Which do you think is/ will be better for gaming?
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Windows 7! I got theUltimate 64 bitand it's much better than vista. Right now the only con of windows 7 is that since it's new there's not alot of drivers for it right now but that will change. If you decide to get vista GET THE 64 bit. I made the mistake of buying the 32 bit of vista(when I didn't realize it) The 64 bit can support 8 gigs or ram but 7 uses less of it than vista:)
I'm nearly 100% sure Windows 7 will be the next XP.Deadly_FatalisProbably won't be another windows xp, it was an anomoly due to the fact XP was so bad when it first came out. (sp2 took a lot of dev time, delaying vista) MS likes bringing out a new os every 2-3 years...
I'm buying Windows 7 on the night of it's release. Vista x64 Ultimate has been a disaster for me and want it off this rig like yesterday. I waited a full year for the SP1 patch believing it would help, it still a resource hog.Give it time windows 7 will be the new best shiney thing to have. I'm using Vista 64 bit and have had no real problems with it, I don't think it's worth me changing just yet.
L1D3N
[QUOTE="L1D3N"]I'm buying Windows 7 on the night of it's release. Vista x64 Ultimate has been a disaster for me and want it off this rig like yesterday. I waited a full year for the SP1 patch believing it would help, it still a resource hog.Give it time windows 7 will be the new best shiney thing to have. I'm using Vista 64 bit and have had no real problems with it, I don't think it's worth me changing just yet.
Deus_Ex_Fan
Sorry to hear that, mine has been a dream really. I have a huge ammount of RAM and storage plus 4 cores but whatever, alot of people are going to change as soon as possible but it's not going to hurt awhile to get it for me.
I'm buying Windows 7 on the night of it's release. Vista x64 Ultimate has been a disaster for me and want it off this rig like yesterday. I waited a full year for the SP1 patch believing it would help, it still a resource hog.[QUOTE="Deus_Ex_Fan"][QUOTE="L1D3N"]
Give it time windows 7 will be the new best shiney thing to have. I'm using Vista 64 bit and have had no real problems with it, I don't think it's worth me changing just yet.
L1D3N
Sorry to hear that, mine has been a dream really. I have a huge ammount of RAM and storage plus 4 cores but whatever, alot of people are going to change as soon as possible but it's not going to hurt awhile to get it for me.
Yeah Vista x64 works fine on my comp, but i have a comp good enough to run it. I would like Win 7, but I'm not going to blow money on that and then reinstall everything when my current setup works just fine.I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows 7, is in fact, Windows Vista SP3, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Mojave Experiment 2.0. Windows 7 is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another marketing scheme by Microsoft to trick users into trying Vista, a full OS as defined by Microsoft.
Many computer users run a modified version of Vista every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Vista which is widely used is often called "Windows 7," and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Vista system, developed by Microsoft.
There really is a Windows 7, and these people are using it, but it is just part of the system they use. Windows 7 is the Graphical User Interface; the program in the system that lets idiots click on things and think they know how a computer works. The Graphical User Interface is an essential part of an operating system that was made for idiots, but useless by itself; it can only appear to have a function in the context of the user not knowing how their OS works. The Windows 7 GUI is normally used in combination with the Vista operating system; the whole system is basically Windows Vista with shinier buttons added. All the so called "Windows 7" users are really users of Windows Vista SP3.
