Will we ever have a reasonably priced monitor with deep blacks??

Before you say it I will tell you that I cannot afford to buy plasma and I also dont want my PC display to have a poor pixel density so plasma TV as monitor is out of the question for me and I think I am being reasonable in saying that.

Anyways by reasonably priced I dont mean $150 but more like less than $500. Unfortunately even with a budget of $500 there is nothing I can purchase that has deep blacks. If they made new CRT's I would totally buy one even with all their drawbacks, picture quality matters alot to me and it annoys me when I play metro 2033 on my IPS panel monitor.:evil:

My 4 year old 17" CRT monitor does a better job at metro 2033 and doom 3 than my top of the line IPS panel LCD.:lol:

I mean with TV's you have plasma and the LED TV's have infinitely better blacks than the PC LCD's, why is no one bothering to make a monitor that takes us to the next level?? We are having super amoled in mobile phones, NGP will have OLED, does anyone plan on catering to the monitor market?:cry:

Technically...the Kuros are monitors not TVs so its already here :P

It won't happen for awhile. Best there is really are IPS panels but still isn't as good as other TVs that can cost as much. (400+ range)

NGP is going OLED because Sony is a major supporter and developer of OLED. It'll be the next step for monitors no doubt though. We can't get any better with current LCD technology. Just doesn't work.

LCD really can't get much better at this point. LED backlighting improves a lot, but, still has a ton of issues. Their poor motion can never be fixed with the way they work. Manufacturers need to invest in OLED. I mean, the screen on my Fascinate has deeper blacks than a Kuro...OLEDs are fantastic.

^Waits for NvidiaAMD to come and rip you apart for that :P

I want an elite kuro 111FD so bad...

I have a Captivate and the colors on this thing are f'ing amazing. Up in 720p looks fantastic on my phone.

^Waits for NvidiaAMD to come and rip you apart for that :P

I want an elite kuro 111FD so bad...

I have a Captivate and the colors on this thing are f'ing amazing. Up in 720p looks fantastic on my phone.

ChubbyGuy40

Screw OLED. I want holograms/virtual reality!

Screw OLED. I want holograms/virtual reality!

ChubbyGuy40

Yes you can TC. It's called the BenQ BL2400PT.

That monitor after calibration will achieve 0.05cd/m² blackness. More or less as good as LGs 950 series plasma or Sony's HX series LED or Panasonic GT20.

You can buy it in Norway for around 1800 NOK which is just over $300. Extremely fair price. In the US it should be $250 or less..

other specs:

24 inches

LED backlit

VA panel

8 MS response time

great colours

1920x1080p resolution

I should have mentioned one thing, my monitor's blacks arent as bad but the viewing angles on blacks make them much worse than they are. With default brightness there is this purple thing on the corners, lowering the brightness reduces that but the contrast suffers.

VA panel offers inferior colours but I am willing to accept that for better blacks. What I just dont like about VA are the viewing angles.:(

I am a sucker for viewing angles and this just doesnt cut it.

And secondly the white level is much lower on the benQ than my dell, another huge compromise.:(

Many dell 2209wa owner's run it with 0 brightness, it significantly improves blacks but I dont like it as the "vibrancy and pop" are clearly missing by lowering the brightness that much. That's why I use dynamic contrast and just "bear" with the noticeable brightening and darkening of the screen.:cry:

Sony has a 25" 1080p OLED TV. infinite black, probably much better colours than any IPS...

Now pay the $28,700 Sony wants for it and be happy :P

25"? Perfect size

1080p? Perfect pixel density

OLED? PERFECT! :o

Price? :|............:?............:cry:..............:lol:

hmm..new 2012 chevy camaro or sony 25" OLED? hmmm...

i think sony has a future customer :P

Sony has a 25" 1080p OLED TV. infinite black, probably much better colours than any IPS...

Now pay the $28,700 Sony wants for it and be happy :P

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

Sony has a 25" 1080p OLED TV. infinite black, probably much better colours than any IPS...

Now pay the $28,700 Sony wants for it and be happy :P

gameguy6700

For all your big shot enterpreneurs, celebrities, sports stars etc it's change money and obviously sony is selling it at an insane profit margin so even if it sells very little they would be able to recover the overheads incurred in making it.

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

Sony has a 25" 1080p OLED TV. infinite black, probably much better colours than any IPS...

Now pay the $28,700 Sony wants for it and be happy :P

Gambler_3

For all your big shot enterpreneurs, celebrities, sports stars etc it's change money and obviously sony is selling it at an insane profit margin so even if it sells very little they would be able to recover the overheads incurred in making it.

Graphics Designers and the like would jump all over that monitor. Big businesses too.

that question is in vain, as new technology comes out, old ones go for cheaper price. So eventually it'll happen

/facepalm dude. Sony is one of the biggest in the professional industry.

Sony has some SICK SXRD projectors with 4096x2160p (see Kipnis Studio) that could any where from $100,000 - $1,000,000. The price of this OLED monitor is penuts compared to the best displays sony has to offer.

the 25" 1080p OLED was DESIGNED for the broadcasting industry. Trust me, they'll be eating these up (I can assume 1 company buys like hundred of these...)

