I just got a new laptop (HP pavilion DM3 1020ea) and i was wondering whether to keep the standard Windows 7 or get Linux. Thanks
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I just got a new laptop (HP pavilion DM3 1020ea) and i was wondering whether to keep the standard Windows 7 or get Linux. Thanks
linux is great but you really will need the patience for any distribution you get. If anything douel boot both and slowly tinker with linux. If you have never messed with linux then I would say to go windows 7. You really have to relearn how to work your computer on linux in comparison to windows which in essence has been the same template for close to decades now? Now if you are a experience linux user then go for it. I personally have multiple distributions of linux. From a old Suse (i know folks... don't taze me bro), xandros, easypeezy, ubuntu, to blue dog on my ps3.
I really like Linux. If you are just trying out Linux for the first time, I'd recommend Ubuntu. Here's a guide on how to dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu. If it wasn't for Windows having games, I'd only use Linux. :P
Why would you want Linux if you don't know how to dual boot? Linux has a big learning curve as it isn't like Windows where you click here and click there to install most things. Most everything is done through the terminal and require some know-how. If you want an operating system with a Unix-like kernal, I suggest Ubuntu as it is more user friendly than Linux.I havent ever used Linux before :S, but how do you dual boot them ?
i--Ki1l--U
Yeah, i dont really mind, I just want the best possible Operating System for my PC, but isnt Ubuntu almost the same as Linux ?
I had to use Linux Ubantu for Operating System Admin Class I found it bad and awful, my advice if you want to play games keep se7enDark_prince123u mean u are just nub lawl Also wtf is Ubauntu
Linux isn't an operating system, it's a kernel. Ubuntu is a distrubution of Linux.Yeah, i dont really mind, I just want the best possible Operating System for my PC, but isnt Ubuntu almost the same as Linux ?
i--Ki1l--U
It's a fine OS, I force people to use it, there are initial questions, most get used to it...
Hell I made my smart friend go start into FreeBSD he uh disliked it due to fdisk. I just made him go Debian, he likes dat. (Ubuntu is based on Debian) Debian is for cool peoples.
What is best to you? Do you want a stable OS that doesn't crash? Both Win7 and a good Linux installation are pretty rock solid. Do you want to play games? Win7 is really your only option there. Do you want access to tons of community developed free applications? Windows has that some, but linux wins here. Do you want an OS that you can tinker with to get it exactly like you want, or do you want one that is overall easier to get into and use? There is no universal "best" operating system.Yeah, i dont really mind, I just want the best possible Operating System for my PC, but isnt Ubuntu almost the same as Linux ?
i--Ki1l--U
I just got a new laptop (HP pavilion DM3 1020ea) and i was wondering whether to keep the standard Windows 7 or get Linux. Thanks
i--Ki1l--U
keeps windows 7 , Linux is a waste of time, do you wanna search the net for hours trying to get video plug ins to work on websites? ok if not keep windows 7.I just got a new laptop (HP pavilion DM3 1020ea) and i was wondering whether to keep the standard Windows 7 or get Linux. Thanks
i--Ki1l--U
[QUOTE="i--Ki1l--U"]What is best to you? Do you want a stable OS that doesn't crash? Both Win7 and a good Linux installation are pretty rock solid. Do you want to play games? Win7 is really your only option there. Do you want access to tons of community developed free applications? Windows has that some, but linux wins here. Do you want an OS that you can tinker with to get it exactly like you want, or do you want one that is overall easier to get into and use? There is no universal "best" operating system. MINIX ok I am kidding :PYeah, i dont really mind, I just want the best possible Operating System for my PC, but isnt Ubuntu almost the same as Linux ?
guynamedbilly
[QUOTE="i--Ki1l--U"]What is best to you? Do you want a stable OS that doesn't crash? Both Win7 and a good Linux installation are pretty rock solid. Do you want to play games? Win7 is really your only option there. Do you want access to tons of community developed free applications? Windows has that some, but linux wins here. Do you want an OS that you can tinker with to get it exactly like you want, or do you want one that is overall easier to get into and use? There is no universal "best" operating system. there millions of free apps for Windows only, example League of Legends the game, not on linux, linx is for hardcore PC users, but it just seems like a pointless run around the world to use linux.you know who uses linux? Companys that don't wanna buy windows for there PC's and servers, gamers and PC users would get more just using Windows.Yeah, i dont really mind, I just want the best possible Operating System for my PC, but isnt Ubuntu almost the same as Linux ?
guynamedbilly
there is a nice feature in Ubuntu you can run it from CD if you liked it then install it ( and yeah you can uninstall it ) but I don't think you're gonna like it se7en is way better than it !Is there any way of uninstalling Ubuntu?