[QUOTE="RichardStallman"]I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows 7, is in fact, Windows Vista SP3, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Mojave Experiment 2.0. Windows 7 is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another marketing scheme by Microsoft to trick users into trying Vista, a full OS as defined by Microsoft. Many computer users run a modified version of Vista every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Vista which is widely used is often called "Windows 7," and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Vista system, developed by Microsoft. There really is a Windows 7, and these people are using it, but it is just part of the system they use. Windows 7 is the Graphical User Interface; the program in the system that lets idiots click on things and think they know how a computer works. The Graphical User Interface is an essential part of an operating system that was made for retards, but useless by itself; it can only appear to have a function in the context of the user not knowing how their OS works. The Windows 7 GUI is normally used in combination with the Vista operating system; the whole system is basically Windows Vista with shinier buttons added. All the so called "Windows 7" users are really users of Windows Vista SP3.Roland123_basicso... what you are trying to do is sound like you know what you are talking about.... what you are actually doing is trying to hard and showing everyone that you know nothing and should be ignored. windows 7 was a full rewrite.... think of windows vista as windows ME, and windows 7 as windows XP.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mojave-experiment/#
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows 7, is in fact, Windows Vista SP3, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Mojave Experiment 2.0. Windows 7 is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another marketing scheme by Microsoft to trick users into trying Vista, a full OS as defined by Microsoft. Many computer users run a modified version of Vista every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Vista which is widely used is often called "Windows 7," and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Vista system, developed by Microsoft. There really is a Windows 7, and these people are using it, but it is just part of the system they use. Windows 7 is the Graphical User Interface; the program in the system that lets idiots click on things and think they know how a computer works. The Graphical User Interface is an essential part of an operating system that was made for retards, but useless by itself; it can only appear to have a function in the context of the user not knowing how their OS works. The Windows 7 GUI is normally used in combination with the Vista operating system; the whole system is basically Windows Vista with shinier buttons added. All the so called "Windows 7" users are really users of Windows Vista SP3.RichardStallman
A copypasta from /g/? In MY Gamespot?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mojave-experiment/#
RichardStallman
Good job dodging the point.
Yes, it's built on Vista's foundation, but it's still a whole new house.
Yes, Windows 7 is based off Vista, and as mentioned before it is a complete rewrite and optimization of the code. The new taskbar takes a little getting used to, but it'd definately a delight to play with each and every time. There are lots of bugs still, and driver support is still quite minimal. But you can use vista drivers and they should work fine. W7 is much faster than vista and XP. You definately notice it off the bat. The only quesiton is, how long will it stay that way? Gaming performance is astonishing. I have tested with ARMA 2 on 64-bit vista and 64 bit 7. And just WOW. Performance difference was like night and day. Running Arma on high settings and 1680x1050 with post processing on low and no AA on vista, was very choppy. Also bear in mind i tested on a fresh new install. Moved to 7 and ran the same settings, and it ran smooth as silk. Turned up the graphics to 1920x1080 no aa on ultra high and it still runs smooth. Not as smooth as the previous. I didn't have time to check FPS, but i will get to that whenever i have time. And the best part... it was FREE :D. thank you msdn!!
me too. i got win 7 rtm for free! woohoo thanks msdn AAYes, Windows 7 is based off Vista, and as mentioned before it is a complete rewrite and optimization of the code. The new taskbar takes a little getting used to, but it'd definately a delight to play with each and every time. There are lots of bugs still, and driver support is still quite minimal. But you can use vista drivers and they should work fine. W7 is much faster than vista and XP. You definately notice it off the bat. The only quesiton is, how long will it stay that way? Gaming performance is astonishing. I have tested with ARMA 2 on 64-bit vista and 64 bit 7. And just WOW. Performance difference was like night and day. Running Arma on high settings and 1680x1050 with post processing on low and no AA on vista, was very choppy. Also bear in mind i tested on a fresh new install. Moved to 7 and ran the same settings, and it ran smooth as silk. Turned up the graphics to 1920x1080 no aa on ultra high and it still runs smooth. Not as smooth as the previous. I didn't have time to check FPS, but i will get to that whenever i have time. And the best part... it was FREE :D. thank you msdn!!
rgz
That's pretty much what I picked up from that post too. He could have simply said "Windows 7 is a upgraded and patched Windows Vista" and saved two paragraphs.guynamedbilly
What he posted is the result of a somewhat-obscure joke/meme..so don't take it too seriously.
It's an elaborate variation on:
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.Richard Stallman
I'm in the same boat. 7 looks good but I've got Vista 64bit and it's working great for me no problems at all so far.Give it time windows 7 will be the new best shiney thing to have. I'm using Vista 64 bit and have had no real problems with it, I don't think it's worth me changing just yet.
