Windows 8 RTM to Hit in July 2011.

Late last year a roadmap shown at PDC 2009 revealed Windows 8 would see a "~2012" release. While that little tilde before 2012 had us believing it would be more like the first half of 2013 and Microsoft was just affording itself some wiggle-room, it looks like we'll see the OS sooner than 2012.

A former Microsoft employee by the name of Chris Green recently posted a visual graph detailing Microsoft's product lifecycle index. As msftkitchen points out, this graph contains an awful lot of information that can already be found from Microsoft's Support Lifecycle Index. However, Green has mentioned some things that aren't listed on the MS Lifecycle Index; namely dates for Windows 8, Windows 8 Server and Office 15.

Green's graph have Windows 8 RTM down for July 1, 2011, with mainstream support from July 1, 2011 to July 1, 2016 and extended support from 2016 to July, 2021.

Office 15 is pegged for a July 2, 2012 RTM; mainstream support from 2012 to June 30, 2017 and extended support from July 3, 2017 to July 5, 2022.

Green hasMicrosoft Server 8 down for the same dates. So that's a July 2, 2012 RTM with mainstream support from 2012 to June 30, 2017 and extended support from July 3, 2017 to July 5, 2022.

Green left Microsoft on January 12, at least, that's when he blogged about his leaving Microsoft. However, the update that has everyone talking was posted on December 9, presumably while he was still a Redmond employee.

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-8-RTM-Release-Date,9527.html

I am willing to bet the vast majority of people are extremely happy with WinXP SP3 :P

And here we thought Vista was the new Windows ME...

meh....sounds good and all but once i get in-7 it's stayin on for a while.

meh....sounds good and all but once i get in-7 it's stayin on for a while.

Neo_revolution7

If WinXP lasted me until 2009, Win7 will have to last until 2014 at least...

[QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

meh....sounds good and all but once i get in-7 it's stayin on for a while.

jcohenx

I think they are doing this on purpose because they don't want another thing like we have now with Windows XP still being out there and they are trying to move people up and away from it but are receiving backlash. From a business stand point this would make sense so they don't have to keep supporting legacy software and focus on the newer stuff, but from a consumer viewpoint just looks like they are wanting to take your money and murder kittens. xXDrPainXx

Yea but either way you look at it Win-7 is going to be doing very well and on top of that ultimate is pretty expensve being at 300 bucks, i don't think win-8 is going to do well even if it does come out i know some people will buy it but most of us are going to stay with win-7.

Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? (Ignoring Windows NT)polarwrath11

Lol, XP's success and 7's success is not the same success, but hey at least it didnt get hated on unlike vista.

Win8 RC, COME hurry!! my Win7 RC is expiring I think.. back to saddd vista again until then :)

[QUOTE="xXDrPainXx"]I think they are doing this on purpose because they don't want another thing like we have now with Windows XP still being out there and they are trying to move people up and away from it but are receiving backlash. From a business stand point this would make sense so they don't have to keep supporting legacy software and focus on the newer stuff, but from a consumer viewpoint just looks like they are wanting to take your money and murder kittens. Neo_revolution7

Yea but either way you look at it Win-7 is going to be doing very well and on top of that ultimate is pretty expensve being at 300 bucks, i don't think win-8 is going to do well even if it does come out i know some people will buy it but most of us are going to stay with win-7.

No, they go by a 5-11 year OS life-cycle before they release ANYTHING so I doubt it.

[QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

[QUOTE="xXDrPainXx"]I think they are doing this on purpose because they don't want another thing like we have now with Windows XP still being out there and they are trying to move people up and away from it but are receiving backlash. From a business stand point this would make sense so they don't have to keep supporting legacy software and focus on the newer stuff, but from a consumer viewpoint just looks like they are wanting to take your money and murder kittens. xXDrPainXx

Yea but either way you look at it Win-7 is going to be doing very well and on top of that ultimate is pretty expensve being at 300 bucks, i don't think win-8 is going to do well even if it does come out i know some people will buy it but most of us are going to stay with win-7.

very understandable but you have to understand companies will be able to force the majority to buy new products but people like u and me will not do it being that percentage that used xp even through vista, hell eve i was using xp but soon enough i only changed over to vista just because i wanted to try it :)

Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? (Ignoring Windows NT)polarwrath11

Youre also forgetting Windows 95 - success!

