would do one last check for me to see if everything will work together, deviler good performance and be good for minor upgrades down the road, it would be great:

Case:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119077

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131397

Power Supply: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017

RAM: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227320

CPU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103694

link'd for you

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#10 brandontwb
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Also, will Windows 7 BETA work for initial boot? That's what I'll be using.

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#11 kilerchese
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Power Supply: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017brandontwb

They stopped selling that power supply.

If you got the money for it. YOu could get this power supply.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

It's $90 off with free S&H.

Everything else looks good.

Also, will Windows 7 BETA work for initial boot? That's what I'll be using.

brandontwb

Yes, you can use that for first install.

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#12 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Power Supply: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017kilerchese

They stopped selling that power supply.

If you got the money for it. YOu could get this power supply.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

It's $90 off with free S&H.

Everything else looks good.

Also, will Windows 7 BETA work for initial boot? That's what I'll be using.

brandontwb

Yes, you can use that for first install.

I know, they took it off like an hour before I was going to order the parts!! I wished I had gotten the one you mentioned, but I sitll got a good one that is 600W OCZ (pfc and 80%+) but it's more expensive than the one you mentioned. If only I had read that! Too late now I guess, I already put my future specs in my sig :D.