Which is preferable PC experience IYO?
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skyrim is like playing a broken game
if ur happy with that go all for it
and by broken i mean everything you do in this game is totally seperate from another thing
bethesda lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeLU3y3WHDc&feature=my_favorites&list=FLUTVRxG9CkcFb_ITr8Q6G3w
tw2 is polished nicely
See thats the thing, Witcher 2 had much more meaningful choices then anything coming close to what Skyrim offered.. Bit of a paradox.Hard to compare the two really. Ones a linear story, the other is an open sandbox. I preferred Skyrim personally...TW2 bored me
wis3boi
Witcher 2 is ten times better than Skyrim unless you like wandering around a boring-ass landscape with boring characters and balancing so ridiculously bad that you will eventually encounter bandits harder to kill than giants.
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Skyrim imo. Reasons being..
1. Sandbox type RPG (you're allowed to free roam) Witcher 2 is linear.
2. More in depth character skill system. You have full control on the type of character you'd like to make.
3. Mods, there's thousands of them, some of which even make Skyrim look graphically better than TW2.
Witcher 2 is a decent game but also for a niche audience. I believe the game is made for kids who want to feel grown up by playing a "adult" game. For entertainment purposes though, unless you get a kick out of a RPG attempting to take itself very (very) seriously then there's nothing there that's that entertaining. Gameplay is average at best, combat is average. Exploration is linear with slight opportunities to go left or right but never open ended. Character building system isn't that good and the skill trees in the game aren't that entertaining to unlock. NPCs are realistic but also they're dull. Story as I said before is for people wanting a adult video-game with politics, granted in terms of quality it's better than Skyrim's main quest story and most of the side quests but Skyrim still has much more charm.
I fail to see how skyrim has more charm when they reuse so many voices. Important characters shouldn't have a recycled voice, it's stupid. Skyrim's character literally have 0 personality. I also love how you take a jab at people who like a good story in their games by calling them"kids." Really? You are really stooping to insults to get your opinion across?Skyrim imo. Reasons being..
1. Sandbox type RPG (you're allowed to free roam) Witcher 2 is linear.
2. More in depth character skill system. You have full control on the type of character you'd like to make.
3. Mods, there's thousands of them, some of which even make Skyrim look graphically better than TW2.
Witcher 2 is a decent game but also for a niche audience. I believe the game is made for kids who want to feel grown up by playing a "adult" game. For entertainment purposes though, unless you get a kick out of a RPG attempting to take itself very (very) seriously then there's nothing there that's that entertaining. Gameplay is average at best, combat is average. Exploration is linear with slight opportunities to go left or right but never open ended. Character building system isn't that good and the skill trees in the game aren't that entertaining to unlock. NPCs are realistic but also they're dull. Story as I said before is for people wanting a adult video-game with politics, granted in terms of quality it's better than Skyrim's main quest story and most of the side quests but Skyrim still has much more charm.
ShimmerMan
I didn't try out any Skyrim mods, but the regular game never really got under my skin, and I gave up on it before finishing it. I'd rather replay FO3 and FNV 10x each (I actually might do that :D ).
TBH, Witcher 2 bored me to hell while Skyrim was everything I was hoping for the game to be and even more.
The only downside in Skyrim for me was that the game had to come to an end (it took me 200+ hours) and that at some point I was incredibly overpowered even on max dificulty lvl :S
I'm hoping for some good 30+ hours DLC, now add Diablo 3, AC3, Borderlands 2 and Darksiders 2 in the mix and I'm done for the year :D
Skyrim by far...it is the best game out there...i think Skyrim qualify for top 5 best games ever....ofc there are snobs that will faint when will hear this but hey! this is my opinion...and it may be subjective.
But if we are talking in the factual registry...
Skyrim is longer than Witcher 2
Skyrim has better combat and it is more diverse(you can fight with bows,spells,melee weapons)
Skyrim offers you a range of mind-blowing things to do(sneaking,stealing,player houses etc...)
Skyrim is more immersive and atmospheric due to its landscape,locations...
Skyrim has a mind-blowing variety/amount of armor/weapons to collect/craft...
The Witcher 2 has better graphics...thats the only thing that TW2 does better than Skyrim...
Now Skyrim has mods...which adds...new quests,new landscape,new lore... more weapons and armors,new player houses, new graphical improvements...new spells,new characters...etc...