i--Ki1l--U
[QUOTE="i--Ki1l--U"]I just got a new laptop (HP pavilion DM3 1020ea) and i was wondering whether to keep the standard Windows 7 or get Linux. Thanks
dawgrejectx
keeps windows 7 , Linux is a waste of time, do you wanna search the net for hours trying to get video plug ins to work on websites? ok if not keep windows 7.I just got a new laptop (HP pavilion DM3 1020ea) and i was wondering whether to keep the standard Windows 7 or get Linux. Thanks
i--Ki1l--U
Hours? Dude, just use the update manager...done.
linux is ok to mess around with. the linux community is obsessed with retyping their passwords every 3 seconds, and having everything done in the terminal. its 2010... we have guis for everything....Atheists_Pwn
it's not every three seconds, if anything you can think of the authentication notice as the UAC for windows, and yeah the terminal is nice, but so is the command prompt. Do you have to use either? No. Is it useful? Hell yes.
Yeah, i dont really mind, I just want the best possible Operating System for my PC, but isnt Ubuntu almost the same as Linux ?
i--Ki1l--U
I'm sure that quote will be on someone's signature someday. He He He. But yes. Ubuntu is Linux.
Just boot with a Linux LiveCD. It might be slow but bearable. When you're done, Shut Down, remove CD, and you'll be prompted to reboot. No harm to the hard drive.
That said, I'm partial to LinuxMint.
Be advised that if you are installing it on an HP laptop you might want to make sure everything you have on that laptop is going to work under Linux, as some hardware vendors make things that Linux can't run. Run LiveCd first whatever you do to make sure it works.
Back when XP was cutting edge there was a point to using Ubuntu in terms of customization and the level of eye candy you could get but now with Windows 7 it blows it away out the box. Just tried the 10.4 beta and it really seems like a massive downgrade after using Win7 for the past 6 months.
Plus it now has the min/max/close buttons on the left of the window!
DEAL BREAKER!!! lol
Plus it now has the min/max/close buttons on the left of the window!StormtrooprDaveAre you serious? I haven't tried Ubuntu in a long time. Wow... that seems ridiculous to change something that's pretty much standard on every OS... everybody is going to constantly be going "wtf" everytime they want to use it because it will be so unnatural. Really, there is no improved functionality with that. It seems like a very cheap gimmick to say "ooooh look, we're different than Windows because we have that stuff on the left!"
[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"]linux is ok to mess around with. the linux community is obsessed with retyping their passwords every 3 seconds, and having everything done in the terminal. its 2010... we have guis for everything....Sparticus247
it's not every three seconds, if anything you can think of the authentication notice as the UAC for windows, and yeah the terminal is nice, but so is the command prompt. Do you have to use either? No. Is it useful? Hell yes.
you actually do have to use the terminal,and uac is far less annoying, because it doesnt ever, at any time involve the command prompt saying an ubuntu user, or any linux user wil never have to go into a command line interface is a flat out lie, in every way shape and form.[QUOTE="Sparticus247"][QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"]linux is ok to mess around with. the linux community is obsessed with retyping their passwords every 3 seconds, and having everything done in the terminal. its 2010... we have guis for everything....Atheists_Pwn
it's not every three seconds, if anything you can think of the authentication notice as the UAC for windows, and yeah the terminal is nice, but so is the command prompt. Do you have to use either? No. Is it useful? Hell yes.
you actually do have to use the terminal,and uac is far less annoying, because it doesnt ever, at any time involve the command prompt saying an ubuntu user, or any linux user wil never have to go into a command line interface is a flat out lie, in every way shape and form. You mean cause the average Ubuntu user is smarter than a Windows user is a shock? :oAlso UAC is useless, the prompts that come up to make you type in your password are useful, what if someone just walks up to your pc and wants to do,
rm -rfv /
Run it from a cd because imo it sucks. The UI is ugly and so is the theme. Many of the programs have no UI and instead use command lines. It would take hours searching around just to make it a bit more presentable. Linux is for nerds who have nothing better to do.I havent ever used Linux before :S, but how do you dual boot them ?
i--Ki1l--U
If you really want to try linux get Linux Mint. It's Ubuntu with a much better UI and has most things you will need out the box.
Run it from a cd because imo it sucks. The UI is ugly and so is the theme. Many of the programs have no UI and instead use command lines. It would take hours searching around just to make it a bit more presentable. Linux is for nerds who have nothing better to do.[QUOTE="i--Ki1l--U"]
I havent ever used Linux before :S, but how do you dual boot them ?
Jamex1987
If you really want to try linux get Linux Mint. It's Ubuntu with a much better UI and has most things you will need out the box.