L1D3N
so... what you are trying to do is sound like you know what you are talking about.... what you are actually doing is trying to hard and showing everyone that you know nothing and should be ignored. windows 7 was a full rewrite.... think of windows vista as windows ME, and windows 7 as windows XP.[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="RichardStallman"]I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows 7, is in fact, Windows Vista SP3, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Mojave Experiment 2.0. Windows 7 is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another marketing scheme by Microsoft to trick users into trying Vista, a full OS as defined by Microsoft. Many computer users run a modified version of Vista every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Vista which is widely used is often called "Windows 7," and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Vista system, developed by Microsoft. There really is a Windows 7, and these people are using it, but it is just part of the system they use. Windows 7 is the Graphical User Interface; the program in the system that lets idiots click on things and think they know how a computer works. The Graphical User Interface is an essential part of an operating system that was made for retards, but useless by itself; it can only appear to have a function in the context of the user not knowing how their OS works. The Windows 7 GUI is normally used in combination with the Vista operating system; the whole system is basically Windows Vista with shinier buttons added. All the so called "Windows 7" users are really users of Windows Vista SP3.RichardStallman
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mojave-experiment/#
and that link is supposed to prove what exactly? that you have no idea what you are talking about? OK! proven. moving on.Hmm, if thats the case i will keep waving my xp flag for years to come till games dont support xp or MS comes up with something better.Win 7 is somewhat slower than Vista in most games but the difference will naturally vanish as drivers get optimized and games get developped with Win 7 in mind.
Gog
[QUOTE="Gog"]Hmm, if thats the case i will keep waving my xp flag for years to come till games dont support xp or MS comes up with something better. that is a lie.... Win7 has much faster framerates in games thanks to the OS using less system resources.... these people have no idea what they are talking about.Win 7 is somewhat slower than Vista in most games but the difference will naturally vanish as drivers get optimized and games get developped with Win 7 in mind.
dakan45
I've been using vista for about 3 years now and I really haven't had problems with it at all. Yes there are annoyances such as the user account control, which can easily be disabled. I have vista on 2 systems, my older one which is only 32bit (also it only had a gig of Ram on vista for quite a while and ran FINE!) My newer gaming rig has ultimate 64bit which obviously runs like a pro. I had more problems with XP than I did vista in my experiences between the two.
I haven't used Win7 yet. Like others are saying I will probably do a clean install of Win7 once I do a complete upgrade to my gaming rig with the mobo, cpu, memory etc...Which probably won't be for another year or two. Since vista is running fine for me I don't see the point in upgrading for a while.
currently in extreme gaming, Vista x64 still has the upperhand over Windows 7. at 2560x1600, Windows 7 could run Crysis at playable frame rate all maxed without AA, yet Vista x64 can manage 2 to 4x AA. Jericho Vista x64 can handle highest 8x AA while Windows still can only do 4x. (with the exact same i7 920/12G ram/GTX280 rig).
other than this, hands down Windows 7, previous system unstability of vista (especially networking) and sundry of application issue (the popular media player not starting) have been fixed, and so more stable and overall help running games.
with future drivers and Service pack, the extreme gaming should also be in Windows 7's pocket.
so because YOUR system works fine, noone else should upgrade? or were you just tell us that you dont need to? on topic: windows 7 seems buch better in almost all aspects (use of resources, interface, things like that). with games and drivers being tailored towards it, it should be the better OS. people are saying it's not worth it, i dont know, it just depends on each person and what's it worth to THEM. the reason why sometimes it may seem like "Vista SP3" (someone else's words, not mine) is because if they completely changed it, it would lose its backwards compaitibility, with the trade-off that a lot of people would get something to complain about. i'd rather have the backward compatibility, tbhNot worth it. My system runs vista fine; there is no need to upgrade yet.
akburst510
From a pro viewpoint, Iwould upragde if:
You are buying a PC in the next few months and get a free upgrade to windows 7
You are still using Windows XP on your main rig (my previous situation)
You are upgrading your rig to usenew components, e.g. DX 11 or
You really areunhappy with Vista and you have the cash to upgrade to Win7
In all other situations I would stick with Vista, e.g. if you are happy with your rig setup and don't think anything else can be improved.