Now we can compare the story in both games...but thats just personal preference...for me the first Witcher had better story and was more immersive than TW2...
The problem is GS is full of kids, and as I said earlier on.. Kids have a distinct liking for The Witcher 2 because playing a game with adult content makes them feel grown up. The tuth is though in terms of quality Rhazzy hit the nail on the head. Skyrim is just overall a much better quality product with much more value, check metacritic and it will tell the same story. Anyone who recommends TW2 over Skyrim is only looking to waste someones elses money.
You really are pathetic.The problem is GS is full of kids, and as I said earlier on.. Kids have a distinct liking for The Witcher 2 because playing a game with adult content makes them feel grown up. The tuth is though in terms of quality Rhazzy hit the nail on the head. Skyrim is just overall a much better quality product with much more value, check metacritic and it will tell the same story. Anyone who recommends TW2 over Skyrim is only looking to waste someones elses money.
ShimmerMan
I can't choose one game over the other. They are both excellent games in their own right, and I enjoyed playing the both of them.
[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]You really are pathetic. You're proving my point perfectly, well done. You sound like a perplexed angry youth who just hear'd the truth but doesn't want to face it. Everyone just needs to face the facts that Skyrim is the better game...The problem is GS is full of kids, and as I said earlier on.. Kids have a distinct liking for The Witcher 2 because playing a game with adult content makes them feel grown up. The tuth is though in terms of quality Rhazzy hit the nail on the head. Skyrim is just overall a much better quality product with much more value, check metacritic and it will tell the same story. Anyone who recommends TW2 over Skyrim is only looking to waste someones elses money.
Toxic-Seahorse
Metacritic: SKYRIM 94% TW2 88%
You really are pathetic. You're proving my point perfectly, well done. You sound like a perplexed angry youth who just hear'd the truth but doesn't want to face it. Everyone just needs to face the facts that Skyrim is the better game...[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]
The problem is GS is full of kids, and as I said earlier on.. Kids have a distinct liking for The Witcher 2 because playing a game with adult content makes them feel grown up. The tuth is though in terms of quality Rhazzy hit the nail on the head. Skyrim is just overall a much better quality product with much more value, check metacritic and it will tell the same story. Anyone who recommends TW2 over Skyrim is only looking to waste someones elses money.
ShimmerMan
Metacritic: SKYRIM 94% TW2 88%
My opinion>random reviewers. TW2 had a much better story, characters, combat and rpg elements.
Someone may have the opinion that a vauxhall rover is better than a ferrari 458 spider because the vauxhall lesses petrol. But the fact is the Ferrari is still the better product. The same rule holds true in this comparison.
Skyrim = higher metacritic. Higher mod capabilities, more content, better gameplay. It's the superior game.
Someone may have the opinion that a vauxhall rover is better than a ferrari 458 spider because the vauxhall lesses petrol. But the fact is the Ferrari is still the better product. The same rule holds true in this comparison.
Skyrim = higher metacritic. Higher mod capabilities, more content, better gameplay. It's the superior game.
ShimmerMan
Games and cars are totally different. How much you LIKE a game is YOUR opinion. Cars on the other hand all have things similar to each other.
The problem is GS is full of kids, and as I said earlier on.. Kids have a distinct liking for The Witcher 2 because playing a game with adult content makes them feel grown up. The tuth is though in terms of quality Rhazzy hit the nail on the head. Skyrim is just overall a much better quality product with much more value, check metacritic and it will tell the same story. Anyone who recommends TW2 over Skyrim is only looking to waste someones elses money.
ShimmerMan
Unfortunately your assertion is quite correct.
Games and cars are totally different. How much you LIKE a game is YOUR opinion. Cars on the other hand all have things similar to each other.
Cloud567kar
Opinion also matters with cars. If it was all about specs car ethusiasts would not be having a similar conversation like this.
[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]
Games and cars are totally different. How much you LIKE a game is YOUR opinion. Cars on the other hand all have things similar to each other.
Pedro
Opinion also matters with cars. If it was all about specs car ethusiasts would not be having a similar conversation like this.
Yes but my point is that TW2 and skyrim arent even the same games so how can you compare them. Why would I take some reviewers opinion over mine when ive put in 50+ hours on both games?