Well dude i dont think they are nerds...u cant call them nerds..because gamers will fall in the same category :D...they are just a bunch of peoples who are passionate about their hobby...just like gamers
Most gamers r nubs though. Not saying you have to be pro to use something like Ubuntu, because that would be funny if I said that. To Jamex, u r nub, Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu... which is based on Debian, and you can get KDE for Ubuntu if you really want to, I like the interface of Gnome. You can change the themes duh.
Also, to dual boot, if you have windows installed first, just shrink the partition in disk management, then let Ubuntu install and it will install Grub the bootmanager, and ask you if you want to boot to Linux or Windows.
If you have Linux installed first, guess what Windows does? It over writes your boot manager without asking. How nice. You can follow this to get it back
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
I have had better luck with method 2 when I have problems. Note this is only for distrubiutions with Grub2 installed, everything before Ubuntu 9.10 uses Grub1... just a fyi incase you look at other distros like Debian (grub1)
You can recover grub1 bootmanagers, just different way.
Also an alternate is to not even go to Linux... or Windows... or UNIX anything... Go OS/2... WARP 4 FTW Ok I am kidding, but if you guys want to be real true warriors, go to WARP. I love the install to it, insert floppy discs and then inserts cds, yay old oses.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
you actually do have to use the terminal,and uac is far less annoying, because it doesnt ever, at any time involve the command prompt saying an ubuntu user, or any linux user wil never have to go into a command line interface is a flat out lie, in every way shape and form. You mean cause the average Ubuntu user is smarter than a Windows user is a shock? :o[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"][QUOTE="Sparticus247"]
it's not every three seconds, if anything you can think of the authentication notice as the UAC for windows, and yeah the terminal is nice, but so is the command prompt. Do you have to use either? No. Is it useful? Hell yes.
JigglyWiggly_
Also UAC is useless, the prompts that come up to make you type in your password are useful, what if someone just walks up to your pc and wants to do,
rm -rfv /
Actually, that doesnt indicate that an Ubuntu user is smarter. most ubuntu users just copy and paste into the terminal. the UAC and password prompting isnt there to protect against people in the office, its meant to make sure malware cant get the privileged to do anything important. If you were some computer guru, you would realize that if you DIDNT use administrator accounts on windows you would actually be prompted for an admin password. linux is simply primitive[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]You mean cause the average Ubuntu user is smarter than a Windows user is a shock? :o[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"] you actually do have to use the terminal,and uac is far less annoying, because it doesnt ever, at any time involve the command prompt saying an ubuntu user, or any linux user wil never have to go into a command line interface is a flat out lie, in every way shape and form.Atheists_Pwn
Also UAC is useless, the prompts that come up to make you type in your password are useful, what if someone just walks up to your pc and wants to do,
rm -rfv /
Actually, that doesnt indicate that an Ubuntu user is smarter. most ubuntu users just copy and paste into the terminal. the UAC and password prompting isnt there to protect against people in the office, its meant to make sure malware cant get the privileged to do anything important. If you were some computer guru, you would realize that if you DIDNT use administrator accounts on windows you would actually be prompted for an admin password. linux is simply primitive You forget, nobody reads the UAC thing. When you are prompted to type your password, you do.Is that Richard Stallman?I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
RichardStallman
keeps windows 7 , Linux is a waste of time, do you wanna search the net for hours trying to get video plug ins to work on websites? ok if not keep windows 7.[QUOTE="dawgrejectx"][QUOTE="i--Ki1l--U"] [QUOTE="i--Ki1l--U"]
I just got a new laptop (HP pavilion DM3 1020ea) and i was wondering whether to keep the standard Windows 7 or get Linux. Thanks
Sparticus247
Hours? Dude, just use the update manager...done.
yea not all forms of linux do that lol only Ubuntu if i recall from my personal experience,just doesn't make sense to me for gamers to use linux, you would have to fly tall trees just to try to run games and regardless of what anyone says it's really not easy to setup linux.[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] You mean cause the average Ubuntu user is smarter than a Windows user is a shock? :oActually, that doesnt indicate that an Ubuntu user is smarter. most ubuntu users just copy and paste into the terminal. the UAC and password prompting isnt there to protect against people in the office, its meant to make sure malware cant get the privileged to do anything important. If you were some computer guru, you would realize that if you DIDNT use administrator accounts on windows you would actually be prompted for an admin password. linux is simply primitive You forget, nobody reads the UAC thing. When you are prompted to type your password, you do. people often just enter the password, similar to how people just say ok to UAC. Its fairly ineffective.Also UAC is useless, the prompts that come up to make you type in your password are useful, what if someone just walks up to your pc and wants to do,
rm -rfv /
JigglyWiggly_
Windows would destroy linux in every conceivable way if they changed two things:
Deny programs the right to change the registry unless you go into safe mode and manually change it (this would destroy many common viruses)
change the file system so that you dont ever have to defrag.
change those two things, and ill never use linux again.
