Will the 2900xt/pro be a better card for DX10 then the 8800gts?

Yes they are way more stronger than the GTS but the current drivers suck

Here you can compare them side by side

http://www.gpureview.com/

The question is simple. With the late start ati had with the DX10 Cards, will they preform better than the 8800gts cards in DX10 games? crazycolt1234

They're already better than the 8800 GTS in DX9, despite the huge texture unit deficit.

Without overclocking... I think the GTS still stands strong. http://pclab.pl/art28806-3.html compare to pro cards.

Yes they beat it slightly in in dx9. But dx10 is where it really shines and it's on par or better then the 8800 gtx.T3h_m1zp3Lled_1

[QUOTE="T3h_m1zp3Lled_1"]Yes they beat it slightly in in dx9. But dx10 is where it really shines and it's on par or better then the 8800 gtx.BrooklynBomber

Proof?

The only DX10 game the GTS is better at is Lost Planet, which has always favoured NVIDIA cards.

Further, IIRC, the 2900 XT is ahead the 8800 GTS in Prey and Quake (OpenGL).

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="T3h_m1zp3Lled_1"]Yes they beat it slightly in in dx9. But dx10 is where it really shines and it's on par or better then the 8800 gtx.Wesker776

Proof?

The only DX10 game the GTS is better at is Lost Planet, which has always favoured NVIDIA cards.

Further, IIRC, the 2900 XT is ahead the 8800 GTS in Prey and Quake (OpenGL).

[QUOTE="Wesker776"]

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="T3h_m1zp3Lled_1"]Yes they beat it slightly in in dx9. But dx10 is where it really shines and it's on par or better then the 8800 gtx.BrooklynBomber

Proof?

The only DX10 game the GTS is better at is Lost Planet, which has always favoured NVIDIA cards.

Further, IIRC, the 2900 XT is ahead the 8800 GTS in Prey and Quake (OpenGL).

Also from the same site, another OpenGL benchmark:

Here's CoJ:

I don't care if you have a GTX SLI rig, it has nothing to do with the argument. Also, yes, I believe a CrossFire rig is sometimes better in some games (especially under Vista). Certainly not all the time, but there are cases 2900 CF does outperform GTX SLI.

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="T3h_m1zp3Lled_1"]Yes they beat it slightly in in dx9. But dx10 is where it really shines and it's on par or better then the 8800 gtx.Wesker776

Proof?

The only DX10 game the GTS is better at is Lost Planet, which has always favoured NVIDIA cards.

Further, IIRC, the 2900 XT is ahead the 8800 GTS in Prey and Quake (OpenGL).

Also from the same site, another OpenGL benchmark:

Here's CoJ:

I don't care if you have a GTX SLI rig, it has nothing to do with the argument. Also, yes, I believe a CrossFire rig is sometimes better in some games (especially under Vista). Certainly not all the time, but there are cases 2900 CF does outperform GTX SLI.

[QUOTE="Wesker776"][QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="Wesker776"]

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="T3h_m1zp3Lled_1"]Yes they beat it slightly in in dx9. But dx10 is where it really shines and it's on par or better then the 8800 gtx.BrooklynBomber

Proof?

The only DX10 game the GTS is better at is Lost Planet, which has always favoured NVIDIA cards.

Further, IIRC, the 2900 XT is ahead the 8800 GTS in Prey and Quake (OpenGL).

Also from the same site, another OpenGL benchmark:

Here's CoJ:

I don't care if you have a GTX SLI rig, it has nothing to do with the argument. Also, yes, I believe a CrossFire rig is sometimes better in some games (especially under Vista). Certainly not all the time, but there are cases 2900 CF does outperform GTX SLI.

WTF!?

The 2900 XT has been getting monthly driver updates too, and it got hotfixes a couple days ago for Cat 7.9. Considering that it took NVIDIA nearly 12 months for decent Vista drivers, compared to AMD's 3, I wouldn't bank all my money on your miracle hotfix (no one else is noticing groundbreaking improvements).

The 2900 XT is faster than the 8800 GTS. Period. Go look at any benchmark and they will tell you the same thing.

Considering that it took NVIDIA nearly 12 months for decent Vista drivers, compared to AMD's 3, I wouldn't bank all my money on your miracle hotfix (no one else is noticing groundbreaking improvements)Wesker776

To be fair, with AMD stalling the release on that card for as long as they did, it's pretty horrible that they still didn't have good working drivers for the thing at launch, either - especially considering the drivers worked great on their older cards.Makari

At least AMD had STABLE drivers at launch, something that couldn't be said for Nvidia at the same time the HD2900XT was launched...

[QUOTE="Makari"]To be fair, with AMD stalling the release on that card for as long as they did, it's pretty horrible that they still didn't have good working drivers for the thing at launch, either - especially considering the drivers worked great on their older cards.LordEC911

At least AMD had STABLE drivers at launch, something that couldn't be said for Nvidia at the same time the HD2900XT was launched...

[QUOTE="Makari"]To be fair, with AMD stalling the release on that card for as long as they did, it's pretty horrible that they still didn't have good working drivers for the thing at launch, either - especially considering the drivers worked great on their older cards.LordEC911

At least AMD had STABLE drivers at launch, something that couldn't be said for Nvidia at the same time the HD2900XT was launched...

They launched the card 6 months later... XP was pretty stable for Nvidia.

And let's not even talk about Linux for 2900xt...

I've been looking a benchmarks and reviews and I have to say that I don't get the hype... It seems like people are more excited that ATi has finally got a card out that beats Nvidia more than anything. This is a long over-due card that's only slightly more powerful than the GTS, so I don't understand why people are so excited about it. Tweaktown makes this card sound like the 2nd coming for some reason.

I'm an independent, so all I care about is the big picture for me, the consumer. And I'm left looking at a card that came in a year too late and at a cheaper price. It's not a card that is going to let me play upcoming games any better despite coming in a whole year later than the 320mb GTS. As a consumer, I'm looking for a $300 card that's going to max out Crysis at 1680x1050 (the new 1280x1024) with an AVG FPS of about 45. Is this card going to give me that? No. Should I expect a card that gives me that? I think I should, and I'm definitely looking foward to the R670 or whatever Nvidia puts out in November. As for these cards? YAWN... Couldn't care less. Actually, with the R670 just around the corner, you could say that these cards are pretty damn near worthless.

As a consumer, I'm looking for a $300 card that's going to max out Crysis at 1680x1050 (the new 1280x1024) with an AVG FPS of about 45. Is this card going to give me that? No. Should I expect a card that gives me that? I think I should, and I'm definitely looking foward to the R670 or whatever Nvidia puts out in November. As for these cards? YAWN... Couldn't care less. Actually, with the R670 just around the corner, you could say that these cards are pretty damn near worthless.phan1