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#51 dakan45
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casual gamers play wii sports not call of duty 0.o07pops07

....:shock:.....Nope, not at all casual games that dont play hard and complicated fps or rpgs and rts play cod. How in the world you will be considered a casual gamer if you played only sports games? :lol: Please , your impression about casual gamers is deeply incorrect, do you really think that casual gamers dont play fps or violent games? You just insulted all casual gamers out there.

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#52 dakan45
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[QUOTE="XPierreKirbyX"]

What do you say? Will Crysis 2 have lean and prone?Gooeykat

Crysis is being designed with consoles in mind first, PC second. So I say no. Some will say this is not true, but I would point them to Cervat Yerli's comments regarding the first game and his disappointment in sales and piracy. Crytek will not, WILL NOT, take any chances on this. Consolers are stoked about this coming to their platform and Crytek cannot afford to disappointment them. They can however afford to disappoint PC gamers.

To be honest thats what i think too. Every developer out there focuses on consoles. Crytek aint no diffirent, they can afford to dissapoint the pc gamers but not the console crowd where they make 2 console versions on an engine designed for the consoles. It will be insane for every company to make seperate version or make the pc version more complicated in control and gameplay just for the pc. Judging by what resources crytek has and the time they got, it likely they wont take any chances and just make a multiplatform game. Come on, we have seen bigger developers doing it. There is ofcourse the chance of the game not being so dumbed down but if it sucseeds on the consoles, the developers will keep on this train and they will completly consolize crysis 3. Thats why i said what i said. I bet that many crysis fans are raging now but sorry, crytek is no diffirent neither they have the amount of time and resources and developers to do something as massive as making a seperate pc version. Once they get the money from the consoles, they will not care much anymore just like all the other developers out there.

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#53 Artosa
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vietcong for the ps2 had lean and it worked fine. modern developers: lazy.
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#54 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]vietcong for the ps2 had lean and it worked fine. modern developers: lazy.

Well, i get the feeling developers nowadays have so much to work on a game, that they dont have the patience to do everything and they take out what they can.
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#55 Artosa
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Artosa"]vietcong for the ps2 had lean and it worked fine. modern developers: lazy.

Well, i get the feeling developers nowadays have so much to work on a game, that they dont have the patience to do everything and they take out what they can.

more like developers focusing on graphics rather than gameplay.
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#56 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Artosa"][QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Artosa"]vietcong for the ps2 had lean and it worked fine. modern developers: lazy.

Well, i get the feeling developers nowadays have so much to work on a game, that they dont have the patience to do everything and they take out what they can.

more like developers focusing on graphics rather than gameplay.

If that was so, they would bother to optimize their pc versions and add visibly beter graphics and not slightly, ofcourse that does not apply on all games.
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#57 ducati101
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[QUOTE="Gooeykat"][QUOTE="XPierreKirbyX"]

What do you say? Will Crysis 2 have lean and prone?

Crysis is being designed with consoles in mind first, PC second. So I say no. Some will say this is not true, but I would point them to Cervat Yerli's comments regarding the first game and his disappointment in sales and piracy. Crytek will not, WILL NOT, take any chances on this. Consolers are stoked about this coming to their platform and Crytek cannot afford to disappointment them. They can however afford to disappoint PC gamers.