[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"]linux is ok to mess around with. the linux community is obsessed with retyping their passwords every 3 seconds, and having everything done in the terminal. its 2010... we have guis for everything....Sparticus247
it's not every three seconds, if anything you can think of the authentication notice as the UAC for windows, and yeah the terminal is nice, but so is the command prompt. Do you have to use either? No. Is it useful? Hell yes.
actually with Debian everything had to be used thru the terminal so yes some forms of linux only use the terminal, so anything you need you have to actually find the command, it's crazy it's 2010 and linux is still around and it still has no support, if all linux were more like Ubuntu i can see it being big but there not so they fail, only reason for linux is to be elitist and tell everyone you run it.[QUOTE="madmenno"]Well i just got myself win 7 and after a week i got way too anoyed by it. It was not compatible with old games and a lot of software didn't work properly. The interface of windows 7 is lovely, especially if you like to have lots of stuff open (like me). Thats why i reverted to win XP again and get the win7 disc back out when there is a SE or SP 982982309 released. I don't have much experience with linux but you could always duel boot ubuntu wich is a free open source linux OS. But for me it would be the same as windows 7 - not compatible with most stuff i wanna use my pc for.JigglyWiggly_Old games run better in Linux than they do in Windows. Proof: I ran x wing vs tie fighter(the installer is 16 bit) on Ubuntu 64 in wine. What did Windows 7 x64 do? INCOMPATIBLE 16 BIT INSTALLER lol... I bet you didn't know that WIndows 64bit isn't compatible with 16bit anything. The game would have worked with the 32bit version.
[QUOTE="Sparticus247"][QUOTE="dawgrejectx"] keeps windows 7 , Linux is a waste of time, do you wanna search the net for hours trying to get video plug ins to work on websites? ok if not keep windows 7.dawgrejectx
Hours? Dude, just use the update manager...done.
yea not all forms of linux do that lol only Ubuntu if i recall from my personal experience,just doesn't make sense to me for gamers to use linux, you would have to fly tall trees just to try to run games and regardless of what anyone says it's really not easy to setup linux.right, i understand that. I'm just saying most users of windows complain about the non-easy distros. Ubuntu pretty much bullifies any big complaint from the Windows community in terms of it being difficult to use, and is the distro that most home users would choose when migrating from windows. It's quick, it's easy, and it's painless.
[QUOTE="Sparticus247"][QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"]linux is ok to mess around with. the linux community is obsessed with retyping their passwords every 3 seconds, and having everything done in the terminal. its 2010... we have guis for everything....Atheists_Pwn
it's not every three seconds, if anything you can think of the authentication notice as the UAC for windows, and yeah the terminal is nice, but so is the command prompt. Do you have to use either? No. Is it useful? Hell yes.
you actually do have to use the terminal,and uac is far less annoying, because it doesnt ever, at any time involve the command prompt saying an ubuntu user, or any linux user wil never have to go into a command line interface is a flat out lie, in every way shape and form.ok well maybe not EVER having to use the terminal was streatsching things, but hey, you learn something nice once you get the haang of it
you actually do have to use the terminal,and uac is far less annoying, because it doesnt ever, at any time involve the command prompt saying an ubuntu user, or any linux user wil never have to go into a command line interface is a flat out lie, in every way shape and form. You mean cause the average Ubuntu user is smarter than a Windows user is a shock? :o[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"][QUOTE="Sparticus247"]
it's not every three seconds, if anything you can think of the authentication notice as the UAC for windows, and yeah the terminal is nice, but so is the command prompt. Do you have to use either? No. Is it useful? Hell yes.
JigglyWiggly_
Also UAC is useless, the prompts that come up to make you type in your password are useful, what if someone just walks up to your pc and wants to do,
rm -rfv /
what if someone wants to walk up and rm -system 32?:P
I think its possible to have 2 operating systems in a pc. But if your just looking for one os then look at your pc habits, if your a gamer then obviously stay with Windows 7 otherwise go for Linux. Though I am not sure of Linux' office software, though I've used Linux I'v never actually fully explored it yet.
You can also run Linux from a flash drive, check on the Linux website for instructions how to do this. Since your computer came with Windows 7 I would use that, Ubuntu is a very good operating system and is great for a slightly older PC without backup software IMO. If you plan to use your notebook for gaming Linux is out of the question since most games are designed for Windows. If you are just curious about Linux just put it on a disk or flash drive and run it that way, only down side is you can't save anything.
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