95% of the sales will come from professional studios but there's definitely going to be dozens of graphics artists/designers who demand the best that will buy it.

If I had a seven figure income I would buy them in a heartbeat!

/facepalm dude. Sony is one of the biggest in the professional industry.

Sony has some SICK SXRD projectors with 4096x2160p (see Kipnis Studio) that could any where from $100,000 - $1,000,000. The price of this OLED monitor is penuts compared to the best displays sony has to offer.

the 25" 1080p OLED was DESIGNED for the broadcasting industry. Trust me, they'll be eating these up (I can assume 1 company buys like hundred of these...)

95% of the sales will come from professional studios but there's definitely going to be dozens of graphics artists/designers who demand the best that will buy it.

If I had a seven figure income I would buy them in a heartbeat!

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

^Waits for NvidiaAMD to come and rip you apart for that :P

I want an elite kuro 111FD so bad...

I have a Captivate and the colors on this thing are f'ing amazing. Up in 720p looks fantastic on my phone.

NVIDIATI

OLED + Gorilla Glass = happy me :D

There is actually an Eizo monitor with even deeper blacks than the aforementioned BenQ (0.05cd/m²)

The Eizo FS3231 has a black level as low as 0.04cd/m² which is equal to the 2010 TV of the year Panasonic VT 20 plasma. If you want a deeper black level than this Eizo you're going to have to get one of the below:

*Sony XBR 960 CRT

* Sony GDM FW900 CRT
* Sony 17/25" 1080p OLED
* Pioneer Elite Kuro series plasma
* Pioneer 9G Kuro series plasma

* Panasonic GT30 plasma

Ya I know about that which is why I said "reasonably priced".:P

Ya I know about that which is why I said "reasonably priced".:P

Gambler_3

In other words, its priced roughly the same as the high end TN panels. Not sure if you're US or not but I couldn't find a US price on it.

Searching that monitor on google gives only 3 results.:?

Surely if it was so good that wouldnt be the case.:?

I cant even find what panel type it is....

And since eizo monitors are normally so expensive I assumed it will be as well....

Searching that monitor on google gives only 3 results.:?

Surely if it was so good that wouldnt be the case.:?

I cant even find what panel type it is....

And since eizo monitors are normally so expensive I assumed it will be as well....

Gambler_3

The amazing deal can be found here

However in the UK it costs £311... Still a good price for what you're getting.

Flatpanels review

Highly Recommended Award 2010
April 2010
"The out-of-box settings are convincing and the sRGB mode is good as well. The black level of 0,04 cd/m2is a small revolution for PC monitors and together with convincing shadow detailing, EV2333WH sets new standards for contrast ratio on PC monitors."

Well that's really good actually but the viewing angles are bad.:(

monitors are not built to give the best picture. Get a tv if you are looking for the best picture .

monitors are not built to give the best picture. Get a tv if you are looking for the best picture .

dontshackzmii

Except high-end ones for graphic designers where you need the best color profiles and accuracy.

monitors are not built to give the best picture. Get a tv if you are looking for the best picture .

dontshackzmii

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monitors are not built to give the best picture. Get a tv if you are looking for the best picture .

Gambler_3

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

monitors are not built to give the best picture. Get a tv if you are looking for the best picture .

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

monitors are not built to give the best picture. Get a tv if you are looking for the best picture .

Mozelleple112

Secondly they are expensive, when I'll have the money I'll definitely get a TV as a second display. Man I wish I had a plasma, I would love to play metro 2033 on it and ofcourse watch movies. When the blacks arent so good, the black bars are soooo annoying.:evil:

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]TV's have poor pixel density....

Makari

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] That does not make them worse though. Don't really think a monitors been ahead of TV since the Sony GDM FW900... I mean sure there's plenty of 2560x1600 monitors but they have CRAPPY blacks, contrast ratios, response time / input lag etc...Mozelleple112

erm.. BenQ 24" LED backlit with a VA panel.. £150

rated ratio 3000:1 (static) actual contrast ratio 3223:1 (saw on testfreaks)

deepest blacks available with a great view angle

erm.. BenQ 24" LED backlit with a VA panel.. £150

rated ratio 3000:1 (static) actual contrast ratio 3223:1 (saw on testfreaks)

deepest blacks available with a great view angle

SPBoss

The contrast suffers immensely.....

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erm.. BenQ 24" LED backlit with a VA panel.. £150

rated ratio 3000:1 (static) actual contrast ratio 3223:1 (saw on testfreaks)

deepest blacks available with a great view angle

Gambler_3

The contrast suffers immensely.....

Because I watch movies on my PC monitor, it is my primary mode of watching movies until I can afford to get a big TV.

Plus many a times friends come over to play games where we have several people watching and one person playing.

I want my monitor to be a proper multimedia thing, with bad viewing angles that is just not happening.

Well that's really good actually but the viewing angles are bad.:(

Gambler_3

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

Well that's really good actually but the viewing angles are bad.:(

DJ_Headshot