As far as a "PC experience goes" I would advise Skyrim as your choice. With the Witcher 2, you can't mod unless you're on one of the first patches, even then there is only a handful of mods you can choose from, and none of them are worth having especially with the poor preformance you get from that patch. Sure, it has good graphics, good story, and good gameplay
But so does Skyrim, and it does while really providing a TRUE PC experience. There are tons and tons of mods to increase the games value endlessly, the movement is more fluid through the open world than it is in the Witcher 2, you'll find yourslef in the Witcher 2 not being cable to go through certain paths as to where Skyrim, where you want to go is wherever your mind can take you.
Skyrim > The Witcher 2 hands down. There are even mods which make it just as beautiful graphically. Texture mods of course, then you'll definitely want "Sharpshooters Extreme Graphic Vision ENB" Voila, your game now looks just as good, or better than the Witcher 2.
Witcher 2:
Story is much more advanced and multifaceted - same goes for the combat and rpg mechanics (very rich) - it's just an incredibly deep game that you get alot out of in all aspects of what it tries to accomplish - with tons of free additional content for the game from the developers.
Skyrim:
Boring combat and story - zero reason to care about anything that happens in what essentially isn't an rpg - but rather an rpg simulator that tries (not hard) to make you think that such is the case. In reality though its just another 100+ hour yawn-fest from Bethdesa - and is vastly over-rated. No amount of mods is going to change how boring the game is overall.
I got a lot more enjoyment out of The Witcher 2. Skyrim's world just didn't grab me, and thats its only real strength. Bad story, shallow characters and a lot of bugs (I encountered way more bugs in Skyrim than in New Vegas funnily enough).
The Witcher 2 had much better characters, much better choice/consequence elements, a much better story, and better combat (although spamming Quen makes it kinda boring). The world also felt 'lived in' while Skyrim felt kinda dead and artificial.
I actually enjoyed Risen 2 more than Skyrim. Its world was at least worth exploring...
I guess the arctic/tundra landscape might have been more novel for someone who isn't Canadian though.
My opinion>random reviewers. TW2 had a much better story, characters, combat and rpg elements.
Cloud567kar
That is 100% true...and that is the way i see things too...i dont not pick my games based on reviews...BUT...there is abig BUT...If those reviews contain facts and you still prefer a product over another,even if that product has been proven to be inferior "ur opinion = bad taste"...
Skyrim sucked me in a lot more and I had more fun with it. Is that okay to say, or should I list flaws and say that the witcher 2 is better like the cool kids?
Witcher 2:
Story is much more advanced and multifaceted - same goes for the combat and rpg mechanics (very rich) - it's just an incredibly deep game that you get alot out of in all aspects of what it tries to accomplish - with tons of free additional content for the game from the developers.
Skyrim:
Boring combat and story - zero reason to care about anything that happens in what essentially isn't an rpg - but rather an rpg simulator that tries (not hard) to make you think that such is the case. In reality though its just another 100+ hour yawn-fest from Bethdesa - and is vastly over-rated. No amount of mods is going to change how boring the game is overall.
darktruth007
You have no idea about what u are talking about and you make a fool out of anyone who likes TW2...You bring a disservice to TW2 with ur comment
[QUOTE="darktruth007"]
Witcher 2:
Story is much more advanced and multifaceted - same goes for the combat and rpg mechanics (very rich) - it's just an incredibly deep game that you get alot out of in all aspects of what it tries to accomplish - with tons of free additional content for the game from the developers.
Skyrim:
Boring combat and story - zero reason to care about anything that happens in what essentially isn't an rpg - but rather an rpg simulator that tries (not hard) to make you think that such is the case. In reality though its just another 100+ hour yawn-fest from Bethdesa - and is vastly over-rated. No amount of mods is going to change how boring the game is overall.
rhazzy
You have no idea about what u are talking about and you make a fool out of anyone who likes TW2...You bring a disservice to TW2 with ur comment
Idk about the Witcher 2, but Skyrim's 'story' aspects (writing/characters/story/dialogs) and combat are def crap. And I agree with the guy that said it was more of a sim type game.I vote Witcher 2 - Skyrim was good but I got bored of it real fast, the dragon novelty kinda wears off after you've killed your 50th one.
I also actually cared about the characters in Witcher 2, whereas in Skyrim I didn't give a damn if they died or not.
Anybody using combat as a positive for Skyrim cannot be taken seriously.
bussinrounds
I didn't find anything wrong with Skyrim's combat. And, particularly after spicing it up with a combat mod and a killmove mod, it's actually very fast and brutal and satisfying. I haven't played TW2, so I don't know what that combat is like, Skyrim's is perfectly fine.