[QUOTE="Gog"]Hmm, if thats the case i will keep waving my xp flag for years to come till games dont support xp or MS comes up with something better. It's more a matter of the OS not being out and drivers not being optimized. Not even XP was great when first released.Win 7 is somewhat slower than Vista in most games but the difference will naturally vanish as drivers get optimized and games get developped with Win 7 in mind.
dakan45
[QUOTE="akburst510"]so because YOUR system works fine, noone else should upgrade? or were you just tell us that you dont need to? on topic: windows 7 seems buch better in almost all aspects (use of resources, interface, things like that). with games and drivers being tailored towards it, it should be the better OS. people are saying it's not worth it, i dont know, it just depends on each person and what's it worth to THEM. the reason why sometimes it may seem like "Vista SP3" (someone else's words, not mine) is because if they completely changed it, it would lose its backwards compaitibility, with the trade-off that a lot of people would get something to complain about. i'd rather have the backward compatibility, tbh It's not worth it to me, because my Vista set up is working, so I don't see a real need to upgrade. Not to mention I have several apps and games installed, and I don't really feel like re-installing all of that. I'm currently using about 300gb out of my 500gb hard drive. I'll probably just wait until I get a new comp. At the very least, I'm waiting for service pack 1.Not worth it. My system runs vista fine; there is no need to upgrade yet.
Kh1ndjal
[QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"][QUOTE="akburst510"]so because YOUR system works fine, noone else should upgrade? or were you just tell us that you dont need to? on topic: windows 7 seems buch better in almost all aspects (use of resources, interface, things like that). with games and drivers being tailored towards it, it should be the better OS. people are saying it's not worth it, i dont know, it just depends on each person and what's it worth to THEM. the reason why sometimes it may seem like "Vista SP3" (someone else's words, not mine) is because if they completely changed it, it would lose its backwards compaitibility, with the trade-off that a lot of people would get something to complain about. i'd rather have the backward compatibility, tbh It's not worth it to me, because my Vista set up is working, so I don't see a real need to upgrade. Not to mention I have several apps and games installed, and I don't really feel like re-installing all of that. I'm currently using about 300gb out of my 500gb hard drive. I'll probably just wait until I get a new comp. At the very least, I'm waiting for service pack 1. understandable. i dont know if and when i will get it. while it may not boost my gaming machine's capabilities it will increase productivity on my touchscreen notebook. windows 7 is several steps above vista in the touchscreen usability department, ofcourse thats no use to gamers. i'll just have to see.Not worth it. My system runs vista fine; there is no need to upgrade yet.
zomglolcats
[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]it's been mentioned several times on this forum and the rest of the interwebs that dx11 will be available for vista. This is the first time I'm hearing about this. So when I buy my DX11 card next spring, I don't have to buy Windows 7. Are you sure about this?Gamers need Windows 7 for DX11 don't they?
Kh1ndjal
[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]no. vista is gonna have it too. Okay, this is good news - because for me, personally, VISTA 64 has been the best OS I've ever used. Maybe it's because my computer is only eight months old? Anyhow, I now have over 30 titles installed, and during the eight months I've had this PC I've experienced one crash to desktop in Fallout 3.Gamers need Windows 7 for DX11 don't they?
rock_solid
[QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"][QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]it's been mentioned several times on this forum and the rest of the interwebs that dx11 will be available for vista. This is the first time I'm hearing about this. So when I buy my DX11 card next spring, I don't have to buy Windows 7. Are you sure about this? Unless MS goes back on what they said, Vista is going to have DX11. Makes sense since W7 is Vista 3.0 more more less, same driver model, etc. Very little effort to put DX11 in Vista, not like putting DX10 into XP.Gamers need Windows 7 for DX11 don't they?
Charles_Dickens
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