[QUOTE="polarwrath11"]Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? So it seems when they bring about a new styled Windows its a fail but when its refreshed and slightly improved it a success...interesting! (Ignoring Windows NT)Daytona_178

Considering there isn't that large of a difference between windows 7 and Vista, I don't understand why people think Vista sucks. On release it had a few issues, but pretty much all of those issues have been resolved.Luminouslight

[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]Considering there isn't that large of a difference between windows 7 and Vista, I don't understand why people think Vista sucks. On release it had a few issues, but pretty much all of those issues have been resolved.04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Luminouslight"]Considering there isn't that large of a difference between windows 7 and Vista, I don't understand why people think Vista sucks. On release it had a few issues, but pretty much all of those issues have been resolved.Luminouslight

Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? (Ignoring Windows NT)polarwrath11

• Win 98 - success
• Win 2000 - fail
• Win xp - success
• People putting Win vista on celeron and sempron chips with 512mb RAM and complaining its slow - fail
• Win 7 - success
• Win 8 - fail?

*Fixed

They can release whatever they want. Most of the world is still on XP and will be for a long time.

I have no plans to upgrade my OS "vista home premium 64 bit" untill its absoultly required. im as happy as can be with it.

Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? (Ignoring Windows NT)polarwrath11

Here, let me Fix.

Win 95..pretty much success

Win98-Fail

Win98 SE- Success

Win ME-Failish

WinXp-Epic Success

Vista-Fail

Win7-Looking good so far

Win8- Really? We just got 7, don't tell us you've got a replacement for the replacement for Vista

I find it interesting how so many people refer to XP as such a success. It has to be one of the biggest flops from MS. The only reason it was around so long is that it took years for MS to fix it. IT had better be decent, hell they only had 8 years to get it right.

If XP was not such a flop it's replacement would have been out much, much sooner.

If you compare Vista/Win7 to XP based on the time after release XP is WAY behind in every category.

[QUOTE="polarwrath11"]Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? So it seems when they bring about a new styled Windows its a fail but when its refreshed and slightly improved it a success...interesting! (Ignoring Windows NT)JigglyWiggly_

I find it interesting how so many people refer to XP as such a success. It has to be one of the biggest flops from MS. The only reason it was around so long is that it took years for MS to fix it. IT had better be decent, hell they only had 8 years to get it right.

If XP was not such a flop it's replacement would have been out much, much soon

If you compare Vista/Win7 to XP based on the time after release XP is WAY behind in every category.

opamando

Um....what? Windows Xp merged the NT and Windows 9x users into one cohesive group, as well as changing some architecture of the OS to make it more stable. It's been around for so long becuase people like it and it works! It ran pretty well on slow machines and kept getting better over time.

Sure xp is way behind on some thing when you compare it to Windows 7 and Vista...but that is like saying Windows 3 was behind Windows 95 and 98...of course it was!

[QUOTE="opamando"]

I find it interesting how so many people refer to XP as such a success. It has to be one of the biggest flops from MS. The only reason it was around so long is that it took years for MS to fix it. IT had better be decent, hell they only had 8 years to get it right.

If XP was not such a flop it's replacement would have been out much, much soon

If you compare Vista/Win7 to XP based on the time after release XP is WAY behind in every category.

Sparticus247

Um....what? Windows Xp merged the NT and Windows 9x users into one cohesive group, as well as changing some architecture of the OS to make it more stable. It's been around for so long becuase people like it and it works! It ran pretty well on slow machines and kept getting better over time.

Sure xp is way behind on some thing when you compare it to Windows 7 and Vista...but that is like saying Windows 3 was behind Windows 95 and 98...of course it was!

I find it interesting how so many people refer to XP as such a success. It has to be one of the biggest flops from MS. The only reason it was around so long is that it took years for MS to fix it. IT had better be decent, hell they only had 8 years to get it right.opamando

This is a joke right? XP is the best, most successful operating system in the history of operating systems. It's a little rough around the edges and has some security problems, but it works really well for what most people do with their PCs. People continue to use it after all these years because it works so well for what they do that they've seen no reason to upgrade.

[QUOTE="Sparticus247"]

[QUOTE="opamando"]

I find it interesting how so many people refer to XP as such a success. It has to be one of the biggest flops from MS. The only reason it was around so long is that it took years for MS to fix it. IT had better be decent, hell they only had 8 years to get it right.