[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]
Anybody using combat as a positive for Skyrim cannot be taken seriously.
the_bi99man
I didn't find anything wrong with Skyrim's combat. And, particularly after spicing it up with a combat mod and a killmove mod, it's actually very fast and brutal and satisfying. I haven't played TW2, so I don't know what that combat is like, Skyrim's is perfectly fine.
It's so weightless and the hit reaction is laughable. It doesn't feel right at all. Especially after playing games with decent combat like Dark Souls, for instance. Can't comment about the Witcher 2's combat since I haven't played it yet.[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]
[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]
Anybody using combat as a positive for Skyrim cannot be taken seriously.
bussinrounds
I didn't find anything wrong with Skyrim's combat. And, particularly after spicing it up with a combat mod and a killmove mod, it's actually very fast and brutal and satisfying. I haven't played TW2, so I don't know what that combat is like, Skyrim's is perfectly fine.
It's so weightless and the hit reaction is laughable.That's what can be fixed with mods. Either the "Deadly Combat" or "Duel - Combat Realism" mods make huge changes to hit reaction, and power attacks, and blocking, and stamina management. Gives the whole system a lot more depth, yet still feels so natural that after playing for a few hours with Deadly Combat, I forgot what the vanilla combat was like.
It's so weightless and the hit reaction is laughable.[QUOTE="bussinrounds"]
[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]
I didn't find anything wrong with Skyrim's combat. And, particularly after spicing it up with a combat mod and a killmove mod, it's actually very fast and brutal and satisfying. I haven't played TW2, so I don't know what that combat is like, Skyrim's is perfectly fine.
the_bi99man
That's what can be fixed with mods. Either the "Deadly Combat" or "Duel - Combat Realism" mods make huge changes to hit reaction, and power attacks, and blocking, and stamina management. Gives the whole system a lot more depth, yet still feels so natural that after playing for a few hours with Deadly Combat, I forgot what the vanilla combat was like.
I know ppl used to claim mods 'fixed' Oblivions combat. (which was bs) Maybe it helped a little, but it needed alot more than a little help, imo.Idk about Skyrim's combat mods. I am skeptical though, as there's gotta be only so much you can do with the engine. Anybody else care to chime in about the combat mods for Skryim ?
Says the user with a Witcher profile image.Witcher 2, the story is one of the best we have seen
James161324
[QUOTE="James161324"]Says the user with a Witcher profile image. And that means what? What kind of stupid statement are you going to make this time? If he liked the game, why shouldn't he have a Witcher avatar? Does that automatically make his opinion invalid?Witcher 2, the story is one of the best we have seen
ShimmerMan
The Witcher 2 definitely gets my vote.
Skyrim failed to be outstanding in any way whatsoever. Seriously. Compared to many other RPGs over the years, it didn't offer the largest or most diverse world; it didn't offer the most player freedom; it didn't offer rich or rewarding gameplay mechanics; it isn't the best looking RPG out there; it didn't offer the most entertaining questlines; the combat isn't particularly impressive...the list goes on.
It *was* entertaining for a while (and for that matter, I would recommend it to people at a discounted price), but it offered nothing we hadn't seen before in other games, and it was bogged down by a staggering number of poor design choices, weak writing, endless bugs and instabilities. I can safely say that I couldn't go half and hour without encountering at least one immersion-shattering bug, and given that I put 100 hours into the game...by the time I gave up on it I was having much more fun exploiting the game than I was actually playing it.
As for The Witcher 2, it wasn't perfect - I think I might have actually preferred the original game - but it was outstanding in its own way.
I can't think of too many RPGs that were that ambitious with their roleplaying choices and consequences, and yet managed to realise that ambition with such high quality storytelling and production values. If it isn't an all-time classic, then it's certainly one of the best RPGs of the past decade.
It might be strange to say, but I also believe that in TW2, I honestly felt that I was able to make Geralt's story my own to a far greater degree than anything Bethesda have ever done.
The ability to define Geralt's motivations, for characters to question those motivations, and for the story and gameplay scenarios to shift and resolve themselves depending on those motivations, is one of TW2's greatest achievements...and it's something that you just don't get in an open-world game like Skyrim, where your choices never feel like they matter, and your character's motivations (as you define them in your own imagination) never significantly impact the gameplay or story.
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