Oh dear your in for a massive shock aren't you? PC is lead, this much has been clarified. Not to mention the PC version is being made separate as oppose to the console versions.
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#58 dakan45
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^Yeah sure and all they do is show us console footage, i highly doubt they will manage to make 2 seperate versions one for consoles and one for pc before 2011 that is with the amount of work that kind of game requires. It seems impossible to me not just for crytek but every developer out there plus not worh the trouble. If that happens i wouldnt be suprised if the game came out first for consoles and later for pc or first for pc and much later for consoles. But the "seperate versions before 2011" sounds way too hard for me let alone the fact that as the time goes by, more and more devs take the easy train of console focus in their project development.
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#59 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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I will just wait and see. You can make a quality port and then a crappy port. Time will tell the difference.
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^Yeah sure and all they do is show us console footage, i highly doubt they will manage to make 2 seperate versions one for consoles and one for pc before 2011 that is with the amount of work that kind of game requires. It seems impossible to me not just for crytek but every developer out there plus not worh the trouble. If that happens i wouldnt be suprised if the game came out first for consoles and later for pc or first for pc and much later for consoles. But the "seperate versions before 2011" sounds way too hard for me let alone the fact that as the time goes by, more and more devs take the easy train of console focus in their project development.dakan45
And yet you dont get the idea why they are showing console footage? Common practice, if you saw what the pc version looked like then as a 'business' you would not want the 2 versions side by side. Also all the 'console' footage is not as it exactly seems. What until it's closer to release date then you will see what i mean :)
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I dont know, bad company 2 was not, i bet metro 2033 will not have either and it was mainly a pc developed game. Wherever crysis 2 will have prone depends on how much attention they will put on the game. I dont know about crysis 2 but i can tell you that crysis 3 will not be balanced for lean. Anyway crysis was one of the few games that leaning was actually pretty damn good.dakan45
remember though, BC2 was made for the consoles and ported to the PC
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#62 dakan45
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And yet you dont get the idea why they are showing console footage? Common practice, if you saw what the pc version looked like then as a 'business' you would not want the 2 versions side by side. Also all the 'console' footage is not as it exactly seems. What until it's closer to release date then you will see what i mean :)ducati101
Nope, if they showed the pc version, people will still get the console version no matter the graphics. Its always like that, pc and its superior capabilitiy and technology such as physics and what Nvidia comes up with counts 0% since the 2/3 of the gaming consumers always pick up the console version and compare graphics based on the consoles and not on the pc. Just like system wars;) Also its nice how we can assume that the graphics on consoles wont look as good at the release date, based on other multiplatform games but we cant assume that crysis 2 will turn our just like every other multiplatform game just because its crytek and they have not pullet ther .console>pc move yet just like almost every other multipatform developer out there.
remember though, BC2 was made for the consoles and ported to the PCpete_merlin
Point one multiplatform game out there right now that has lean on the pc version? Metro 2033 was also made for pc in mind but if you play the game you will see that it seems feels like it was made for consoles. All multiplatform developers do that now and it gets worse in every release, so i expect nothing less from crytek. As i said it depends on how much effort will put on the pc version but with the way this is going i doubt crytek is gonna bother much just like the rest of the developers.
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#63 jun_aka_pekto
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None of us know what Crytek has in mind. I suppose we'll find out what the focus of Crysis 2 will be soon. If it's focused more on multiplayer, then perhaps there won't be lean/prone. But if it's still focused on singleplayer (Crysis/Warhead) like I think it is then lean and prone will most likely still be there. I've never seen Crysis as a significant multiplayer game. So, I'm inclined to think Crytek will keep lean/prone in the game since it's very integral to the singleplayer gameplay.

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#64 dakan45
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None of us know what Crytek has in mind. I suppose we'll find out what the focus of Crysis 2 will be soon. If it's focused more on multiplayer, then perhaps there won't be lean/prone. But if it's still focused on singleplayer (Crysis/Warhead) like I think it is then lean and prone will most likely still be there. I've never seen Crysis as a significant multiplayer game. So, I'm inclined to think Crytek will keep lean/prone in the game since it's very integral to the singleplayer gameplay.

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Personally i really wonder how the game is gonna be on the consoles, there is no way they gonna make it like the first one. They gonna have to change alot of things and that is propably gonna impact on the pc version as well.
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[QUOTE="Gooeykat"][QUOTE="XPierreKirbyX"]

What do you say? Will Crysis 2 have lean and prone?dakan45

Crysis is being designed with consoles in mind first, PC second. So I say no. Some will say this is not true, but I would point them to Cervat Yerli's comments regarding the first game and his disappointment in sales and piracy. Crytek will not, WILL NOT, take any chances on this. Consolers are stoked about this coming to their platform and Crytek cannot afford to disappointment them. They can however afford to disappoint PC gamers.

To be honest thats what i think too. Every developer out there focuses on consoles. Crytek aint no diffirent, they can afford to dissapoint the pc gamers but not the console crowd where they make 2 console versions on an engine designed for the consoles. It will be insane for every company to make seperate version or make the pc version more complicated in control and gameplay just for the pc. Judging by what resources crytek has and the time they got, it likely they wont take any chances and just make a multiplatform game. Come on, we have seen bigger developers doing it. There is ofcourse the chance of the game not being so dumbed down but if it sucseeds on the consoles, the developers will keep on this train and they will completly consolize crysis 3. Thats why i said what i said. I bet that many crysis fans are raging now but sorry, crytek is no diffirent neither they have the amount of time and resources and developers to do something as massive as making a seperate pc version. Once they get the money from the consoles, they will not care much anymore just like all the other developers out there.

Of course, they see all this money that other developers are making on consoles (and lets be honest most of them are inferior to Crytek) and they want some of that pie. I don't blame them one bit. Does anyone honestly believe that they are making PC the lead platform, they can say that all they want but they realize the console crowd is a much bigger portion of the pie. I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but recent history suggest that this will be another excellent PC exclusive that is lost to the consoles.