Sure

If XP was not such a flop it's replacement would have been out much, much soon

If you compare Vista/Win7 to XP based on the time after release XP is WAY behind in every category.

opamando

Um....what? Windows Xp merged the NT and Windows 9x users into one cohesive group, as well as changing some architecture of the OS to make it more stable. It's been around for so long becuase people like it and it works! It ran pretty well on slow machines and kept getting better over time.

Sure xp is way behind on some thing when you compare it to Windows 7 and Vista...but that is like saying Windows 3 was behind Windows 95 and 98...of course it was!

Sure did and still do from time to time in my VM environments. I ran windows 95 and 98 on our home computers until December in 2001. To this day I had more system lockups and crashes in my 9x environments than I did in XP. I would still be using it if I wasn't part of the MSDN-AA and could get my hands on the latest OSs for free. Theres no point in not trying it for that. I will say Xp-64 was garbage as well as my first year with the 64 bit Vista, but that was mostly due to lack of support for 64bit OSs.

[QUOTE="opamando"]

I find it interesting how so many people refer to XP as such a success. It has to be one of the biggest flops from MS. The only reason it was around so long is that it took years for MS to fix it. IT had better be decent, hell they only had 8 years to get it right.

If XP was not such a flop it's replacement would have been out much, much soon

If you compare Vista/Win7 to XP based on the time after release XP is WAY behind in every category.

Sparticus247

Um....what? Windows Xp merged the NT and Windows 9x users into one cohesive group, as well as changing some architecture of the OS to make it more stable. It's been around for so long becuase people like it and it works! It ran pretty well on slow machines and kept getting better over time.

Sure xp is way behind on some thing when you compare it to Windows 7 and Vista...but that is like saying Windows 3 was behind Windows 95 and 98...of course it was!

[QUOTE="Sparticus247"]

[QUOTE="opamando"]

I find it interesting how so many people refer to XP as such a success. It has to be one of the biggest flops from MS. The only reason it was around so long is that it took years for MS to fix it. IT had better be decent, hell they only had 8 years to get it right.

If XP was not such a flop it's replacement would have been out much, much soon

If you compare Vista/Win7 to XP based on the time after release XP is WAY behind in every category.

JigglyWiggly_

Um....what? Windows Xp merged the NT and Windows 9x users into one cohesive group, as well as changing some architecture of the OS to make it more stable. It's been around for so long becuase people like it and it works! It ran pretty well on slow machines and kept getting better over time.

Sure xp is way behind on some thing when you compare it to Windows 7 and Vista...but that is like saying Windows 3 was behind Windows 95 and 98...of course it was!

haha, ok yeah you got me there:P I meant more for the masses

Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? (Ignoring Windows NT)polarwrath11

haha, this is so true

Win 7 comes out in 2009, Win 8 comes in 2011? so Win 9 comes in 2013 and Win 10 comes in 2015?

well, im gonna use my brand new Win 7 until 2015 and move on to Win 10 in 2015.

[QUOTE="polarwrath11"]Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? (Ignoring Windows NT)chapman86

haha, this is so true

[QUOTE="chapman86"]

[QUOTE="polarwrath11"]Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? (Ignoring Windows NT)JigglyWiggly_

haha, this is so true

I agree... I currently run it on 3 of my machines, 1 being a server. I have never had too many issues with it, however it lacks in the area of networking. But then again if you need a machine for networking, why not just use linux??

If some ass was one your network (me), Windows 2000 is vulnerable to the ms09-048 vulnerability... I could remote execute a bunch of fun stuff. JigglyWiggly_

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/ms09-048.mspx

Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? (Ignoring Windows NT)polarwrath11

Your list is incorrect:

Win 3.0 + 3.1 = Sucess

Win 95 = Success in sales (Failed in stability)

Win 98 = Success

Win 2000 = Sucess (Better than 95 & 98 by far)

Win ME = Epic Fail (You forgot this)

Win XP = Success

Win Vista = Fail

Win 7 = Sucess

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="polarwrath11"]Win 98 - success Win 2000 - fail Win xp - success Win vista - fail Win 7 - success Win 8 - fail? So it seems when they bring about a new styled Windows its a fail but when its refreshed and slightly improved it a success...interesting! (Ignoring Windows NT)JigglyWiggly_