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#66 Anarchist-TKC-1
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The graphics from the first game was amazing. Lets see how this turns out, maybe with some actual gameplay too? ;-)
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The graphics from the first game was amazing. Lets see how this turns out, maybe with some actual gameplay too? ;-)Anarchist-TKC-1
I get it! It's funny because Crysis actually had some of the deepest gameplay in an FPS to date!
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#68 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="Gooeykat"] Crysis is being designed with consoles in mind first, PC second. So I say no. Some will say this is not true, but I would point them to Cervat Yerli's comments regarding the first game and his disappointment in sales and piracy. Crytek will not, WILL NOT, take any chances on this. Consolers are stoked about this coming to their platform and Crytek cannot afford to disappointment them. They can however afford to disappoint PC gamers.Gooeykat

To be honest thats what i think too. Every developer out there focuses on consoles. Crytek aint no diffirent, they can afford to dissapoint the pc gamers but not the console crowd where they make 2 console versions on an engine designed for the consoles. It will be insane for every company to make seperate version or make the pc version more complicated in control and gameplay just for the pc. Judging by what resources crytek has and the time they got, it likely they wont take any chances and just make a multiplatform game. Come on, we have seen bigger developers doing it. There is ofcourse the chance of the game not being so dumbed down but if it sucseeds on the consoles, the developers will keep on this train and they will completly consolize crysis 3. Thats why i said what i said. I bet that many crysis fans are raging now but sorry, crytek is no diffirent neither they have the amount of time and resources and developers to do something as massive as making a seperate pc version. Once they get the money from the consoles, they will not care much anymore just like all the other developers out there.

Of course, they see all this money that other developers are making on consoles (and lets be honest most of them are inferior to Crytek) and they want some of that pie. I don't blame them one bit. Does anyone honestly believe that they are making PC the lead platform, they can say that all they want but they realize the console crowd is a much bigger portion of the pie. I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but recent history suggest that this will be another excellent PC exclusive that is lost to the consoles.

To be honest i dont think crytek has the budget of say, ubisoft which is huge in game developing studios and has alot of employes but they dont bother make seperate version, that being said i doubt crytek will, a company that never made a game on more than one platform, consoles have seperate far cry editions that were released years after the far cry release. So i doubt that they make seperate version before 2011, it will be just another game like every multiplat fps out there.
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Perhaps a clue can be had with Crytek's track record on the different versions of Far Cry (consoles and pc). I know the pc version had the V key for prone and Q/E for lean. Far Cry: Instincts should've had prone as well. Not sure about lean. Far Cry: Vengeance for Wii? I have no clue.

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Perhaps a clue can be had with Crytek's track record on the different versions of Far Cry (consoles and pc). I know the pc version had the V key for prone and Q/E for lean. Far Cry: Instincts should've had prone as well. Not sure about lean. Far Cry: Vengeance for Wii? I have no clue.

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Insticts had dual weilding and not weapon sights aiming, also diffiernt story, eg you could turn into a mutant and use meele attacks, plus health regeneration and a penknife. Diffirent story, levels, etc,etc. If thats how diffirent the console version and the pc version will be, then DO NOT WANT!!! I wanna buy one game not 2 diffirent ones.

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Insticts had dual weilding and not weapon sights aiming, also diffiernt story, eg you could turn into a mutant and use meele attacks, plus health regeneration and a penknife. Diffirent story, levels, etc,etc. If thats how diffirent the console version and the pc version will be, then DO NOT WANT!!! I wanna buy one game not 2 diffirent ones.dakan45

At least Crytek did keep prone on the XBox version of Far Cry. That should give a clue on whether prone/lean will be kept or not. Since the PC will have lead and Crysis is as much a stealth game as a run n gun FPS, I'm leaning (pardon the expression) towards prone/lean being retained.

I'm sure Crytek will retain prone and make sure it has its limitations. Even in Crysis and Warhead, going prone is almost suicidal against the aliens since they can home in awfully fast at the point where gunfire was coming from.

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Diffirent Eras to be honest, no one knows what they are going to do now, but i get the feeling games are very similar nowadays, like all devs do the same things. So i would be suprised to see crytek making things diffirently.
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The graphics from the first game was amazing. Lets see how this turns out, maybe with some actual gameplay too? ;-)Anarchist-TKC-1
You should see the latest tech trailer. When it showed the Xbox capabilities I was like :/ meh it's like Crysis on low-med with some extra filters that make it look more solid. When I saw the PC capabilities regarding the lights I was like :O it made Crysis look like garbage.
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#74 Getix-01
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i extremely doubt prone, but leaning is a possibility, by the looks of crysis 2 the action will be extremely fast paced, and using prone would just slow down the action, it wouldnt feel like a crysis game.